when did Einstein come from?
Something that I'm having a hard time wrapping my brain around in these epsidoes is Einsteins timeline.
When einstein shows up at the beginning of episode 1, when does he come from? It can't be a later time travel Doc and marty make as the timeline does not work that way. If it is after doc is initially killed, how did he get ednas shoe? It doesnt seem like the shoe has been stolen yet from what we see.
Should there have been 2 einsteins in hill valley while marty was breaking doc out of jail?
Also why on earth did they leave einstein there? When they first leave 1931 (not realizing they are returning to a compromosed timeline), the plan is for doc and marty to return to 1986 and doc to iron out his estate. But einstein was with 1931 doc and not like 1986 doc can go back and pick him up from his younger self, he'd need marty to do that anyways so why did they bother leaving einstein there where a) it would mean they'd have to make another time travel b) they'd be putting einstein in danger leaving him in a foreign time period and c) potentially changing the timeline if einstein being with young doc somehow created a ripple effect
When einstein shows up at the beginning of episode 1, when does he come from? It can't be a later time travel Doc and marty make as the timeline does not work that way. If it is after doc is initially killed, how did he get ednas shoe? It doesnt seem like the shoe has been stolen yet from what we see.
Should there have been 2 einsteins in hill valley while marty was breaking doc out of jail?
Also why on earth did they leave einstein there? When they first leave 1931 (not realizing they are returning to a compromosed timeline), the plan is for doc and marty to return to 1986 and doc to iron out his estate. But einstein was with 1931 doc and not like 1986 doc can go back and pick him up from his younger self, he'd need marty to do that anyways so why did they bother leaving einstein there where a) it would mean they'd have to make another time travel b) they'd be putting einstein in danger leaving him in a foreign time period and c) potentially changing the timeline if einstein being with young doc somehow created a ripple effect
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Marty's mission was to break 1986 Doc out of jail with the rocket drill of 1931 Doc. Old Doc was sprung from jail by Kid and the plan changed. The hectic rescue happened (distraction #1) and then Marty fading away (distraction #2). The new mission was to save Arthur from being offed by Kid's gang. This was distraction #3. Three crazy distractions are going to make you forget simple things like retrieving your dog. So, Einstein was left alone in 1931 and sort of adopted by 1931 Doc.
Einstein was Emmett's lab rat and I can see how this could effect Emmett's timeline. For example, it could speed up the pace of Emmett's inventions but it wasn't addressed as a threat in the game. Doc didn't seem worried. At the end of the episode, they were calm and collected enough to remember to take Einstein with them. Yeah, it was dangerous to leave him there, but I doubt it was a factor in the Citizen Brown 1986. Or maybe...
They took Einstein away from Doc after he had him for 3 months, that must have really tore him.
Hmm.
HAHAHAHAHHAahahahaha!
I really didn't expect THIS explanation. Classic.
WHEN does he come from. Not WHERE, WHEN.
Do we actually know the failsafe happened a week later? I dont recall it being discussed that much in detail. Also if there's 2 einsteins even if they are in the same place, it's not a big deal. Einstein is a fairly common dog so it wouldn't be that odd to see although better hope the two einsteins dont fight!
Depending on how the speak easy arsonist plot plays out, it is also possible that einstein had stolen the shoe prior to doc's arrest and marty showing up. Edna doesn't tell marty that Einstein stole her shoe but if she is the arsonist (or implicated it) and this is how/why Einy stole it then it does make sense she would not tell him.
And having seen the episode a second time since then, Doc and Marty remark at the end how they remembered einstein so i will accept the fact they were simply caught in the moment and forgot the dog.
When Marty arrives in 1931, Einstein paws at Edna and she says, "That mangy dog assaulted me once before" before going into the store, griping and whining about how something's a law and we should look it up. It can be inferred that when Doc was thrown in jail, Einstein then assaulted Edna, took the shoe, and went back to the DeLorean. That way, if Doc was fine, he was sitting there ready to go home. If he wasn't, he would arrive in 1986 to find Marty.
I agree. I think Einstein went to go wait in the hidden past DeLorean, the one that Doc used to get to 1931 not the future present one that Marty used to return Einstein to 1931, and so this theory can explain away where Einstein was. As for where the past Doc's Delorean is hidden and just how he believes it would not be found in any of the split timelines beats me. Time travel is a head ache. I'm not surprised you've found possible holes in TellTale's story. Otherwise, I definitely believe that Einie stole Edna's shoe prior to Marty returning to 1931.
