Anybody want to leave the planet? No I'm serious.

edited April 2011 in General Chat
I'm just going to leave this here...
http://www.virgingalactic.com/booking/

Private sector space flight, the wave of the future. Now we just need to establish colonies on other planets and I'd sign up for that :)

What do you think of this? If you had the money would you sign up for it? Discuss.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPJSlI4XXhE
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  • JenniferJennifer Moderator
    edited April 2011
    I'd love to travel to space if I had the money. If I really had a bunch of money, I'd really like to spend a week at one of the future space hotels. :D
  • edited April 2011
    You know what the main problem of leaving the Earth is going to be?

    Having to come back again! :p
  • edited April 2011
    I wouldn't come back.
  • edited April 2011
    No. Space is for people who like doing things you do in space, floating around, eating airline food, more floating arounding, watering potted plants.
  • edited April 2011
    I wouldn't want to do it. I'm afraid of something going wrong and blowing up. It's happened before. Remember that crew with the teacher on board?

    I'm actually scared of flying although I can't really say for sure cause I've never been on a plane. I'm scared to travel by air anyway. I know they say it's the safest way to travel but I'll take my chances on land anyday.
  • edited April 2011
    Space itself is kinda meh. I'd like to see other planets eventually.
  • edited April 2011
    I think id just keep the 200 grand for not going to space and gamble it
  • edited April 2011
    My friend wants to go into space, but I don't see the point really. It'll look just the same from up there as it does from down here.
  • edited April 2011
    Only if I can get a BattleMech or a wookiee co-pilot.
  • edited April 2011
    Have 200 grand.
    Buy DeSoto.
    Paint job to Sam and Max DeSoto.
    Gain envy of telltale member who went to space.
    ????
    Profit.
  • puzzleboxpuzzlebox Telltale Alumni
    edited April 2011
    Not a chance. For $200,000 there are SO MANY amazing things I could see and do on our own little planet. I'd much rather spend that money having adventures around the world, rather than a brief trip off it.

    Money aside, the idea of being in space frightens me. I don't know if it's a form of claustrophobia or what, but I'm pretty scared of being reliant on man-made contraptions to breathe (same reason I've never been scuba diving, although I'll almost certainly try that eventually). Also, I've seen far too many space disasters in sci-fi movies/TV (not to mention the real-life blowups) for a trip into space to be relaxing.
    jeeno0142 wrote: »
    My friend wants to go into space, but I don't see the point really. It'll look just the same from up there as it does from down here.

    Not quite true. You'd be able to see Earth in all its magnificent insignifigance... and that would be rather cool.
  • edited April 2011
    puzzlebox wrote: »
    Not quite true. You'd be able to see Earth in all its magnificent insignifigance... and that would be rather cool.

    That's true, and I had thought of it, but having that as the only thing you can really see would get dull. As far as I'm concerned, it's just a ball. I'd much rather go into different countries and see the landscapes and architecture up close. That way I could see the real beauty of the Earth, and of those who inhabit it.
  • edited April 2011
    Going to space sounds cool, but sudden, messy decompression does not.

    More thought will be required on this.
  • edited April 2011
    I would go to space and moan that there's not a lot to do. Not even joking here
  • edited April 2011
    JedExodus wrote: »
    I would go to space and moan...

    In space.... noone can hear your boredom...
  • edited April 2011
    I would absolutely love to go on a trip like that, but not for that price. There is so much you can do for that amount of money... Trips to places I haven't been, for instance.

    I'd be a bit nervous, I guess, but I think I'd be more excited than nervous. I guess I'd feel safer if there had been commercial travels for decades just like for other things. But really, I'm freaked out every time I take a plane that it will crash and I'll die, and I don't see why it would be worse in space. The worst case scenario remains the same: we crash and I die. And apparently more people die in elevator crashes than plane crashes, or something.

