Looks great! I am a fan of TinTin. I own all comic books.
Favs are:
-Secret of the Unicorn & Treasure of Red Rackam (is one big story)
-The seven crystal balls & The temple of the sun (also one story)
-Tintin in Tibet
Aren't all the (or nearly all) comics made into cartoons already? Sorry but this thing smells like those guys are just trying to cash in with someone else's creation...
Aren't all the (or nearly all) comics made into cartoons already? Sorry but this thing smells like those guys are just trying to cash in with someone else's creation...
oh ugg. i hate the polar express style. might as well have real actors.
Actually it's being done with the same motion capture technology used for Avatar, but whatever. The thing is no real actors I can think of could completely capture the characters in Herges world or bring his surreal world to life. The difference between this and Zemeckis' movies is that Zemeckis does this impossible CGI camera work and crap that takes you out of the movie, not to mention nothing he does is tailor made for CGI. Also he never does anything good with it anyway.
Aren't all the (or nearly all) comics made into cartoons already? Sorry but this thing smells like those guys are just trying to cash in with someone else's creation...
Spielberg has been trying to make a live-action Tintin movie since around the time of making the Last Crusade and even got Herge's blessing. Herge even said he considered Spielberg the only man who could do Tintin justice. They never met in person though because Herge died not long before they were scheduled to meet on a film and then it went into production hell. Then Spielberg decided to try again and then asked Jackson and WETA if they would do a CGI Snowy for the live-action film, but Jackson told him live action wouldn't do justice to Herge or the comics, so they got together and decided to do photo-realistic motion-capture. There, now you know how wrong you were.
I fear the visual style may have slipped into the uncanny valley for me.
I loved the television cartoons though. So much so that I'll probably still go see this.
No way to tell about that until we see a trailer BUT this film was shot traditionally as far as the motion capture with traditional camera work, so I honestly doubt you'll be seeing anything remotely close to Zemeckis style directing with this. The picture of Haddock, for instance, looks more and more real each time I look at it.
Also-
How can you look at this image while listening to John Williams famous themes and not imagine something beautiful. Yes, John Williams is scoring this movie. So yes, motion capture has had a bad run with Zemeckis but with Spielberg and Jackson and even EDGAR WRIGHT on the team I'm willing to give it a chance.
How can you look at this image while listening to John Williams famous themes and not imagine something beautiful. Yes, John Williams is scoring this movie. So yes, motion capture has had a bad run with Zemeckis but with Spielberg and Jackson and even EDGAR WRIGHT on the team I'm willing to give it a chance.
I agree. That's a classic Spielberg shot right there. It takes us back to his Jaws-days.
And about the score, I'm excited as hell! According to what I know, the score is completed practically, but they'll do some extra sessions in the future if there any significant cuts to the picture.
Also, Conrad Pope (Williams' orchestrator) has said Tintin's theme is amazing and it's destined to become a classic!
I never bought any soundtrack from Williams. Jaws was great and Star Wars, well, it was Star Wars but i think there exists more interesting film music which a.o. is less overburdened and where the composition is more interesting.
Actually this is the best of the three screens, a.o. because it doesn't show the characters from the front. I don't like the style WETA produces, same with DreamWorks. On the other side i like Pixar's work.
Okay let's examine the uncanny valley effect here and the CGI realism compared to other movies.
Tintin-
Very realistic, especially the lighting. The textures are very well done, especially on clothing. No major uncanny valley effect present as the facial expressions and eyes are very real. The only thing keeping characters from looking like real actors is the surreal cartoonish style. The skeletal structure makes sense.
Avatar-
Just about the same amount of realism as Tintin. No uncanny valley effect; the characters look like real actors.
Lord of the Rings-
No uncanny valley effect, the skin is smooth but that makes sense for the character, the hair is realistic and so is the skeletal structure. Slightly less realistic than Tintin.
Pirates at the Caribbean-
No uncanny valley effect (betcha didn't know Davy Jones and his crew were motion capture and not actors wearing makeup huh!) Perfect textures and perfect lighting.
A Christmas Carol-
The eyes look like plastic, the face looks like plastic, the only realism comes from his wrinkles, he has no pores for being elderly, the hair texture looks fake, the cloth texture looks too smooth, and the facial expression is slightly impossible. Trust me, I tried it myself and it's painful and it makes my nose twitch. Looks NOTHING like Tintin.
The Polar Express-
It looks like a Playstation 2 game! No a Playstation game. It looks terrible. Syberia had better CGI.
