Well the top one fits more, because you can not honestly tell me that Anakin would look like a 20 year old for the rest of his life
Sebastian Shaw is what Anakin would look like by the time of A New Hope. It's seriously like 20 years by the time it happens. Hayden Christensan(Or whatever) does not look like a 40 Year Old
But of course, whose to say that Anakin's force spirit shouldn't look as burnt as he was at the time he died, We don't know how it works. But a 20 year old just doesn't fit with a 40 year old character.
This image is what Star Wars Hell looks like, and Hayden is the devil. Seriously, keep the prequel shit out of the originals, Lucas! It makes no damn sense for the reasons Remolay outlined. You can't tell me when you die in Star Wars Land your spirit ages backwards twenty years! Lucas had to have known this! It was probably a contractual thing on Hayden's part, or something.
Just look at Hayden's face. He's so damn smug. He knows you're probably crying in your Darth Vader helmet and Wookie gloves because of his inclusion. The little bastard knows he's been imprinted on Star Wars ass like a cancer for all eternity, and he's not even hiding his damn arrogance about the fact you can't DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. URGH! HNNNGH! I CAN'T TAKE THAT FACE ANYMORE! DIE! DIE! KILL! KILL! FOUNTAINS OF BLOOOOD!
You would think that Yoda and Obiwan where like "WTF! why do you get to be a young ghost!?!?" I am also surprised they didnt throw in Qui Gon in that scene.. after all Yoda said that Qui Gon was the one who figured out how to go all spectral
I voted for 'neither'. I never liked this scene. Nor in the original (crappy music, plus, well, ghosts), nor in the 1997 SE (Emperor's death doesn't mean that the war's over, after all... plus, well, ghosts ), nor in the 2004 SE (Actually, I don't mind Hayden too much, as an actor. His acting is crap in EpII, but it's okay in EpIII, and in other non-SW movies you can see that Hayden's not a bad actor. He just needs some normal direction. Anyway, I do understand the logic that George used, like it's the man who 'died' when he became Darth Vader and bla-bla-bla, but... that's kind of sketchy).
Anyway, the point is, I don't think Anakin should have a ghost. At all. That's the point of his redemption: he sacrifices himself to save the life of his son knowing that nothing awaits him at the other side, and, well, it shouldn't have.
I honestly don't really care. But to all those complaining about aging, i present to you an image of what Anakin skywalker really looked like at the time of death, so neither ghost is right. Heck, I never used to know who the ghost was!
I watch the prequel films some what often. I usually laugh at Hayden Christen as I watch them. I don't own my own copies as of yet, I borrow from my sister. I would watch TPM ROTS almost any day. Once in a 2 moon I'll watch AOTC.
As for the "ghosts" (age) maybe a less "scientific "perspective would be considered and you may take a more "philosophical", "mythological "approach?
Thank you. I also like Jar Jar. He gets much less annoying after Episode 1, and I finally found out the reason he's so annoying in episode 1 is because he is a child.
Thank you. I also like Jar Jar. He gets much less annoying after Episode 1, and I finally found out the reason he's so annoying in episode 1 is because he is a child.
He single handedly hands the damn galaxy over to Emperor Palpatine. I don't give a damn if he was ever funny or if Palpatine was elected by votes, Jar Jar was the one who handed the damn galaxy to him. It's like Lucas was laughing in everyone's face. I have a theory that he hung himself in shame because of what he did.
If they were the same films but without the Star Wars branding, they'd have been colossal failures and have sub-6.0 ratings on IMDb.com. They are absolutely horrendously made films.
In short, he says the prequels suck and he explains, scene by scene, exactly why they do. I used to think that Revenge of the Sith was a decent movie until I watched this review and realized just how much my expectations really had been lowered without my realizing it.
Love those reviews! My favorites though, are the brilliant videos over at redlettermedia.com;
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Yeeeeaaah, right. I can't stand those videos. From what I could bear to watch, the writer of those reviews makes good points, but overall the videos are AWFUL: disgusting character, shitty humor, crappy editing, all in all very unpleasant to watch.
If they were the same films but without the Star Wars branding, they'd have been colossal failures and have sub-6.0 ratings on IMDb.com. They are absolutely horrendously made films.
I don't think so. TPM was the first star wars film I ever saw, and I loved it. In fact, initially i hated the originals. I found them slow paced and boring (i remember switching it off during a new hope, on tattooine). I embrace CGI. Saying there is too much CGI is like saying a film uses too many props. The issue with the first three is that people had really high expectations, and have a strong amount of nostalgia attached to the originals, that blinds them to what they were really like. Nowadays, all the plot twists are clichéd, and the acting is about the same level as with the new films. (in fact, the only actor I didn't like in 2/3 was Hayden Christensen. He seemed a little drunk with some of his lines.)
I swear i've gotten into this arguement with you before...