    I wouldn't be worried about depending on human-made things, because you do on the plane too (there isn't air to breathe outside either) and I've gone scuba diving, to take Puzzle's example. And I've been in trains that went under a sea or a mountain. All of these have big potentials for disasters. Same with rollercoasters...

    In other words, I think the thrill of it would be greater than the fear about it, and it would make it worth it. But only if it was much, much cheaper or I was much, much richer. And still, probably not the second one, because there is so much I could invest money in that would be more worth it.

    EDIT: also, if there IS an accident, there is a chance I'd end up on another planet as a God.
  • edited April 2011
    If I'm going into space in my lifetime, I'd rather the trip be more than just sub-orbital.
  • edited April 2011
    What happens if you go insane after reaching space? what if you get...space madness? how do you know you won't be traveling with a few psychos that intend to open the spaceship door and push you out?

    How do you know you're not all test subjects??? Plus they've gotten $200,000 off you as well to cover their asses if something goes wrong.
  • edited April 2011
    Lonnie wrote: »
    What happens if you go insane after reaching space? what if you get...space madness? how do you know you won't be traveling with a few psychos that intend to open the spaceship door and push you out?

    How do you know you're not all test subjects??? Plus they've gotten $200,000 off you as well to cover their asses if something goes wrong.
    No astronaut yet has shown symptoms of Space Madness, and they've gone farther than any currently planned Virgin Galactic flight ever will. More than that, people who can pay $200,000 to go into space don't seem likely to then use that $200,000 ticket to kill others whose only link is that they too can afford obscenely expensive luxuries. It seems that, if you wanted to use $200,000 to kill people, you could do a lot better than SpaceshipTwo's 8-man capacity(6 passengers, 2 pilots). And certainly, Virgin Galactic isn't going to pocket all $200,000. Commercial space flight is hardly an all-profit business, with a lot of technology, maintenance, R&D, labor, and other costs. I don't know how much they get to actually keep, but they're hardly going to turn around from a 6-passenger flight with $1,200,000 to spend. Furthermore, if you wanted to screw somebody over through the legal system, the family and loved ones of a person who can spend $200,000 on crazy leisure activities may not be the best target.
  • edited April 2011
    No astronaut yet has shown symptoms of Space Madness, and they've gone farther than any currently planned Virgin Galactic flight ever will. More than that, people who can pay $200,000 to go into space don't seem likely to then use that $200,000 ticket to kill others whose only link is that they too can afford obscenely expensive luxuries. It seems that, if you wanted to use $200,000 to kill people, you could do a lot better than SpaceshipTwo's 8-man capacity(6 passengers, 2 pilots). And certainly, Virgin Galactic isn't going to pocket all $200,000. Commercial space flight is hardly an all-profit business, with a lot of technology, maintenance, R&D, labor, and other costs. I don't know how much they get to actually keep, but they're hardly going to turn around from a 6-passenger flight with $1,200,000 to spend. Furthermore, if you wanted to screw somebody over through the legal system, the family and loved ones of a person who can spend $200,000 on crazy leisure activities may not be the best target.


    This space travel thing sounds like madness to me tho. I mean, this is the first commercial trip (whenever its gunna take place) to SPACE for Christ sake. Something is bound to go wrong. Someone will have a panic attack and do the lot of them in lol.

    HERES a much better idea Virgin, wont don't you acquire funding to send all the worlds murderers etc into space????? I.e forever.
  • edited April 2011
    Lonnie wrote: »
    This space travel thing sounds like madness to me tho. I mean, this is the first commercial trip (whenever its gunna take place) to SPACE for Christ sake.
    No, that was SpaceShipOne back in 2004. Which, despite being the " first commercial trip ([in 2004]) to SPACE", with something about the benefit of an Abrahamic figure, nobody died. In fact, though we've sent over 600 people into space so far, only 18 have died during actual missions.
    Lonnie wrote: »
    Something is bound to go wrong. Someone will have a panic attack and do the lot of them in lol.
    Not only do I not see how that's an amusing scenario, but it's also extremely unlikely. I've yet to find a single case, even in fiction, in which people were filled with a homicidal rage due to being in space. No similar effects have been noted in the first manned airplane flights, nor the first submarine excursions. The worst psychological effects come from prolonged isolation, which isn't a factor here as these are short, sub-orbital trips.
    Lonnie wrote: »
    HERES a much better idea Virgin, wont don't you acquire funding to send all the worlds murderers etc into space????? I.e forever.
    First of all, that's a horrifically inaccurate use of i.e.

