Focused on (love) idea of love as relevant as emotion, feeling?

edited January 2011 in General Chat
When you "fall" in love, how relevant is the subjective, objective reality of ideas behind your love?
Are the feelings more relevant, less subjective, objective, more validated and in a pure form? Ideas always have the probability to be viewed as subjectivity.

Into focus, narrowed on love, are the ideas of love, concept of love, as relevant, as the emotions?
Does referring back to the concept of love taint the true relevance of the experience as you live through it? Are the emotions of love more pure, less subjective, objective than the ideas?


Maybe color theory, such things, were invented because they do provoke a more pure and less subjective, objective form of our selves.

Less subjective, less objective, if that makes sense...

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  • edited December 2010
    Yeah, love is an emotion, like happiness or sadness.

    If you want to look at the "objective" reality of it, it's just the mental projection of our biological imperative to mate with healthy people to produce diverse and successful offspring. How unromantic.

    I really feel like your existential/psychological musings would work better as one big thread rather than a new thread every time. Maybe they all seem very distinct to you, but to me they all seem to cover very similar ground.
  • edited December 2010
    LuigiHann wrote: »
    I really feel like your existential/psychological musings would work better as one big thread rather than a new thread every time. Maybe they all seem very distinct to you, but to me they all seem to cover very similar ground.

    I have to agree on this. Because of your threads reflects questions that you come up with after getting another one of your question answered, it'll also help your repliers to back their answers up with their previous posts without explaining everything that they previously did.
  • edited December 2010
    Thanks for sharing. I'll just lay low for a while then. I don't want to start my own thread.

    Thanks for being considerate of me though, it's appreciated. I'll lay off this stuff for a while.
  • edited December 2010
    I may sound a bit strange here, but... over a course of a few years I came to a conclusion that love as a feeling is something that is shared between a dog and it's owner (and I speak that as a person who has three dogs in his apartment... and a cat... and a turtle).

    Now, there is the chemistry, a.k.a. biological urge to reproduce, a.k.a. crush, a.k.a. 'a sparkle which was there but at some point just disappeared' (call however you want), now, that is not love, because love is a feeling which is earned, and it stays forever UNLESS it's broken.

    Now, there was this family, they had a dog. The moved from the ground house to an apartment, decided dog didn't fit there, so they left it outside of the house and, well, left the house. You know what the dog did? Followed them. To their apartment. What they did? Closed the door in front of the dog. Didn't let it in. Well, it was a 'she', so, didn't let her in. So, she remained on the streets. Someone picked her up. Some time later, the previous masters, accidentally, meet their old dog with the new master, but when they wanted to come closer to her, she barked at them like they were mortal enemies her whole life. The dog's love towards those people was broken. The bond of mutual trust, respect, interdependency, it disappeared.

    This bond is not unique to humans only (as you could tell from my post), but humans, when it doesn't concern blood relatives, do call it 'friendship' very often, because, well... it's kind of the same thing. Real friendship and real love, that is.

    That's my opinion on this matter.
  • edited December 2010
    I had thought of a dog myself. I'm not fully aware what goes on in a dog's head but they are a different type of animal than we are. They may be more "real", "pure".

    Here's a nother reply I got
    Post wrote: »
    It's more easy to describe your emotions in ways that most people can empathize with.



    So when I say that there's only two women on the planet I love, and I know this because I would never say the three words 'I<3u' to either of them, you and most people will understand what that means.



    In line with your previous posts and how I've been using a nihilistic twist to give you objective value in life (what) - love itself is very subjective, much less temporary (if you look at it - it changes often, and is limited by the subject's ability to feel and receive) - it exists though, but don't confuse it for something eternal; it can't possibly, and it isn't unchanging, so don't think that once you've found it, you have it.
  • edited January 2011
    Love is just an illusion. Kinda like there's no money in the world, only dept.
  • edited January 2011
    PainDealer wrote: »
    Love is just an illusion. Kinda like there's no money in the world, only dept.

    Like depression. It's only lack of happiness. I'm looking at you, pessimist.
  • edited January 2011
    Falanca wrote: »
    Like depression. It's only lack of happiness. I'm looking at you, pessimist.

    Pessimist never gets disappointed.
  • edited January 2011
    I think love is more of a progress then an emotion, as there are many kinds of love. However, I'll just stick with the love love. I think that at first you need to talk to the person you like (since I'm a guy, I'll just refer to girls from here on out) and get to know them. You can't love a girl from just looking at a picture, but rather first understanding her own emotions. And of course it goes on to a relationship, sex, engagement, marriage, and unto death. However, you still love someone in a marriage, but then are the complications of love.

