(american mcgee's) alice:madness returns

edited August 2010 in General Chat
anyone else psyched for alice: madness returns?? the first game (american mcgee's alice) was one of my favorites because of the incredibly deep psychological storyline and the amazing imagery...

incase you havn't heard EA held a showcase for 6 new games and american mcgee officially announed Alice: madness returns, showed sme screenshots, and showed a short teaser

(warning: teaser might be disturbing for some people) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhBRSfCkDxY

all i can say is WOO-HOO

Comments

  • edited July 2010
    "Disturbing for some people"? What kind of pansies are you referring to?
  • edited July 2010
    ikr...
  • edited July 2010
    Didn't play the first one.. don't plan on playing this one either.
  • edited July 2010
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  • edited July 2010
    Is Alice poor mans Tim Burton stuff for adults, or is it actually good?
  • edited July 2010
    it's REALLY good... the original game was about alices adventures in a warped nightmarish wonderland after her parents die in a fire and she is found in a catatonic state... the game was originally packaged with a doctors casebook that detailed her recovery in real life in comparison to what was going on in the game. throughout the game the various bosses and enemies represent mental hurdles and such and everytime she overcomes a challange it is paralled by her recovery in the casebook...

    the reason i love this game sooo much is not because of how violent or disturbing it got (tim burton has nothing on american mcgee) but that you could get as much or as little of the incredible storyline you wanted depending on how willing you were to delve into the casebook
  • edited July 2010
    It's what Tim Burton's Alice should have been.
  • edited July 2010
    It's what Tim Burton's Alice should have been.

    in a perfect world tim burton's alice would have never been made and the movie version of american mcgee's alice would have been released instead of being cancelled
  • edited July 2010
    The only Tim Burton film I can abide is Pee Wee's Big Adventure. I know i'm in the minority, but between his samey directing, Elfman's music and bloody Johnny Depp i'd rather run my razor over my tounge than sit through one of his flicks.

    Except Pee Wee of course. HAA HAA!
  • edited July 2010
    JedExodus wrote: »
    The only Tim Burton film I can abide is Pee Wee's Big Adventure. I know i'm in the minority, but between his samey directing, Elfman's music and bloody Johnny Depp i'd rather run my razor over my tounge than sit through one of his flicks.

    Except Pee Wee of course. HAA HAA!

    Have you ever seen Ed Wood or Big Fish? Those films are a little less stereotypically Tim Burton-y, but they're some of his better films, I think.

    Aaaanyway, yeah. Having never played Alice myself, I can't really comment all that much, I guess, but it always looked like one of the better attempts at grimdarking a children's story to me. Hopefully with this sequel, the first one will get re-released too on Steam or something so I can give it a shot.
  • edited July 2010
    I like Ed Wood, haven't seen Big Fish, and Mars Attacks! has its good points though I wouldn't see it again. I like Nightmare Before Christmas, but not really for the same reasons anyone else does. Maybe that's just an excuse. Also I love claymation, but that by no means was able to save Corpse Bride from my ire, so I dunno. And I find PeeWee obnoxious.
  • edited July 2010
    Have you ever seen Ed Wood or Big Fish? Those films are a little less stereotypically Tim Burton-y, but they're some of his better films, I think.

    Aaaanyway, yeah. Having never played Alice myself, I can't really comment all that much, I guess, but it always looked like one of the better attempts at grimdarking a children's story to me. Hopefully with this sequel, the first one will get re-released too on Steam or something so I can give it a shot.

    i'm personally wishing for an updated version of american mcgee's alice to be released before alice: madness returns... not gonna happen probibly,but a guy can dream cant he =D
  • edited July 2010
    I still gotta play the first one. It looked so much fun when I was watching my friends play it...
  • edited July 2010
    I loved the original! It was amazing what a beautiful scenery and great atmosphere they were able to create with that one. The gameplay itself was a bit tedious, but Wonderland was lively enough to keep it entertaining. I play games like Tomb Raider and Beyond Good And Evil mainly for atmosphere too, so I had no problem with this one.

    I do think the perverted Wonderland theme is getting rather worn out. The aforementioned Tim Burton film was based on the same principle (and apparently sucked, though I haven't seen it yet) and Disney has also released a game based on the movie... so although I liked the original, I'm not sure if this sequel is going to be inspired enough to do its predecessor justice. But I'll certainly keep my fingers crossed!