Oh well. Lets just agree to differ.
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Yeeeeaaah, right. I can't stand those videos. From what I could bear to watch, the writer of those reviews makes good points, but overall the videos are AWFUL: disgusting character, shitty humor, crappy editing, all in all very unpleasant to watch.
I agree with Falander. I couldn't stand to watch them for longer than 20 seconds.
Therein lies your problem. You can't start off with the prequels. You have to watch the original version of the Original Trilogy, by itself without connecting it to the other crap. This is to say you ought to watch the Star Wars movies in the order that they were produced, not in chronological order.
I agree with Falander. I couldn't stand to watch them for longer than 20 seconds.
Therein lies your problem. You can't start off with the prequels. You have to watch the original version of the Original Trilogy, by itself without connecting it to the other crap. This is to say you ought to watch the Star Wars movies in the order that they were produced, not in chronological order.
Why? I enjoy all the films now, which is more than most people do, so I could simply reverse what you just said. You have to watch them in numerical order to appreciate them.
That image pair infuriates me. Young Skywalker picture just... ugh.
That original trilogy is a good story. The prequels aren't a good story. I just remember cringing as Vader goes "NOOOOOOOOOO" at the end of the third film. The number of problems I have with the first three goes beyond things like Jar Jar. I remember thinking how insipid it was to watch as young Anakin accidentally destroyed that starbase at the end of The Phantom Menace. I may as well have been watching a children's story. There's consequence at the end of A New Hope, at the end of Empire Strikes Back. I didn't care about Anakin in Phantom Menace. The Qui Gon and Ben storyline, that had impact. It was just watered down by all the stupid coincidental heroics happening at the same time.
Nothing in that movie compares to Ben's death in A New Hope and Han swooping in screaming "You're all clear kid!"
That original trilogy is a good story. The prequels aren't a good story.
Disagree with you there. George knows how to create a good story, and prequels have a good story. If you retell it to someone who has no idea about Star Wars, it would sound awesome and profound. BUT. George doesn't know how to TELL a good story on screen (hence the "NOOOOO!!!" and other stuff). And that's the problem with Star Wars Saga as a whole, IMO. A good story told pretty badly.
The only really good Star Wars movie that has stood the test of time and knows how to tell a good story, IMO, is The Empire Strikes Back (which is George's story, but it's other people who have told it to the audience). And, for what it's worth, I also do like Revenge of the Sith (even though it has it's low moments). For the record, A New Hope for me is like the first King's Quest game: I respect it for what it has done, but it hasn't aged well (and is very bland and boring for me, unlike many other old movies). That's my opinion on Star Wars movies. Kind of ironic, I guess, that when I was a kid, I loved all six of them.
A New Hope has obvious references to past movies that make it immortal in my eyes. It's the same with Indiana Jones, they're both tribute movies, and they don't really tarnish to me.
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Sebastian Shaw is what Anakin would look like by the time of A New Hope. It's seriously like 20 years by the time it happens. Hayden Christensan(Or whatever) does not look like a 40 Year Old
But of course, whose to say that Anakin's force spirit shouldn't look as burnt as he was at the time he died, We don't know how it works. But a 20 year old just doesn't fit with a 40 year old character.
This image is what Star Wars Hell looks like, and Hayden is the devil. Seriously, keep the prequel shit out of the originals, Lucas! It makes no damn sense for the reasons Remolay outlined. You can't tell me when you die in Star Wars Land your spirit ages backwards twenty years! Lucas had to have known this! It was probably a contractual thing on Hayden's part, or something.
Just look at Hayden's face. He's so damn smug. He knows you're probably crying in your Darth Vader helmet and Wookie gloves because of his inclusion. The little bastard knows he's been imprinted on Star Wars ass like a cancer for all eternity, and he's not even hiding his damn arrogance about the fact you can't DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. URGH! HNNNGH! I CAN'T TAKE THAT FACE ANYMORE! DIE! DIE! KILL! KILL! FOUNTAINS OF BLOOOOD!
And if he also weren't the single worst actor in the history of cinema. I'd have preferred Tommy Wiseau as Anakin.
Anyway, the point is, I don't think Anakin should have a ghost. At all. That's the point of his redemption: he sacrifices himself to save the life of his son knowing that nothing awaits him at the other side, and, well, it shouldn't have.
"From my point of view, the Jedi are evil!"
Case closed.
While I prefer the Shaw shot by a long shot, I do agree with you; Hayden's version would be okay if he wasn't so creepy looking
I didn't say there weren't crappy lines (which also were crappy acted), but in EpIII there are many moments where I actually like Hayden's acting.
Why are we talking the leader of the Hellfire Club, though?
I was, however, compelled to vote that Yoda is sexy. I don't know why.
Also, the prequels were good films.
That's because he is.
THANKYOU!!
I was sad about all the hate for the prequels in this thread.