    Second of all, the big problem in post-judicial law enforcement is keeping costs DOWN. A $200,000 or so ticket is hardly economical.

    Thirdly, as the Virgin Galactic isn't an orbital ship, the thing would just crash and explode. Whether or not you're against capital punishment, spending an assload of money to send criminals into space just so that they can die in a crash(taking two capable pilots with them) is hardly the most efficient means of execution.

    Fourth, prison escapes aren't even that bad of a problem, on the whole. That is, they are not terribly common enough that "launch our problems into space at great cost to the taxpayer" is a "much better idea" than actually making a profit and creating high-level jobs for very skilled people and creating a new industry that adds value to the world.
  • edited April 2011
    No, that was SpaceShipOne back in 2004. Which, despite being the " first commercial trip ([in 2004]) to SPACE", with something about the benefit of an Abrahamic figure, nobody died. In fact, though we've sent over 600 people into space so far, only 18 have died during actual missions.


    Not only do I not see how that's an amusing scenario, but it's also extremely unlikely. I've yet to find a single case, even in fiction, in which people were filled with a homicidal rage due to being in space. No similar effects have been noted in the first manned airplane flights, nor the first submarine excursions. The worst psychological effects come from prolonged isolation, which isn't a factor here as these are short, sub-orbital trips.

    Lol, awesome, 'Homicidal Rage', that would be a great title for a space travel movie of some kind hahahaha.

    Well, I'm just saying, unforeseen things do happen.
  • edited April 2011
    They wouldn't be unforeseen if you foresaw them. You could say that "improbable things do happen", but last time I checked probable things tend to happen more often than improbable things. For some reason.
  • edited April 2011
    Ok, well, just saying that these dudes will be going into SPACE. This isn't the norm.

    Edit-I sure as hell would be quite friggin nervous going for a trip into space, I'd have to pop a few Valiums before i went and take a few lagers with me.
  • edited April 2011
    This particular ride isn't that appealing to me, as you don't go very deep into space at all.
    I'd be much more interested in some serious space travel, like going to the moon (not necessarily landing, just cruising around it or something would work just fine :D).

    However, the only way I'd spend such big sums on something like this would be if I was seriously rich, more money than I'd know what to do with.
    If I was in a financial situation like that, where spending an amount like that would be something I would hardly feel... then most certainly, I'd sign up for space travel.

    It does feel quite fascinating and would certainly be an extremely interesting and memorable experience :o
  • edited April 2011
    er....wtf.....did you edit your post rather dashing....ok i see you have...hang on...let me re-read it now and get back to you.
  • edited April 2011
    Lonnie wrote: »
    Ok, well, just saying that these dudes will be going into SPACE. This isn't the norm.
    Nor is skydiving. Nor is scaling Mount Everest. Nor is scuba diving, riding in a submarine, flying in an airplane, bungie-jumping, rappelling, etc. What makes space so fucking special?
    Lonnie wrote: »
    Edit-I sure as hell would be quite friggin nervous going for a trip into space
    What? YOU have TROUBLE WITH THE IDEA OF GOING INTO SPACE?!

    I...

    WOW.

    I never would have guessed!

    This is a SHOCKER.
  • edited April 2011
    Nor is skydiving. Nor is scaling Mount Everest. Nor is scuba diving, riding in a submarine, flying in an airplane, bungie-jumping, rappelling, etc. What makes space so fucking special?


