How do we validate, process, when everything has a fluid movement ?

edited February 2011 in General Chat
Again, I'm bored...Again this is a social concept, another social concept. It's mostly subjective issues, tastes, etc.

LOL don't want to talk about objective vs subjective again.

For example say I'm psychologically, emotionally attracted to a metal song, I hear a guy screaming but I hate how his voice cracks at the end of each scream. I am attracted to the beginning of his scream however. But the transition of one scream to the other, the space in between each segment of his voice I don't enjoy.

When taken separately I do attract towards his voice, if re-arranged in a editior I might be attracted towards the entire song. On a flip side a female scream-o band might have better transitions and her voice may not crack as much at the end of a scream from its start, because she can hit higher notes without cracking her voice.

We often seem to only socially psychologically take in some of the context of what we're attracted to, not attracted to, we don't seem to process the transitions and seams between the things we attract to. If everything is fluid then their must be transitions and seams.

Do we note the beginning, end, middle? What exactly are we attracted to?How is it processed?

Things continuously change, there's only a familiar psychological parallel arrangement to draw back to. Things are always changing psychologically, as you're always re-arranged, slightly re-organized psychologically yourself with each day you experience life on new life...

Our psyches manifest on a fluid surface of ideas that shift from one person to another, one mood or another, one state to another even at times.


Our feelings towards something are also fluid as the mind continues to process things, by breaking them down, or enforcing those things. So when having a emotional response/ attraction to something how do you validate a "true moment", a " pure response" to those things? It's all fluid, primary, secondary emotions, etc etc.

And, if it is all fluid then how do you know when you truly experience something's essential value? How do you know?

Is it only when the social archives of our psyche place something into a familiar context, or a socailly functional context, something we understand, use to survive, to socialize with others that our minds and feelings complete the picture, restrict it to form/ concept?

If things are fluid they have a start and keep going, they have a initial. They have a once and original response.

Does our subconscious collect all the fluid reality of something while our consciousness covers it up in layers? How exactly does this work? Are we a proper transmitter for reality, we seem to only function as human vessels, not well enough to actually define or transmit reality in it's actual pure state.

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  • edited February 2011
    Weren't you told to pick one of your threads and post all of this kind of stuff in it instead of making a new one once a week?
  • edited February 2011
    Weren't you told to pick one of your threads and post all of this kind of stuff in it instead of making a new one once a week?

    Fine, whatever, this one is fine. :p
  • edited February 2011
    doodo! wrote: »
    Again, I'm bored...Again this is a social concept, another social concept. It's mostly subjective issues, tastes, etc.

    LOL don't want to talk about objective vs subjective again.

    For example say I'm psychologically, emotionally attracted to a metal song, I hear a guy screaming but I hate how his voice cracks at the end of each scream. I am attracted to the beginning of his scream however. But the transition of one scream to the other, the space in between each segment of his voice I don't enjoy.

    When taken separately I do attract towards his voice, if re-arranged in a editior I might be attracted towards the entire song. On a flip side a female scream-o band might have better transitions and her voice may not crack as much at the end of a scream from its start, because she can hit higher notes without cracking her voice.

    We often seem to only socially psychologically take in some of the context of what we're attracted to, not attracted to, we don't seem to process the transitions and seams between the things we attract to. If everything is fluid then their must be transitions and seams.

    Do we note the beginning, end, middle? What exactly are we attracted to?How is it processed?

    Things continuously change, there's only a familiar psychological parallel arrangement to draw back to. Things are always changing psychologically, as you're always re-arranged, slightly re-organized psychologically yourself with each day you experience life on new life...

    Our psyches manifest on a fluid surface of ideas that shift from one person to another, one mood or another, one state to another even at times.


    Our feelings towards something are also fluid as the mind continues to process things, by breaking them down, or enforcing those things. So when having a emotional response/ attraction to something how do you validate a "true moment", a " pure response" to those things? It's all fluid, primary, secondary emotions, etc etc.

    And, if it is all fluid then how do you know when you truly experience something's essential value? How do you know?

    Is it only when the social archives of our psyche place something into a familiar context, or a socailly functional context, something we understand, use to survive, to socialize with others that our minds and feelings complete the picture, restrict it to form/ concept?

    If things are fluid they have a start and keep going, they have a initial. They have a once and original response.

    Does our subconscious collect all the fluid reality of something while our consciousness covers it up in layers? How exactly does this work? Are we a proper transmitter for reality, we seem to only function as human vessels, not well enough to actually define or transmit reality in it's actual pure state.

    You never experience all of something. Your brain absorbs only part of the content and 'fills in' the rest. This goes for visual transitions as well.
  • edited February 2011
    DAISHI,
    True, but is it possible to unsupress the initial response to something, even ideas that we think are the same throughout change to us because we're fluid, our minds/ brains contiously working ot maintain and function.

    Ideas are fluid they change without us even knowing it even when they appear to be the same ideas.


    We have primary and secondary emotions, etc etc, we're all fluid.

    Our minds have to put the segments together to create a context, to create a observation, to create a idea that's socially functional. But say if you were able to function beyond human context. Say you were able to discover the purity of life, the segments , or atleast break things down further to get to that point.

    Data is rearranged in the mind to make sense of it. To form a question, a statement, etc etc. If things are fluid there is a initial reponse to things that we long pass by.

    Even with the context of ideas, a social animal that we are, their might be intial ideas that our fluid consciousness alter and change even if we're not aware of the changes.

    I am close to theorizing but uncertain that the conditions of a idea must change, that a idea can not remain entirely the same in a fluid consciousness.
  • edited February 2011
    I believe the Greeks postulated this when they said a man cannot step into the same river twice.
  • edited February 2011
    DAISHI wrote: »
    I believe the Greeks postulated this when they said a man cannot step into the same river twice.

    Those Greeks were so philosphical...
    I think I want some of their wisdom printed on a tee shirt.:D
  • edited February 2011
    To keep it simple you're a more advanced flow-heater consisting of elements breed by suns.
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