If you are expecting me to have a complex argument as to why I do not like her, you are going to be disappointed. Suffice to say that while she's cute and has a decent voice, her music (at least as far as I've encountered it) is derivative, substance-less teeny pop. Is it the worst thing ever? No. But honestly--do you think "Girlfriend" was written with an audience other then teenaged girls in mind?
Now you're showing both sides of the argument by using compliments to level the field so that you can play ball ...
Yet, we're still not on the same playing field, you never liked her music and yet you're telling me that it sucks just because of your personal experience/ tastes? Why is the concept of being in tune with things, or attracted to certain things so alien to so many people. You don't like it, so it sucks, it stinks? Why have we learned to express ourselves in this way!?
And you end with a question? A question!?
FASCINATING!
Some of her songs may be geared towards a certain audience from a sociological perspective, and their for by design but the actual experience, the actual value of these experiences we have in life are not essentially experienced how people believe they will , must be, how they will be. This social/ metal and psychological conditioning completes our psyches, that language piece in our brains that describes what we're seeing, what we can expect to see, etc etc...
Where do we draw the line? And why are opinions like the touch of GOD!? Why do we all have opinions as if by genetic default? Don't we see what's right in front of our faces!? That it's a personality thing or a social condition!?
Are we that intolerant or un-open minded that we can't reserve our initial judge-ments or opinions and interpret things out of curousity, the value and significance of those things, rather than in shear disinterest disown something entirely or say it's stupid or sucks!?
People just limit their selves and they don't develop further comprehension skills and everyone fits into the molds of culture or society, conditioning, what's acceptable!
This world is molded, cookie cutter! It's programming. I can listen to Barbie Girl if I damn want to...and I could date a awesome hot punk/ goth chick if I wanted to, if not just in my dreams...:(
RAGHGHHGHGWAHWAHWHAHWAHWHAWAHWHAHWAHW What am I on about again>?
I don't care. None of you get it. This has far more emotion and value to it than most other chick singers of her time. She was truly something special before the man reprogrammed her. She was truly something special. Her lyrics are all meaningful for the first two albums. Her music had a message, purpose.
And if you ever saw her old interviews or old studio recordings maybe you'd understand...
How can it be awful, she has a signature success..
Success really isn't correspondent to talent or quality in the music industry these days. I'm not necessarily referring to Avril, it's just that I find this statement somewhat flawed.
You're argument has sociological barriers, it's flawed, it's not logical...it's not fair, it's not calculated, your making leaps...
These need to be switched. Sorry, I just couldn't let that go by unmentioned.
She sounds quite nasally and strained on this performance. Just a personal observation. And no, I'm not saying this to be a troll or to rag on Avril. I actually don't have much of a problem with her as a person or artist (I do intensely dislike "Girlfried", though); I'm just pointing out that this was not the ideal performance to link to if you are trying to reverse people's negative opinions of Miss Lavigne.
It's ok, my mind is finally slipping through the grates below as all is washed away from the stormy night down into the sewers...
Firstly, I fail to see how this is relevant to the topic at hand; we're discussing Avril Lavigne (mostly).
Secondly, in response to what you're actually saying, it probably wouldn't be the case if you weren't constantly telling yourself this. I know you're probably going through some sort of struggle at the moment, but you're only enhancing the severity of your situation by constantly convincing yourself that you're completely down and out (which is the basic gist that I'm getting from your recent posts). I know I can't put myself in your shoes, but surely you'd be better off by adopting a different mindset; your current one can't be healthy.
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Now you're showing both sides of the argument by using compliments to level the field so that you can play ball ...
Yet, we're still not on the same playing field, you never liked her music and yet you're telling me that it sucks just because of your personal experience/ tastes? Why is the concept of being in tune with things, or attracted to certain things so alien to so many people. You don't like it, so it sucks, it stinks? Why have we learned to express ourselves in this way!?
And you end with a question? A question!?
FASCINATING!
Some of her songs may be geared towards a certain audience from a sociological perspective, and their for by design but the actual experience, the actual value of these experiences we have in life are not essentially experienced how people believe they will , must be, how they will be. This social/ metal and psychological conditioning completes our psyches, that language piece in our brains that describes what we're seeing, what we can expect to see, etc etc...
Where do we draw the line? And why are opinions like the touch of GOD!? Why do we all have opinions as if by genetic default? Don't we see what's right in front of our faces!? That it's a personality thing or a social condition!?
Are we that intolerant or un-open minded that we can't reserve our initial judge-ments or opinions and interpret things out of curousity, the value and significance of those things, rather than in shear disinterest disown something entirely or say it's stupid or sucks!?
People just limit their selves and they don't develop further comprehension skills and everyone fits into the molds of culture or society, conditioning, what's acceptable!
This world is molded, cookie cutter! It's programming. I can listen to Barbie Girl if I damn want to...and I could date a awesome hot punk/ goth chick if I wanted to, if not just in my dreams...:(
RAGHGHHGHGWAHWAHWHAHWAHWHAWAHWHAHWAHW What am I on about again>?
Now, that's just going to encourage him to write more noise posts. Which I suppose is rather entertaining...
It gives us more ammo to make it sound like GLaDOS is "having fun." Besides, it's better than listening to Avril Lavigne!!! (FULL CIRCLE)
It does, I'll give it that. Already Doodo's musings and the Hi everyone! thread have produced...interesting results.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrOlIladAM8
I don't care. None of you get it. This has far more emotion and value to it than most other chick singers of her time. She was truly something special before the man reprogrammed her. She was truly something special. Her lyrics are all meaningful for the first two albums. Her music had a message, purpose.
And if you ever saw her old interviews or old studio recordings maybe you'd understand...
Try the alternative, then.
Success really isn't correspondent to talent or quality in the music industry these days. I'm not necessarily referring to Avril, it's just that I find this statement somewhat flawed.
These need to be switched. Sorry, I just couldn't let that go by unmentioned.
She sounds quite nasally and strained on this performance. Just a personal observation. And no, I'm not saying this to be a troll or to rag on Avril. I actually don't have much of a problem with her as a person or artist (I do intensely dislike "Girlfried", though); I'm just pointing out that this was not the ideal performance to link to if you are trying to reverse people's negative opinions of Miss Lavigne.
Firstly, I fail to see how this is relevant to the topic at hand; we're discussing Avril Lavigne (mostly).
Secondly, in response to what you're actually saying, it probably wouldn't be the case if you weren't constantly telling yourself this. I know you're probably going through some sort of struggle at the moment, but you're only enhancing the severity of your situation by constantly convincing yourself that you're completely down and out (which is the basic gist that I'm getting from your recent posts). I know I can't put myself in your shoes, but surely you'd be better off by adopting a different mindset; your current one can't be healthy.