I did. It's not "The Polar Express style". The Polar Express doesn't have a style. It would if it could hold up for more than four years but by then it's CGI was already crappy and outdated if not sooner. Avatar has been out since 2009 and looks great (even though I don't care for the movie much itself), and King Kong has been out since 2005 (only a year before King Kong!)and still looks (mostly) great. The first Pirates movie came out in 2003 and the second came out in 2006 and they both still look great as well. Polar Express couldn't survive even as long as one of them.
Wow. That's a big difference for only being a year apart.
There's also massive differences for a year apart in technology. But, also kids movie with a budget VS a big block buster motion picture? Totally going to look just as good.
I meant actors nowadays, although my knowledge of non-British foreign actors is low. That film is from 1964, and even though I haven't seen it, it does look well cast! I opened the clip expecting to roll my eyes but I can't.
I have to eat my words. I was so sure no matter what Herge's characters couldn't be brought to live action without losing his style, but that is just. Wow. The comedic timing and cartoon slapstick is even intact!
If you've only read the comics and are also interested in the backgrounds then i only can repeat myself and recommend watching the documentary from arte about five of his comics, it's very well done and very interesting. You'll see the comics in a different light afterwards.
I hope they'll use the same voices as the cartoon. I just can't imagine Haddock with a different voice.
I'm excited about the movie, because it's a Tintin movie. I don't really care what it looks like, I don't find it repulsive or amazing, I'm more curious about what the story's going to be.
Well, at least the boat scene is from The crab with the golden claws where he also meats Haddock for the first time. I loved Destination Moon. Btw a TinTin adventure, also in the comic look, would have been great.
Oh my, you're right, they're making The Crab with Golden Claws
Haddock's my favourite, so I'm definitely 100% for it being the story he first appears in.
Of course, they could also be making it an amalgam of several of the stories, which would be fine too.
For some reason I thought the movie was going to be an original story.
I'm still sticking by my thoughts on how this looks super ugly. I'm not a huge tintin fan, but something this decorated with esteem has to be given proper treatment. Why don't they actually celebrate the fact that it's one of the world's most beloved comics and use a style resembling and celebrating the original material? Something actually charming?
My gut reaction is that I think I would have preferred it if they just tried to look like the style of the comics, and not bothered with any realism. But it might grow on me.
I'm just happy we're getting Tintin movies at all.
I'm still sticking by my thoughts on how this looks super ugly. I'm not a huge tintin fan, but something this decorated with esteem has to be given proper treatment. Why don't they actually celebrate the fact that it's one of the world's most beloved comics and use a style resembling and celebrating the original material? Something actually charming?
Care to provide some reasoning so I can prove how wrong you are? Watch the Animated Series if you don't like it.
I give up. You're right and they're right. It sucks. I won't watch it. Tintin is ruined for me. I can never watch the animated series or read the books again from how ruined it is. I can't enjoy the movie now. Spielberg is a hack. Jackson is a hack. Herge was a hack. Wright is a hack. WETA is a disappointment. And all that is proven from two stills. Why should I give a damn about Tintin anymore; it's been ruined forever and it can never be repaired. I'll never watch another Spielberg, Jackson, or Wright film because I won't ever support those Tintin-ruining buttheads ever again. Because of those stills. I'm going to go drown my sorrows in a mixture of oxycodone and heavy alcohol.
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Favs are:
-Secret of the Unicorn & Treasure of Red Rackam (is one big story)
-The seven crystal balls & The temple of the sun (also one story)
-Tintin in Tibet
For more tasteful beeings, Arte made a great serie about TinTin.
Yup, it's Peter Jackson alright.
I loved the television cartoons though. So much so that I'll probably still go see this.
LoL I didn't notice I crashed straight into the "No shit Sherlock" section
Actually it's being done with the same motion capture technology used for Avatar, but whatever. The thing is no real actors I can think of could completely capture the characters in Herges world or bring his surreal world to life. The difference between this and Zemeckis' movies is that Zemeckis does this impossible CGI camera work and crap that takes you out of the movie, not to mention nothing he does is tailor made for CGI. Also he never does anything good with it anyway.
Spielberg has been trying to make a live-action Tintin movie since around the time of making the Last Crusade and even got Herge's blessing. Herge even said he considered Spielberg the only man who could do Tintin justice. They never met in person though because Herge died not long before they were scheduled to meet on a film and then it went into production hell. Then Spielberg decided to try again and then asked Jackson and WETA if they would do a CGI Snowy for the live-action film, but Jackson told him live action wouldn't do justice to Herge or the comics, so they got together and decided to do photo-realistic motion-capture. There, now you know how wrong you were.
