The Telltale Five - what will return?
As you probably know, it has been revealed that Telltale is going to reveal their next five projects after Back to the Future and Jurassic Park next month. All that's been revealed about what they are is that one will be based upon a current TV and comic book franchise, which everyone has assumed to be The Walking Dead.
I'd like to see what people think the most likely returning series will be among those five, or indeed if people think any will return at all.
Edit: Crap, I forgot to make it possible to choose multiple options. Could a mod please fix that or, if that's not possible, delete the thread?
I'd like to see what people think the most likely returning series will be among those five, or indeed if people think any will return at all.
Edit: Crap, I forgot to make it possible to choose multiple options. Could a mod please fix that or, if that's not possible, delete the thread?
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If one of these projects isn't more Tales, I will cry like a two year-old.
In that case I hope they increase the difficulty.
Can't think of a reason not to!
The Walking Dead
Puzzle Agent (full series)
A new one-off episode of a little known series (can't remember the lingo they were using when Puzzle Agent was announced)
Monkey Island Season 2
Not sure about the fourth. It may well just be another one-off episode.
PLEASE!
Telltale had BETTER blow my mind with these announcements if it's not TMI2.
Hopefully a Puzzle Agent season too.
If one of these projects isn't more Tales, I will cry for two years.
Sam and Max Season 4: Sam and Max is, more or less, Telltale's biggest franchise. It's a safe bet that as long as Telltale has the Sam and Max license (which it seems like they will for quite a while), there will always be a Sam and Max season at some point in development, even if it's just in the conceptual stages. In fact, it's a pretty safe bet that they were coming up with ideas for Season 4 before The Devil's Playhouse had even finished. Granted, with Back to the Future, Jurassic Park, and who knows what else in the works, it might be a while before Telltale gets to Season 4, but with five announcements, I get the feeling Telltale will be showing off everything they have planned for the next two years or so. I'd be more surprised if they didn't announce Season 4 than if they did.
SBCG4AP Season 2: Strong Bad's appearance in Poker Night at the Inventory proves The Chaps are willing to place Homestar in Telltale's hands again. There's also the fact that the site has been updating very rarely as of late. (There were only four "real" updates, by which I mean actual new content, throughout 2010.) While there are multiple factors in the lack of updates (Matt's baby, Monster Safari, Poker Night), I wouldn't be surprised if a new SBCG4AP season factored in as well. Also, Telltale recently decided to re-release SBCG4AP for the PS3 and Mac. Why do they suddenly want us paying attention to one of their older games again, hmm?
Monkey Island 6: When Telltale announced they were making a new Monkey Island game, people went berserk. Tales won Telltale just as much attention and acclaim as Sam and Max have (maybe even more), and it did it in just one season. Not to mention Tales ended on a cliffhanger. Telltale would have to be crazy to not make another Monkey Island...if they're allowed to, at least. Remember that Monkey Island is LucasArts property. Yes, LucasArts let Telltale develop Tales, but that was back when Rodriguez was President of LucasArts. Now that he's left, we can probably look forward to LucasArts sticking to the formula that's proved so profitable already: An endless sea of Star Wars crap.
A Puzzle Agent Season: You can tell that Telltale loves Puzzle Agent and definitely wants it to be a success. They've been doing everything they can to push it (to the point of giving it away for free with BttF pre-orders). If Puzzle Agent sells well enough to justify more installments, Telltale will definitely make more. The question is...has it sold well enough? Now, I don't know the sales statistics to Puzzle Agent, and I'm not going to pretend to. Maybe it's done well, maybe it hasn't. However, if I'm going to guess, although I loved Puzzle Agent's If-David-Lynch-Made-Professor-Layton style, I admit the game is pretty...nichey, even by the standards of a company that makes point-and-click adventure games. Hopefully it did well enough, but we'll have to wait and see.
Something Else at the Inventory: I know for a fact that Poker Night did sell well (it was even outselling New Vegas on Steam at one point), but...and I'm not trying to be insulting here, just realistic...the majority of the sales came from people who wanted the Team Fortress 2 items and would've paid no attention to the game otherwise. It might be difficult for Telltale to figure out how much actual interest people had for the game. There's also the fact that the very concept behind "The Inventory" is a licensing nightmare. Fortunately, Telltale has already proved they can pull something like that off. After all, they got four separate licenses for Poker Night, right? Remember, though, of those four licenses, three of them are creator-owned (and they happened to have a good relationship with the company behind the fourth). And two of them originated from the Internet. If Telltale tries to give The Inventory some more high-profile attendants, they might have trouble. All I ask, though, is that if Telltale makes another "At the Inventory" game (and despite all this stuff I'm saying, I did like Poker Night and would like to see more of the Inventory), I hope it's something more gameplay-intensive than poker. A point-and-click would be great.
More Wallace and Gromit: Does Telltale even have the license anymore? Even if they did, I don't think it sold well enough to warrant a sequel.
More Bone: No license, no chance.