    What? YOU have TROUBLE WITH THE IDEA OF GOING INTO SPACE?!

    I...

    WOW.

    I never would have guessed!

    This is a SHOCKER.

    ERRRR........I dunno...let me see.....re-entering earths atmosphere for a start.... its fucking unnatural (yeh yeh so is bunjy jumping ETC BUT AT LEAST I know what would happen to me should thing go wrong (GRAVITY)....

    There might be a hole in the craft causing my innards to be sucked out quicker than a Dyson vacuum cleaner.

    You're making it sound like a breeze, this space travel malarkey.

    Edit-actually would i get sucked out a hole in space...or would i implode, or....eeeeeeeeeeeeh. MEH.
  • edited April 2011
    I am willing to go into space, provided its in a time tested Firefly Class interplanetary ship or a trusty TARDIS.
  • edited April 2011
    I would actually be slightly less scared of space travel than other "extreme" type activities simply because there are smarter people involved in the whole process.

    But, I wouldn't want to spend two hundred grand on a simple up and back trip. I expect vacation to Mars for that amount of money.
  • edited April 2011
    I would actually be slightly less scared of space travel than other "extreme" type activities simply because there are smarter people involved in the whole process.

    Good point. Still, think of those rockets that failed and blew up/fell apart etc.

    But, I wouldn't want to spend two hundred grand on a simple up and back trip. I expect vacation to Mars for that amount of money.

    Good point. Still, think of those rockets that failed and blew up/fell apart etc.

    Edit-surely with smarter people involved the more dangerous it is/becomes?? I.e smarter minds create more powerful things.
  • edited April 2011
    Lonnie wrote: »
    ERRRR........I dunno...let me see.....re-entering earths atmosphere for a start.... its fucking unnatural (yeh yeh so is bunjy jumping ETC BUT AT LEAST I know what would happen to me should thing go wrong (GRAVITY)....

    There might be a hole in the craft causing my innards to be sucked out quicker than a Dyson vacuum cleaner.

    You're making it sound like a breeze, this space travel malarkey.

    Edit-actually would i get sucked out a hole in space...or would i implode, or....eeeeeeeeeeeeh. MEH.

    You watch too much sci-fi B movies.
  • edited April 2011
    Lonnie wrote: »
    ERRRR........I dunno...let me see.....re-entering earths atmosphere for a start.... its fucking unnatural
    Something not being "natural" is hardly a point against a thing. Shoes aren't natural, nor is the internet, nor are the vast majority of our medical advances.
    (yeh yeh so is bunjy jumping ETC BUT AT LEAST I know what would happen to me should thing go wrong (GRAVITY)....
    We know quite well the medical risks of going into space. The fact that you have deigned it unnecessary to research them does not mean they are not known to anyone else.
    Lonnie wrote: »
    There might be a hole in the craft causing my innards to be sucked out quicker than a Dyson vacuum cleaner.
    Considering it would take a long time for a Dyson vacuum cleaner to suck out your innards, that's hardly impressive. In fact, it would probably get stuck at some point, as it was mostly designed to remove dust and other small particles from rugs and carpets, and "human organs" simply aren't a normal house-cleaning concern.
    You're making it sound like a breeze, this space travel malarkey.
    No, I'm making it sound like a trip whose main dangers are accounted for by very intelligent people, leading to a death rate that makes going into space far safer on a per-person basis than other activities that are engaged in every day by normal people, such as "staying at home".
    Edit-actually would i get sucked out a hole in space...or would i implode, or....eeeeeeeeeeeeh. MEH.
    "If I fly in an airplane and it stalls, my brain will explode!"

    See, I can make stuff up too.

