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Under ground bases, what's the point?

doodo!doodo!
edited March 2011 in General Chat
I won't do with conspiracies, not of my own. I'm just curious what you all think about this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vS--u6rah6k&feature=related

It may sound a bit nonsensical but they had underground bases as far back as WWII. Just curious what your thoughts are, I'm not really providing anything new as the content is easy to find and already there.

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  • DAISHIDAISHI
    edited February 2011
    Bomb and fallout protection.
  • IrishmileIrishmile
    edited February 2011
    Well I think places that got bombed during wartime it is very practical.. It just seems strange in the US because even during WWII its not like people suffered from daily air assaults...
  • doodo!doodo!
    edited February 2011
    I'm not providing anything new here, this material is already on the net and easy to find. I'm wondering if anyone who knows the real reason for these bases can give me a answer, different perspective than people are fabricating. Any facts? Then again, it's hard to say what people know, but it's also hard to know who you're talking to.

    Is their any essential plan, intention for these bases that is being over seen by a large group or leader of some sort? Has any one official even claimed that they "truly" exist?

    I can think of a few logical reasons for a underground base, but I still have some questions. I'm using the word "questions" loosely, as I'm mostly just curious. Maybe I missed something, as I assume if some one "official", in the right state of mind, has claimed these bases exist, that the reason might come out, but that's not necessarily true.

    Yes, you may be right, if you detect a hint of conspiracy, paranoia, but this is a mirror to fiction. Large under ground bases...the mind runs wild, obviously, as it hasn't been tamed yet. So, it searches for answers.

    Regardless, without knowledge, perception can be useless some times, even when using common sense as a guide.

    So, what can any one tell me? Anything to tell?

    (What I posted on Y/A :D)
  • DAISHIDAISHI
    edited February 2011
    Are you aware of the Maginot Line?
  • doodo!doodo!
    edited February 2011
    DAISHI wrote: »
    Are you aware of the Maginot Line?

    Perhaps, but not by that name, and not by the name enough to know the full context of what it is by the name it has been given, for the name it has been given. :) I may have seen photos, I may have heard something about it. Awareness is hard to define.

    Do I know it by name, in a historical context, not in the direct sense, no.

    :p
  • GeorgeCGeorgeC
    edited February 2011
    Harder to get to for enemies?
    Fallout protection?
    Odd question to ask, no?
  • BlankCanvasDJBlankCanvasDJ
    edited February 2011
    An underground base offers additional protection from bombs, radiation and troop attacks.
    An underground base cannot be easily spotted by satellites, spy planes or enemy soldiers.
    An underground base cannot be easily sabotaged.
    An underground base has limited entrances that make it more easily defensible.
    An underground base can be built beneath previously existing military or civilian structures when there is limited land to work with.
    An underground base can include a tunnel system that can allow quick and reliable movement of troops and supplies without exposing them to risk of attack.
    An underground base can store dangerous materials that may be too risky to be kept above ground.

    There are dozens of logical reasons for an underground base. In fact, if they weren't so damned costly and difficult to build, people would probably prefer it over above-ground bases.
  • GeorgeCGeorgeC
    edited February 2011
    BlankCanvasDJ wrote: »
    An underground base offers additional protection from bombs, radiation and troop attacks.
    An underground base cannot be easily spotted by satellites, spy planes or enemy soldiers.
    An underground base cannot be easily sabotaged.
    An underground base has limited entrances that make it more easily defensible.
    An underground base can be built beneath previously existing military or civilian structures when there is limited land to work with.
    An underground base can include a tunnel system that can allow quick and reliable movement of troops and supplies without exposing them to risk of attack.
    An underground base can store dangerous materials that may be too risky to be kept above ground.

    There are dozens of logical reasons for an underground base. In fact, if they weren't so damned costly and difficult to build, people would probably prefer it over above-ground bases.

    You forgot having an underground base makes you feel like a BADASS!
    Good post though :D
  • DAISHIDAISHI
    edited February 2011
    The Maginot Line was constructed prior to WWII and the era of mass aerial bombing but utilized the Diocletian/Constantine principle of mobile warfare. In other words, rather than stock a mass of troops at any one point, disperse troops over multiple points with quick rally capability between critical junctures. Be able to reinforce a point from 200 men to 2,000 men in the space of hours, in other words. It made the Limes Line very hard to assault from a tribal perspective. The Maginot Line made use of underground railroad systems, communications and the like to fortify the eastern border of France. Had they bothered to extend it through the Ardennes it would have made it unlikely that the Germans would have taken France.

    However, the principle of quick mobility stands up 1,500 years after Rome's deployment of this defensive principle, but it has had to evolve with the times. These bases are capable of quick deployment, self sufficiency and closed line communications requiring no satellite communication.

    Why is the underground nature important?

    In the modern era of nuclear warfare, should a nuclear device be detonated in orbit above the U.S., the resulting electromagnetic pulse would result with the wipeout of all electronic devices and communications. Underground bases, on the other hand, are shielded by natural density and protective wiring to be able to maintain communications and electronic devices even when all above ground electronic devices have been wiped. This would enable military deployment from base to base even in the face of catastrophic loss of electronic capabilities above ground.

    These bases are last resort defenses. The higher military structure of the Pentagon, and the political establishment of Congress and the office of the President could be removed to (and indeed have a designated evacuation point) one of these bases in order to continue orderly government in the face of such events.
  • GaryCXJkGaryCXJk
    edited February 2011
    They shelter you from Creeper attacks while at the same time allow you to get close to the ore veins.
  • DAISHIDAISHI
    edited February 2011
    Also, the government needs to be careful not to dig too greedily, nor too deep.