I would love to see (But not the one I prefer the most): ToMI 2 or In the Inventory 2
I would be kinda disappointed (But play it anyway): SBCG4AP or Puzzle Agent
I wouldn't even dare to download its demo: A Walking Dead game
The worst thing I would enjoy MORE than a Walking Dead game: A Twilight game made by Telltale.
Okay, I went off-track...
-Homestar
-Spy
-Louis (PILLZ!)
-Guybrush
-Sam (Max again wouldn't be too bad)
-Comic character (Cyanide and Happiness "guy" (pushing it), Dr.McNinja(unlikely), Ratfist(well, any DougTenNapel character really...(Imagine Earthworm Jim!
I don't think all of their 5 new projects would turn out to be new stuff. That'd be an overkill IMO.
I think it's also safe to expect more from Puzzle Agent or At the Inventory, possibly both. Strong Bad seems doubtful; the fans would hate if that were an important reason for getting so few updates.
With the management changes at LucasArts more Monkey Island (or another LA license) seems too much to hope for. OTOH, it is a license to print money.
Actually with this many projects this seems like as good a time as any to hope for a Telltale original IP. Here's hoping.
Maybe they want to re-launch both games... because Telltale is going to continue the story!!!
That... is a thought now.
Fair enough HotRod or someone did them, but still....
Or Bone. Even though it wasn't listed.
My vote went to Monkey Island, because we deserve a sequel
Thaaaaaaaaaat's pretty darn unlikely, not to mention could be outrageous to many MI fans.
Dont know why, I just do.
Why? The clifflanger everyone keeps mentioning in TOMI is Morgan-related. She and Voodoo Lady are the only characters whose subplots aren't completely resolved, and they deliberately hint at her having new adventures. Plus, it's possible that Telltale asked for a special stipulation in the LucasArts contract allowing them to keep the rights to her character, whether or not they keep the MI rights.
Okay, um... It wouldn't work. When you leave the main series with a cliffhanger and decide to continue with an irrelevant spinoff, people would go angry. It's not like they can get MI's rights from Lucasarts whenever they want (It's a risky thing, it's an expensive deal and not always it's guaranteed that the game will succeed, and not always it's guaranteed that Lucasarts will agree on giving the rights to Telltale if they mess it up once; and let me explain you that making the game about a newly introduced side character rather than Guybrush wouldn't help it AT ALL).
And you're saying Telltale would go for extreme measures just to keep one single character in THEIR hands. Why? Why would they do that? A spinoff is a bad idea to begin with. And if they get MI's license as a whole, they can make a game that stars GUYBRUSH but has Morgan as a side character, like how everyone prefers to have.
Apart from that, no. It contradicts with the franchise's main idea. It's the opposite of what franchise tries to give to people over the many years. You may like the character, hell I also love the character. But you don't see how it has the potential of killing the character and maybe even the whole franchise. Even if the game turns out to be good people will be angry because of that decision. It will not succeed.
If you say that in a new season, one of the 5 episodes would be played as Morgan instead of Guybrush; you know what? I'm okay with that. It would be a good twist. But even THAT would anger many people.
Again, the cliffhanger was Morgan-centric. Guybrush, Elaine, and LeChuck had closure. If they're picking up from the cliffhanger, Morgan is the most logical focus, and is VERY relevant.
A character that Telltale created. I'm not saying that Telltale would go for extreme measures, but it's possible that they knew ahead of time that they wanted to reuse Morgan and asked LucasArts if it'd be cool.
Presumably, they planned out Morgan's cliffhanger from the start. Therefore, it's not too unreasonable to think that maybe they wanted to hold onto the character to tell more stories focusing on her, instead of making her peripheral to Guybrush's story.
Matter of opinion, but I'd like to reiterate that this isn't necessarily what I'd prefer, this is just what seems more likely to me, given the post-Rodriguez state of LucasArts.
But it would be a new franchise, spinning off of the old one. The main idea of "Cheers" was characters hanging out at a bar. Just because "Frasier" went in a completely different direction doesn't make it a detriment to the original.
Any new story featuring an established character has the potential to kill the character. But that's a flimsy excuse to resist trying anything new.
And ironically, I wouldn't be okay with that. I'd much prefer Morgan get her own franchise than we suddenly change protagonists in an existing one.
Again, I have no insider information, and I'm not saying that a separate Morgan game would necessarily be good (although I'd definitely give it a chance), but it feels like that's what the end of TOMI was building up to, and if they gave Morgan a new adventure, with all new characters and all new locations, I don't see how that could possibly harm the Monkey franchise as a whole. It's not like the cancellation of "The Tortelli's" harmed the "Cheers" franchise. (Man, I need to think of another TV show that had spinoffs. :P )
Plus, Morgan was turned to a ghost because Voodoo Lady has plans for her. There you go, she's still in Monkey Island storyline.
LucasArts owns Monkey Island. They let Telltale to make a game. Any character that they came up with is still in Monkey Island, which is still Lucas's full property.