    If there was a hole in the craft and your body was exposed to the vacuum of space, your body would operate as normal. The problem is that when lungs operate normally, they expel gases and take them in. Lack of gas means they would just expel them. You would lose consciousness after about 10 seconds, the normal amount of time it takes blood to reach the brain. You would then die in a matter of about two minutes, unless a normal atmosphere was re-established before the point after which it became lethal. Of the 600+ people who have entered space, less than 10 have died from this.
  • edited April 2011
    Lonnie wrote: »
    HERES a much better idea Virgin, wont don't you acquire funding to send all the worlds murderers etc into space????? I.e forever.

    actually the best idea is for you not to double post
  • edited April 2011
    Lonnie wrote: »
    Good point. Still, think of those rockets that failed and blew up/fell apart etc.

    Edit-surely with smarter people involved the more dangerous it is/becomes?? I.e smarter minds create more powerful things.

    The smarter the people involved are, the more likely they are to anticipate things that can go wrong and the less likely they are to make mistakes. However, like everything else, mistakes are possible. But mistakes are possible with every extreme activity. Regardless if you are bungee jumping and the bungee cord breaks or if you are in a spaceship that suddenly has a whole lot less air than it did previously, the end result is still the same. You die.

    Actually, the space version would probably be more preferable as you would be unconscious for most of it.
  • edited April 2011
    leaving the planet on "Vigin Galactic" eh? where would we is start at? (on the calander)
  • edited April 2011
    Something not being "natural" is hardly a point against a thing. Shoes aren't natural, nor is the internet, nor are the vast majority of our medical advances.


    We know quite well the medical risks of going into space. The fact that you have deigned it unnecessary to research them does not mean they are not known to anyone else.


    Considering it would take a long time for a Dyson vacuum cleaner to suck out your innards, that's hardly impressive. In fact, it would probably get stuck at some point, as it was mostly designed to remove dust and other small particles from rugs and carpets, and "human organs" simply aren't a normal house-cleaning concern.


    No, I'm making it sound like a trip whose main dangers are accounted for by very intelligent people, leading to a death rate that makes going into space far safer on a per-person basis than other activities that are engaged in every day by normal people, such as "staying at home".


    "If I fly in an airplane and it stalls, my brain will explode!"

    See, I can make stuff up too.

    If there was a hole in the craft and your body was exposed to the vacuum of space, your body would operate as normal. The problem is that when lungs operate normally, they expel gases and take them in. Lack of gas means they would just expel them. You would lose consciousness after about 10 seconds, the normal amount of time it takes blood to reach the brain. You would then die in a matter of about two minutes, unless a normal atmosphere was re-established before the point after which it became lethal. Of the 600+ people who have entered space, less than 10 have died from this.

    Do you work for Myth Busters? Doesn't matter what you try and prove, its gunna be dangerous as hell, going into space. Why do you think it costs so much money? Everything in place, every precaution.

    I'm thinking re-entering earths atmosphere is more dangerous than the take off into space now.
  • edited April 2011
    Giant Tope wrote: »
    You watch too much sci-fi B movies.

    There is no such thing as watching too many sci-fi B movies.
  • edited April 2011
    Lonnie wrote: »
    Do you work for Myth Busters? Doesn't matter what you try and prove, its gunna be dangerous as hell, going into space. Why do you think it costs so much money? Everything in place, every precaution.
    Going to Disneyworld costs a good deal of money, but it's not more expensive than, say, driving into the bad part of town and punching people indiscriminatingly, a fairly cheap activity. There are tons of things that cost a great deal of money. High-end art auctions, black tie charity events, flying in a private jet, renting or owning a limo, buying a relatively large house/mansion, etc, and yet nobody questions them based on their safety. This is because this is how much value people see in the thing. While I'm sure safety considerations take up some amount of the cost, as they do with any form of high-speed transportation(cars, airplanes, boats, jet-skis, etc), a lot of it also has to do with R&D, materials, labor(they need at least two pilots good enough to fly spaceships, I doubt this is cheap), marketing, etc. Besides, isn't that a GOOD thing? Would you prefer a CHEAP spacecraft that DIDN'T do a great number of checks to be sure everything was go before they took off?