    (By the way, little known fact: there was talk of creating a movie based on the game after its success, but that never got made, and probably now never will be, seeing as how Disney did it, and failed horribly.)
  • edited July 2010
    Soultaker wrote: »
    (By the way, little known fact: there was talk of creating a movie based on the game after its success, but that never got made, and probably now never will be, seeing as how Disney did it, and failed horribly.)

    just as well that it was never made... sarah michelle geller was slated to play alice *shudders*
  • edited July 2010
    I like Nightmare Before Christmas, but not really for the same reasons anyone else does. Maybe that's just an excuse. Also I love claymation, but that by no means was able to save Corpse Bride from my ire, so I dunno.

    Incidentally, Nightmare Before Christmas wasn't actually directed by Tim Burton - it was Henry Selick, who went on to direct James and the Giant Peach along with Coraline. Also, neither films were animated in claymation, for none of it was animated in clay or plasticine; the proper term would be 'stop motion.'

    YEEEEEEEEEAAAAAH NITPICKING
  • edited July 2010
    And I find PeeWee obnoxious.

    Rather Dashing confirmed for junkie, still hates his country :p
  • edited August 2010
    I'll be playing this, loved the first one! Hopefully it'll be on a console rather than PC though, always found the controls a bit awkward :s
  • edited August 2010
    I'll be playing this, loved the first one! Hopefully it'll be on a console rather than PC though, always found the controls a bit awkward :s

    it has been confirmed that it will be released for PC, xbox360 and ps3
  • edited August 2010
    Played and loved the first one, so I will defiantly get this one.
  • edited August 2010
    I too very much enjoyed the first one, so I've got an eye on this. I very rarely get excited about things, but this certainly warrants interest.

    And for those who never played the original... do so! It's a great game which is still surprisingly playable today. It was built on the Quake 3 engine, so it still looks fairly good (even if you will need to edit an ini file to get a decent resolution), and the gameplay is wonderfully dark and twisted. Make sure you read the Casebook first, there's a great bit of backstory there that goes way beyond the introductory cutscene. Optional, but highly recommended.
  • edited August 2010
    I'll play this one, but I'm not getting my hopes up. Too much time has passed since the original & McGee's curriculum hasn't been exactly spotless.

    The first one was nothing short of pure genius. Setting things after the two books & adding a potentially mentally crippling disaster made sure the grimness wasn't there just to be "edgy" or to "appeal to today's angsty youth".

    It's also obvious that American did read & more importantly, understood the books, so everything fell into place perfectly.

    And the music... dear Gawd - I'm not a NIN fan, but the work Trent did in that game is astoundingly brilliant. That music is easily 50% of that game.

    The graphics still hold on quite well, surprisingly. Excellent work done there, as well.

    One of the best games I've ever played... not likely to change anytime soon, either.

    Let's see how this turns out.

    Cheers!
  • edited August 2010
    I'll play this one, but I'm not getting my hopes up. Too much time has passed since the original & McGee's curriculum hasn't been exactly spotless.

    The first one was nothing short of pure genius. Setting things after the two books & adding a potentially mentally crippling disaster made sure the grimness wasn't there just to be "edgy" or to "appeal to today's angsty youth".

    It's also obvious that American did read & more importantly, understood the books, so everything fell into place perfectly.

    And the music... dear Gawd - I'm not a NIN fan, but the work Trent did in that game is astoundingly brilliant. That music is easily 50% of that game.

    The graphics still hold on quite well, surprisingly. Excellent work done there, as well.

    One of the best games I've ever played... not likely to change anytime soon, either.

    Let's see how this turns out.

    Cheers!
  • edited August 2010
    Make sure you read the Casebook first, there's a great bit of backstory there that goes way beyond the introductory cutscene. Optional, but highly recommended.

    Thanks for posting that - I didn't even know there was a casebook that came with the game :D
  • edited August 2010
    theres a great article in this months gamepro magazine about alice:madness returns if anyones interested...

    also @ ruby, if you have one of the newer copies of the game it's included digitally... if you have an older edition of the game, the entire casebook is included in one of the faq's on gamefaqs (not sure which one)
  • edited August 2010
    The casebook is included in an FAQ, but the scanned copy was so good, it felt wrong not to link to it.
  • edited August 2010
    ooooohhh didn't notice you linked it...
  • edited August 2010
    I am definitely maybe considering thinking of probably buying this.
  • edited August 2010
    Go for it. It's fun. Just don't pay too much for it.
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