No way to tell about that until we see a trailer BUT this film was shot traditionally as far as the motion capture with traditional camera work, so I honestly doubt you'll be seeing anything remotely close to Zemeckis style directing with this. The picture of Haddock, for instance, looks more and more real each time I look at it.
Also-
How can you look at this image while listening to John Williams famous themes and not imagine something beautiful. Yes, John Williams is scoring this movie. So yes, motion capture has had a bad run with Zemeckis but with Spielberg and Jackson and even EDGAR WRIGHT on the team I'm willing to give it a chance.
I agree. That's a classic Spielberg shot right there. It takes us back to his Jaws-days.
And about the score, I'm excited as hell! According to what I know, the score is completed practically, but they'll do some extra sessions in the future if there any significant cuts to the picture.
Also, Conrad Pope (Williams' orchestrator) has said Tintin's theme is amazing and it's destined to become a classic!
Actually this is the best of the three screens, a.o. because it doesn't show the characters from the front. I don't like the style WETA produces, same with DreamWorks. On the other side i like Pixar's work.
Tintin-
Very realistic, especially the lighting. The textures are very well done, especially on clothing. No major uncanny valley effect present as the facial expressions and eyes are very real. The only thing keeping characters from looking like real actors is the surreal cartoonish style. The skeletal structure makes sense.
Avatar-
Just about the same amount of realism as Tintin. No uncanny valley effect; the characters look like real actors.
Lord of the Rings-
No uncanny valley effect, the skin is smooth but that makes sense for the character, the hair is realistic and so is the skeletal structure. Slightly less realistic than Tintin.
Pirates at the Caribbean-
No uncanny valley effect (betcha didn't know Davy Jones and his crew were motion capture and not actors wearing makeup huh!) Perfect textures and perfect lighting.
A Christmas Carol-
The eyes look like plastic, the face looks like plastic, the only realism comes from his wrinkles, he has no pores for being elderly, the hair texture looks fake, the cloth texture looks too smooth, and the facial expression is slightly impossible. Trust me, I tried it myself and it's painful and it makes my nose twitch. Looks NOTHING like Tintin.
The Polar Express-
It looks like a Playstation 2 game! No a Playstation game. It looks terrible. Syberia had better CGI.
I think he took the 'has similair style as Polar Express' remark as 'it looks of the same CG level of quality as Polar Express'
Wow. That's a big difference for only being a year apart.
I disagree. I think Polar Express aimed for a less photo-realistic look opposed to King Kong.
So you can't really compare them.
Just like TinTin does now. It could've looked much more realistic, but no they went for a more comical look which is great imho.
Well okay you're right. I was wrong it does have a style.
Playstation 2 CGI style.
Aww
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zM3aL5qdHqk
I actually liked those...
I have to eat my words. I was so sure no matter what Herge's characters couldn't be brought to live action without losing his style, but that is just. Wow. The comedic timing and cartoon slapstick is even intact!
Man I didn't want to post so much in this topic.
Does this make this the third and final part of Pegg and Wright's Blood and Ice Cream Trilogy?
I'm excited about the movie, because it's a Tintin movie. I don't really care what it looks like, I don't find it repulsive or amazing, I'm more curious about what the story's going to be.
Haddock's my favourite, so I'm definitely 100% for it being the story he first appears in.
Of course, they could also be making it an amalgam of several of the stories, which would be fine too.
For some reason I thought the movie was going to be an original story.
The official movie title IS The Adventures of Tintin: The Secret of the Unicorn.
I wasn't aware that you can use the term amalgam beside of dental torture.
I'm just happy we're getting Tintin movies at all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrUN4JeBFC0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opFwXDtZNLw&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tE9rqDxQUCI&feature=related
Care to provide some reasoning so I can prove how wrong you are? Watch the Animated Series if you don't like it.
I give up. You're right and they're right. It sucks. I won't watch it. Tintin is ruined for me. I can never watch the animated series or read the books again from how ruined it is. I can't enjoy the movie now. Spielberg is a hack. Jackson is a hack. Herge was a hack. Wright is a hack. WETA is a disappointment. And all that is proven from two stills. Why should I give a damn about Tintin anymore; it's been ruined forever and it can never be repaired. I'll never watch another Spielberg, Jackson, or Wright film because I won't ever support those Tintin-ruining buttheads ever again. Because of those stills. I'm going to go drown my sorrows in a mixture of oxycodone and heavy alcohol.