You played Poker Night? It has Winslow in it. And they couldn't use his name because it's LucasArts's character, so they just showed him like it's another character. He never addresses to himself, he never makes a direct reference to his role in Tales of Monkey Island... And he IS a character that Telltale created. It doesn't mean anything, Lucas owns it.
I'm not saying it's entirely impossible, I'm saying it does not worth the extra effort and they wouldn't even go for such a thing.
It is too unreasonable. Character herself was built on Guybrush and how she reacts to him. Without Guybrush the character and her backstory would undergo a strict change which would either destroy the character or add different details to her story that would fill in the gaps that noone would want to know about other than some creepy fanboys of her.
Character is complete. No need for a spinoff. Also she has a side character personality, depending on one of the main characters's personality. Not a MAIN character personality. I have a hard time imagining playing as her.
No offense, but I think this is a lie. If it's likely to you that's because it's what you'd like to see. It's almost too spesific for "just anyone" to come up with. It's easier for someone that likes Marquis de Singe to say "I think they're going for a Marquis de Singe spinoff!", especially when noone else thinks of such an idea.
It worked because of the difference of the settings. Cheers is about a bar and Fraiser is about a radio show host and his family. It has little to no significance to each other, except one significant bond.
Monkey Island is about a pirate sailing the seas to defeat an evil pirate. A spinoff of Morgan would be about a pirate HUNTER sailing the seas, probably to defeat an evil pirate. Not so different, don't you think? If it's not that different, why is there a need?
It's not something new. It's called milking the idea of a liked character. And I would like to resist it. The reason I offered that as a reason why it's unlikely to happen because this idea has MORE potential to ruin the character than a simple continuation of the main franchise.
It would work; I don't think Morgan could contain a really long storyline that would keep us busy for 2 more years until Telltale wants to go with a ToMI2. But she could have a little storyline for just one episode in the middle of the season while Guybrush himself is working on his own problems.
It's just you. Noone else got that. To everyone else it was "a building up to the appearance of this character in the next installment of this franchise", and what it means is simply Morgan will be present in ToMI2. Because it's more likely.
Like Friends and Joey? Oh wait, that didn't work so well either.
Very good point. I'd much rather see what the Voodoo Lady's up to next.
Well, obviously in my uninformed random speculation, Telltale let LucasArts keep Winslow so they could still use him as Guybrush's sidekick if they made another MI without them. :P
Which is why a spinoff would develop her character further, now that she's grown past her Guybrush obsession. There are different directions she could go in. Sure, her part in Guybrush's story is complete, but that doesn't mean she can't be fleshed out more.
Not really. Morgan was okay, but she wasn't my favorite new character. I just think she fits the archetype of an action-adventure game hero. I'd much prefer another Guybrush adventure, but I'd certainly trust Telltale with a new unrelated Morgan story and give it a shot.
Very good point. Two pirate-related franchises could be pretty redundant (although I think Morgan as hero would allow the game to have a radically different tone, even in a similar setting).
See, to me, giving Morgan a token chapter in a Monkey Island story comes WAY more off as "milking a liked character" than giving her a new, well-developed story of her own would be. Unless they built up to it really well, Ghost Morgan appearing in Guybrush's next adventure would be as pointless as Murray's cameo in EMI. And again, I'd be way more pissed to have the sixth Monkey Island game suddenly introduce a second playable character than to have a peripherally-related spinoff have that character.
A quick forum search confirms that I'm not the first person to think of a Morgan spinoff. Granted, this poll was made before TOMI's cliffhanger ending, but it reinforces the idea that to many, she seems designed as a potential game protagonist.
Actually, thanks, that's a great example. "Joey" is widely regarded as one of the worst sitcoms of all time. And yet, the people who were "Friends" fans didn't suddenly throw away their DVD collections just because of a spinoff misfire. "Friends" still has enormous popularity, even as "Joey" continues to be a laughing stock. A spinoff will rarely, if ever, harm the general perception of the original franchise. Hell, there are people who hate TOMI, but it doesn't retroactively destroy SMI and LCR for them.
Again, I would MUCH rather have a new MI game than a Morgan game...but I'd still play a Morgan game if it came out, and it still seems like a reasonable thing for Telltale to do. I'm not sure why I'm debating this so hard, but hey, I'm having fun with this discussion. :P
I also remember seeing an interview where they said they were interested in Day of the Tentacle, but that seems like kind of a long shot.
As for Day of the Tentacle. I was hoping with all recent special releases of Monkey island 1 & 2 that DOTT and Full Throttle would get updates as well. I especially like the way they did the in game commentary on MI 2.
Alas I have heard nothing about any future Special Edition releases. Does anyone even know how LucasArts came out in regards to sales? Surely with the PC , Xbox and PS3 releases they made some money ???? And yes I called everyone Shirley. :eek:
both of those already are already fully voiced so special editions would be pointless. i'm all for a re release though
Loom is fully voiced, but it's badly in need of a remake. The interface is horribly clunky and could use some modern polish to make it more playable.