Here's another theory: what if Enie didn't go back with Doc? What if Doc assumes Einie came there with Marty and doesn't question how or when Marty came to collect Einie? I'm still thinking the intro tutorial of Episode 1 ties in somewhere and Einie popped into the time stream some time he wasn't supposed to during the movie's testing of the Delorean and possibly returned to that point in time by this game's end to avoid the paradox/collapsing of the space-time continuum as seen in Marty's dream. But now I'm just grasping at air here. Obviously Einie got Edna's shoe, so he was obviously in that time period at some point. Eh, time travel and plot holes! What you going to do?
Yes she did, she even kept the other shoe and puts them together.
And yes I buy into the recent point brought up; einy and edna obviously had a run in prior to marty arriving in 1931.
I know, but she was all like "oh, there's that shoe..." she didn't seem to notice or care that it was a brand new shoe, she just puts it with the other one because, I think she just assumed she misplaced it somewhere.
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Yes I know. Thats why Doc named his dog Einstein...because his dog was smarter than him and was the "first" time traveler.
Is it? I was gonna look it up to help this guy answer his question but apparently (and wierdly) some people know that off of the top of thier head!
I just want to know why she kept that shoe. She must have placed some special importance on the event that caused her to miss her other shoe.
The Delorean doesn't go back to Marty until the 16th of the month specified in 1931, 2 days after Doc was killed.
Would be a nice touch in the Episodes if they maybe show the origin of Einstein and how he became Docs dog to which we know as a key element in the game.
Are einstein and copernicus the same dog? I know in part III at the beginning, marty says to 1955 "Einstein, its what you call your doc in 1985" so I thought this COULD imply it's the same dog and he changed its name but still a dog living that long?
I think it's similar to Marty's name; he would have been named that anyhow but his parents met him in the past, liked the name and essentially named him after himself. So likewise emmet liked the dog einstein and eventually named his own einstiein.
Or maybe if einstein and copernicus are the same dog and doc just changed the name, perhaps he names him Einstein from the start now.
Einstein and Copernicus are different dogs. Either that, or 1985 Einstein is supernaturally peppy for a 30+ year old dog.
To paraphrase Morbo, BTTF Time Travel does not work that way.
I still don't think it'll happen though, but I wouldn't hate it if it did.
So its possible the dog changed its name. Who knows, they never really did go into this detail.
I could see most hardcore fans of BTTF choosing those IN GAME. (Planet Vulcan is a choice in one of the two episodes, if I recall.)
Now if only they had a mini section of the game.. where instead of Marty we control. We are using Einstein to do the task. =D
Just like how Mrs. Strickland's shoe was taken off by einstein in episode 2 when marty had to hide from himself.
I know you could be saying that maybe they just did it that way for "randomness" factor….but you'd think it was just randomly malfunctioning, the sequence would be different….
Fast answer; it probably saved a bit of time to have that same image animate twice. We're not going to see the year 2800, any future we see will likely be the 21st century.
Also...why 1986, why in that time was the delorean retrieval sistem is on. Also who's that woman outside of edna's house that stares at us??? Also why did we see the part of the movie with a differente situation and einstein not coming back from the mall?
HOPE THIS IS FOR SOMETHING, NOT JUST RANDOM STUFF...
Then again Past…Present…Future…IT'S ALL ALREADY HAPPENED! OR WILL HAPPEN! OR IS HAPPENING!? *brain melt*
Marty's dream at the start of episode 1 is yet to be really explained and it may be possible that it was somehow disrupted, resulting in him returning to the present with it never occurring...
Of course right now I have no idea how this could ever happen in any manner but that dream must have some meaning I think (especially from what Marty says to his dad) and the unspecified source of the delorean as well.
It's called the 'birds and the bugs' butthead! LOL! xDDDD
IIRC the last time we see Einstein in the game was near the end of episode 3. Up to that point einy had the same fate as doc: erased at the end of episode 2 when jumping to the present, showing up in FCB 1986 as an alternate version.
I guess the timeline changed around him?
Um, didn't u play Episode 5? We see Einstien in the final timeline in 1986, with Edna walking him (apparently, the nice Edna of the final timeline often took Einstien for walks, much to Doc and Marty's surprise).
My guess is that the Einstien of the new timeline never made the trips to 1931 from the first two episodes...same with the Doc of the new timeline.