    Frankly, my first true opinion on love is getting into another relationship (me and my ex only went about 3 weeks, and met once a week).
  • edited January 2011
    BoneFreak wrote: »
    And of course it goes on to a relationship, sex, engagement, marriage, and unto death. However, you still love someone in a marriage, but then are the complications of love.

    What does marriage have to do with it if you study love as a part of human behavior? Marriage is a deal, a contract, signatures on a sheet of paper and is exclusive to humans which makes it kind of unnatural.
  • edited January 2011
    love is weird for sure. I think it is the cause of pain, along with hate.

    I don't like love, but at the same time I don't want to be without it.

    There is such a thing as too much love, and it can kill you , Queen reference barely intended. I think some one can have too much love to give, as well as receive to much.

    I may say stuff like this because I'm dead sick of being single, but I know that I thought I was in love once, it started to fall apart, then I found out she was cheating on me. Then I was an idiot and decided I wanted to be with her again, Problem? She no longer lives anywhere near me.

    Remember at one point durring the summer that I said I hated myself? Yeah, that was because of her.

    I don't like love, and yet I need somebody to love.
  • edited January 2011
    PainDealer wrote: »
    Love is just an illusion. Kinda like there's no money in the world, only dept.

    okay dude

    The argument that pessimists don't get disappointed and that optimists are disappointed all the time is just plain silly. I know many pessimists who constantly complain about how things always get worse for them and how they're disappointed in life and such.

    There is such a stance as optimistic realism. It's the stance that I take. I'm very rarely truly disappointed because I understand that things aren't perfect. However, I have a very high outlook on life. I'd rather live my life appreciating what I have and enjoying it than trudging through it.
  • edited January 2011
    ^ I struggle with the concept of love. I've had so many opportunities with so many women and it's a blessing, really, but I struggle with the concept of love and it just never happens.
  • edited January 2011
    I love long walks on the beach and getting caught in the rain.
  • edited January 2011
    i like pina colada
  • edited January 2011
    Remolay wrote: »

    Thank you that was the joke! *clicks link* ohh
  • edited January 2011
    PainDealer wrote: »
    What does marriage have to do with it if you study love as a part of human behavior? Marriage is a deal, a contract, signatures on a sheet of paper and is exclusive to humans which makes it kind of unnatural.

    Then again, marriage is only brought up because love caused this committment.

    I believe that committments in love are probably one of the most important parts of love, because there's no true point in short love, because you get over it sooner or later, as well as the fact that you don't really get anything out of it.

    As far as I'm concerned, these are what I expect from a girl (most expected to least).
    1. Nice
    2. Smart
    3. Attractive
  • edited January 2011
    Some people may struggle with basic functions. impaired functionality, they may lack independence to function, may struggle to achieve fairly "simple" (as many would perceive their self) goals. Yet, they may achieve" far more difficult goals "when given the time to challenge them in their minds. Take our scientists, "artists", "philosophers", "teachers" for example (s).

    The world may judge intelligence by functionality simply because it's easier to validate.
    History may provide examples, that show, a curve in functionality in an individual that has great results around the bend.

    This is meant to reflect a IQ level rather than intelligence alone.

    What I meant was a "intellectual impairment' ( I find these words offensive but they might work) in function ability to be able to do simple tasks, functions. Such as working a pricing gun, or tying one's own shoes...over all I meant function ability as a human being, struggling socially. People who have psychological, biological (mental) disabilities could relate possibly.
  • edited January 2011
    I think you should stop up and listen what your heart and stomach tells you, as long as possible.
    When I fall in love, it is the feeling I have from the guy importent. How I experience him.:)
  • edited January 2011
    Awwww man, these threads. If people stopped trying to analyse life and just lived it there'd be a lot less self-concious awkward folk out there
  • edited January 2011
    Jessica wrote: »
    I think you should stop up and listen what your heart and stomach tells you, as long as possible.
    When I fall in love, it is the feeling I have from the guy importent. How I experience him.:)

    I don't think it's a option for some people. My intellectual functional-ability within the social surface of reality is greatly impaired. So I perceive it to be ,and my subjective reality has been strongly molded. My image of self has been painted into self portrait.


    I don't "experience her". I wish it were that simple for me. Listen to my heart, stomach? I hear what they say, but I give into my stomach far more often.
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