    Let's be a bit generous and say 600 people have gone into space. 18 people have died during space missions. In all, that is a 3% death rate. This puts it behind MANY causes of death per person, including things within the home such as Carbon Monoxide poisoning or things considered relatively safe like riding bicycles.

    See, there are certain activities that people see as "especially dangerous". These include things like skydiving and suba, as these activities have a high cost of failure. The thing is that, due to those, the precautions made, deaths by skydiving are less than those by skiing or being struck by lightning.

    Making shit up and then saying "No matter what FACTS you bring to the table, WHAT I SAY IS RIGHT" only makes you come off as ignorant and arrogant about being ignorant. I can say "KEVIN BACON WAS *NOT* IN FOOTLOOSE, AND NO MATTER WHAT YOU TRY AND PROVE, HE WAS NOT EVER INVOLVED IN THAT PRODUCTION", but it comes off as ridiculous to anyone else who takes even a cursory glance at actual facts.
    I'm thinking re-entering earths atmosphere is more dangerous than the take off into space now.
    Take off has taken seven people. Re-entry has killed 7 people. 3 died while in space due to decompression. 1 died in a crash after re-entry. Unless you count the crash after re-entry, they're exactly equally dangerous. If you do count it, the greater danger based on previous deaths is statistically insignificant.
  • edited April 2011
    Going to Disneyworld costs a good deal of money, but it's not more expensive than, say, driving into the bad part of town and punching people indiscriminatingly, a fairly cheap activity. There are tons of things that cost a great deal of money. High-end art auctions, black tie charity events, flying in a private jet, renting or owning a limo, buying a relatively large house/mansion, etc, and yet nobody questions them based on their safety. This is because this is how much value people see in the thing. While I'm sure safety considerations take up some amount of the cost, as they do with any form of high-speed transportation(cars, airplanes, boats, jet-skis, etc), a lot of it also has to do with R&D, materials, labor(they need at least two pilots good enough to fly spaceships, I doubt this is cheap), marketing, etc. Besides, isn't that a GOOD thing? Would you prefer a CHEAP spacecraft that DIDN'T do a great number of checks to be sure everything was go before they took off?

    Let's be a bit generous and say 600 people have gone into space. 18 people have died during space missions. In all, that is a 3% death rate. This puts it behind MANY causes of death per person, including things within the home such as Carbon Monoxide poisoning or things considered relatively safe like riding bicycles.

    See, there are certain activities that people see as "especially dangerous". These include things like skydiving and suba, as these activities have a high cost of failure. The thing is that, due to those, the precautions made, deaths by skydiving are less than those by skiing or being struck by lightning.

    Making shit up and then saying "No matter what FACTS you bring to the table, WHAT I SAY IS RIGHT" only makes you come off as ignorant and arrogant about being ignorant. I can say "KEVIN BACON WAS *NOT* IN FOOTLOOSE, AND NO MATTER WHAT YOU TRY AND PROVE, HE WAS NOT EVER INVOLVED IN THAT PRODUCTION", but it comes off as ridiculous to anyone else who takes even a cursory glance at actual facts.


    Take off has taken seven people. Re-entry has killed 7 people. 3 died while in space due to decompression. 1 died in a crash after re-entry. Unless you count the crash after re-entry, they're exactly equally dangerous. If you do count it, the greater danger based on previous deaths is statistically insignificant.

    So you don't beleive its dangerous???? thats all I'm asking. You're telling me you would have absolutely no worries going into space yeh?

    Have you actually checked out the spaceship that people are paying $200,000 to travel in?

    What about if things do go wrong? What then? all i read on that website was hey do you wanna fly to space? Then give us a $20,000 deposit.

    Edit-I'm gunna laugh if you go on the trip and you run into trouble on board.
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