    They run the risk of a Stalagmen uprising.
  • doodo!doodo!
    edited February 2011
    I was all caught up in the mysteriousness of it all and now I feel silly because everyone is like "DUH...."

    :D

    DAISHI, thank you. Great read.
  • DaviesDavies
    edited February 2011
    One of my friends really believes in all these conspiracy theories, one being the number of shelters. I've tried explaining to him the logical reasons for their existence (hello? We live in a world that's armed to the teeth! Think McFly, think!) but often there's no convincing people who buy into this BS. Of course, there's no need for shelters anyway because we'll all be dead by 2013 :rolleyes:
  • ScnewScnew
    edited February 2011
    The comments on that video scare me. Too many people actually believe that the world is going to end next year.

    Anyway, I understand that you build a base underground to protect it from other countries, sure. BUT WHAT ABOUT THE MOLE PEOPLE?
  • DaviesDavies
    edited March 2011
    Scnew wrote: »
    Too many people actually believe that the world is going to end next year.

    It's very sad because there have actually been a few kids who have committed suicide as a result because they felt there was no point going on. And for what?! Just so some slimy, sub-human f**k wit can make a bit of money by scaring people who don't know any better. :mad:

    If you are afraid then please take the time to read the following site, as it put together by people who know what they're talking about (i.e. it is based around scientific fact) and not some con-artist without a soul...

    This is a fantastic site that covers all aspects of the BS of 2012 and exposes the frauds for the scum they truly are.
  • taumeltaumel
    edited March 2011
    As you can't see them, they're suspicious.
  • ScnewScnew
    edited March 2011
    I don't really get why people buy into this idea in the first place. There is no logic to it. "The Mayan calendar ends in 2012." Okay, great. So maybe (maybe!) they thought that the world would end that year. Fine. But the Mayans also believed in a big feathery serpent god, and I haven't really seen many people lining up to worship Queztlcoatl. (Aztec name, I know, I forget the Mayan version)
  • DaviesDavies
    edited March 2011
    Scnew wrote: »
    I don't really get why people buy into this idea in the first place. There is no logic to it. "The Mayan calendar ends in 2012." Okay, great. So maybe (maybe!) they thought that the world would end that year. Fine. But the Mayans also believed in a big feathery serpent god, and I haven't really seen many people lining up to worship Queztlcoatl. (Aztec name, I know, I forget the Mayan version)

    The Mayan's didn't believe the world would end in 2012, that's just when their calendar ended and modern idiots interpreted that as meaning the end of the world. It is literally the same as someone looking at a 2011 calendar and seeing the it only goes up to December 31st and deciding that it means the world will end on that date.

    It's preposterous and if people would take 10 minutes to do a bit of research then nobody would fall for this crap in the first place. Also, 2012 isn't even when the Mayan's calendar ends, I think it's something like 2016. God, there's some idiots out there.
  • taumeltaumel
    edited March 2011
    Scnew wrote: »
    I don't really get why people buy into this idea in the first place. There is no logic to it. "The Mayan calendar ends in 2012." Okay, great. So maybe (maybe!) they thought that the world would end that year. Fine. But the Mayans also believed in a big feathery serpent god, and I haven't really seen many people lining up to worship Queztlcoatl. (Aztec name, I know, I forget the Mayan version)

    You mean like with religion or astrology?
  • waroftheworlds01waroftheworlds01
    edited March 2011
    I always thought that the point of underground bases was to have bases underground. :)

    But seriously, underground bases are a lot more secreat than say, a big building in the middle of no where.

    EDIT: Oh, and 2012 is nothing more than a myth . Like Davies says, its sad when people actually takes these myths to the extream. A bit of research into the whole thing goes a long way.
  • rubygloommelrubygloommel
    edited March 2011
    waroftheworlds01 wrote: »
    EDIT: Oh, and 2012 is nothing more than a myth . Like Davies says, its sad when people actually takes these myths to the extream. A bit of research into the whole thing goes a long way.

    Some people'll believe anything - it's like the whole Nostadamus thing, he only ever seems to have predicted something, after it's already happened :/ From what I know, a prediction usually happens BEFORE something happens, you know, it PREDICTS something :P

    Also that whole thing with emos killing themselves to join the 'Black Parade'...but I think my friend may have been trying to mess with me on that one :P
  • GaryCXJkGaryCXJk
    edited March 2011
    2012 is just the end of the world as we know it. You know, New World Order and shit.
  • Comrade PantsComrade Pants
    edited March 2011
    Control+F and Vault surprisingly yielded no results in a video game forum thread about underground bases. Weird.
  • ScnewScnew
    edited March 2011
    Duh. The U.S. won't commission Vault-Tec to build the Vaults until 2077.
  • KlatuuKlatuu
    edited March 2011
    Well, Underground bases would make playing baseball much more difficult.
  • doodo!doodo!
    edited March 2011
    Klatuu wrote: »
    Well, Underground bases would make playing baseball much more difficult.

    Not really, do you know how big they are inside? I get your joke though, under ground bases, ha ha...
  • Comrade PantsComrade Pants
    edited March 2011
    Scnew wrote: »
    Duh. The U.S. won't commission Vault-Tec to build the Vaults until 2077.

    Ah, right. Of course.
  • waroftheworlds01waroftheworlds01
    edited March 2011
    However, just to be safe I booked a room in Vault 101 just in case sh*t does goes down in 2012
  • ScnewScnew
    edited March 2011
    I booked a room in Vault 69, jealous?
  • Comrade PantsComrade Pants
    edited March 2011
    I'm in Vault 34. U guise jelly?
  • DAISHIDAISHI
    edited March 2011
    Effin magnets, how do they work?
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