Also, I like Jar Jar.
I voted neutral, because the only problem I have is the whole 'looks 20 years younger' thing.
As for the "ghosts" (age) maybe a less "scientific "perspective would be considered and you may take a more "philosophical", "mythological "approach?
Perhaps.
Thank you. I also like Jar Jar. He gets much less annoying after Episode 1, and I finally found out the reason he's so annoying in episode 1 is because he is a child.
He single handedly hands the damn galaxy over to Emperor Palpatine. I don't give a damn if he was ever funny or if Palpatine was elected by votes, Jar Jar was the one who handed the damn galaxy to him. It's like Lucas was laughing in everyone's face. I have a theory that he hung himself in shame because of what he did.
I'm sorry, but no they were not.
Terrible direction, terrible dialogue, terrible pacing, annoying characters, constant overdone CGI.
If they were the same films but without the Star Wars branding, they'd have been colossal failures and have sub-6.0 ratings on IMDb.com. They are absolutely horrendously made films.
However,
ROTS has a 7.8
ATOC has a 6.8
TPM 6.4, which if you round off, I guess it is a 6.
Dear George Lucas
Phantom Menace - Part 1 : Part 2 : Part 3
Attack of the Clones - Part 1 : Part 2 : Part 3
Revenge of the Sith - Part 1 : Part 2 : Part 3
In short, he says the prequels suck and he explains, scene by scene, exactly why they do. I used to think that Revenge of the Sith was a decent movie until I watched this review and realized just how much my expectations really had been lowered without my realizing it.
Love those reviews! My favorites though, are the brilliant videos over at redlettermedia.com;
EPISODE I
EPISODE II
EPISODE III
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Yeeeeaaah, right. I can't stand those videos. From what I could bear to watch, the writer of those reviews makes good points, but overall the videos are AWFUL: disgusting character, shitty humor, crappy editing, all in all very unpleasant to watch.
I don't think so. TPM was the first star wars film I ever saw, and I loved it. In fact, initially i hated the originals. I found them slow paced and boring (i remember switching it off during a new hope, on tattooine). I embrace CGI. Saying there is too much CGI is like saying a film uses too many props. The issue with the first three is that people had really high expectations, and have a strong amount of nostalgia attached to the originals, that blinds them to what they were really like. Nowadays, all the plot twists are clichéd, and the acting is about the same level as with the new films. (in fact, the only actor I didn't like in 2/3 was Hayden Christensen. He seemed a little drunk with some of his lines.)
I swear i've gotten into this arguement with you before...
Oh well. Lets just agree to differ.
I agree with Falander. I couldn't stand to watch them for longer than 20 seconds.
Therein lies your problem. You can't start off with the prequels. You have to watch the original version of the Original Trilogy, by itself without connecting it to the other crap. This is to say you ought to watch the Star Wars movies in the order that they were produced, not in chronological order.
Why? I enjoy all the films now, which is more than most people do, so I could simply reverse what you just said. You have to watch them in numerical order to appreciate them.
That original trilogy is a good story. The prequels aren't a good story. I just remember cringing as Vader goes "NOOOOOOOOOO" at the end of the third film. The number of problems I have with the first three goes beyond things like Jar Jar. I remember thinking how insipid it was to watch as young Anakin accidentally destroyed that starbase at the end of The Phantom Menace. I may as well have been watching a children's story. There's consequence at the end of A New Hope, at the end of Empire Strikes Back. I didn't care about Anakin in Phantom Menace. The Qui Gon and Ben storyline, that had impact. It was just watered down by all the stupid coincidental heroics happening at the same time.
Nothing in that movie compares to Ben's death in A New Hope and Han swooping in screaming "You're all clear kid!"
Dang it!
Disagree with you there. George knows how to create a good story, and prequels have a good story. If you retell it to someone who has no idea about Star Wars, it would sound awesome and profound. BUT. George doesn't know how to TELL a good story on screen (hence the "NOOOOO!!!" and other stuff). And that's the problem with Star Wars Saga as a whole, IMO. A good story told pretty badly.
The only really good Star Wars movie that has stood the test of time and knows how to tell a good story, IMO, is The Empire Strikes Back (which is George's story, but it's other people who have told it to the audience). And, for what it's worth, I also do like Revenge of the Sith (even though it has it's low moments). For the record, A New Hope for me is like the first King's Quest game: I respect it for what it has done, but it hasn't aged well (and is very bland and boring for me, unlike many other old movies). That's my opinion on Star Wars movies. Kind of ironic, I guess, that when I was a kid, I loved all six of them.
A New Hope has obvious references to past movies that make it immortal in my eyes. It's the same with Indiana Jones, they're both tribute movies, and they don't really tarnish to me.
Well, not a SMALL kid, I was 14 in 2005. It was the end of my 'Love everything Star Wars (bar the books)' period.