New Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy-game by Hothead Games

edited August 2011 in General Chat
Hothead just announced a new game based on Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy. They set up a small teaser site (is that the voice of the original Arthur Dent, Simon Jones?): http://www.thenewhitchhikersguide.com/. Not much is known about the title just yet, but with E3 so close it wouldn't surprise me if more information is coming very soon.

On the one hand I'm very happy that there's a new Hitchhikers game, but I'm not sure if Hothead is the right company for it. What a Hitchhikers game needs, above all, is extremely good writing. I'm not sure if Hothead has writers that can come near Douglas Adams's level. Their games are pretty fun, but the writing (I guess I can only look at Deathspank, because every word of the Penny Arcade games was written by Jerry Holkins) is, in my opinion, pretty bad. And even if you enjoy Deathspank's humor, it's nothing like the kind of comedy you'll find in the Hitchhiker radio plays/books.

Anyway, maybe I'm being too pessimistic. I'm happy that this game is coming out at all, so let's stay positive for now.

Oh, and if someone from Telltale is reading this: get the Discworld license before Hothead gets their hands on it. Terry is still alive, and there are more movies and a television series coming soon, so get it before the rest of the videogame world realises what a perfect franchise it is.
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  • edited May 2011
    Honestly, not all that psyched for this. The original text adventure is, by far, the best possible game for this series. I honestly can't imagine a great Hitchhiker's game that is NOT a text adventure. I might be wrong, or too axed on the book iteration of the series, or too fond of text adventures, though. I'll pay attention when it comes time for them to release more details, but for now I am just left wondering why I should care.
  • edited May 2011
    Tjibbbe wrote: »
    Oh, and if someone from Telltale is reading this: get the Discworld license before Hothead gets their hands on it. Terry is still alive, and there are more movies and a television series coming soon, so get it before the rest of the videogame world realises what a perfect franchise it is.

    Quoted for truth.

    I loved the old Discworld games, and would love to see more of the series.

    EDIT: I also thought the Hitchhiker movie was pretty good as well.
  • edited May 2011
    Not sure how to feel about this.

    As far as I'm concerned, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy should've died when Douglas Adams did. Adams had a very unique sense of humor, and it'd be difficult for any other person to properly imitate it. I'll give the movie a pass since Adams wrote most of the script before he died, but the very idea behind "And Another Thing..." just doesn't sit well with me.

    I wonder if this new game will be an adventure game. And perhaps more importantly, will it be as ridiculously difficult as the old Infocom text adventure?
  • edited May 2011
    I think you can do more with Hitchhikers than just the text adventure. I never really liked any of the games Douglas Adams worked on, because he was better at thinking of funny concepts for games than he was at thinking of games that are actually fun (or at least, not completely frustrating) to play. This goes for Hitchhikers, Starship Titanic and Labyrinth.

    The only way that I could be really interested in this is if they somehow got the surviving members of the original voice cast of the original radio series that the first couple of books are based on. I can't count the amount of times I've listened to those tapes (and later cd's). Like many fans I started with the books, but after discovering the radio series it's hard for me to go back to just the books (although I still like those as well).

    If no one from the original series (or even Dirk Maggs, who did a brilliant job with the new radio series back in 2004 and 2005) is involved, I guess I'm not interested as well, for pretty much the same reason why I avoided the new book by Eoin Colfer.
  • edited May 2011
    I'm hyped for this. Haven't played DeathSpank but I greatly enjoyed Penny Arcade Precipice episodes. I'm pretty sure they'll nail the humor and the characters on this one, too, from what I've seen the writers working in Hothead are pretty clever gents. It won't probably be something classic, but from Hothead Games I expect something really entertaining.
  • edited May 2011
    I disagree entirely. Hithchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy and Starship Titanic are among my favorite games of all time. Labyrinth, well, less so, but Adams' ideas for it were simply brilliant, including an opening sequence that plays entirely differently and more narratively than the rest of the game(a Wizard of Oz moment if there ever was one). Starship Titanic had a level of interactivity that is entirely unmatched in games of its type, an ingenious parser, and is simply one of the most impressive games ever developed. The games are absurdly difficult,but they're not "unfair" by any means. At least, not for the majority of the run of it.
  • edited May 2011
    I never understood the hate for the film, as it was my introduction to the Hitchhiker's Universe and I've only recently started reading the books (onto Life, the Universe, and Everything now), so I'm excite. Martin Freeman isn't busy, is he? (that was a joke)
  • edited May 2011
    I disagree entirely. Hithchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy and Starship Titanic are among my favorite games of all time. Labyrinth, well, less so, but Adams' ideas for it were simply brilliant, including an opening sequence that plays entirely differently and more narratively than the rest of the game(a Wizard of Oz moment if there ever was one). Starship Titanic had a level of interactivity that is entirely unmatched in games of its type, an ingenious parser, and is simply one of the most impressive games ever developed. The games are absurdly difficult,but they're not "unfair" by any means. At least, not for the majority of the run of it.

    Funny? Yes. Good games? No. Even Douglas himself admitted that he never really liked any of the games he worked on. I really enjoy reading about his ideas for the games, and they make for pretty great reads, but playing those games isn't an enjoyable experience, at least for me. They felt like the Hitchhikers television series to me: a lot of great ideas (the documentaries on how they created the special effects on that series are amazing), but without the proper execution it's all just a bit of a mess. Douglas was always at his best on the radio or on paper (it's a terrible shame he couldn't join Stephen Fry on the television sequel to their 'Last Chance to See'-radio show, probably the best thing he ever created). The only game I liked to play was Bureaucracy, I have fond memories of that one. The game being impossible was actually part of the experience in that game.

    I can't imagine a new game being just text, even if Douglas was alive today. He was always going on about the beauty of new technology. Probably the reason why his ideas tended to be a bit ahead of what was possible a that time.
  • edited May 2011
    Ribs wrote: »
    I never understood the hate for the film
    The distaste is very well-explained here, in both short and analytical long-form, if you are actually curious.
  • edited May 2011
    Ribs wrote: »
    I never understood the hate for the film, as it was my introduction to the Hitchhiker's Universe

    That's exactly why, try reading the books and enjoying the radio series and to a lesser extent the TV series for 20 odd years and you'll see why the movie, which did have a couple of redeeming features I'll give you, was to most people bloody awful.

    the entire Magrathea sequence was breathtaking and I always enjoy it when I get to that bit but what they did to the 'lying in the mud' scene was quite simply unforgivable to reduce such a great piece of writing to Ford turns up with beer still makes me weep.
  • edited May 2011
    No. Just no. Douglas Adams has passed on (R.I.P.) and his works are sacred. Sacrilege I say, sacrilege.

    P.S. The movie sucked donkey balls big time. Long live the books, radio and TV series.

    Bah! Humbug.
  • edited May 2011
    Hothead did a great job on Penny Arcade Adventures. Why can't they just continue that?
  • edited May 2011
    There doesn't seem to be much information out, but is this going to be an actual adventure game or a Penny Arcade Adventures style game?
  • edited May 2011
    :D :D I am happy
  • edited May 2011
    The distaste is very well-explained here, in both short and analytical long-form, if you are actually curious.

    Brilliant! He mentions the mud scene!

    I get your stance on BTTF now, I felt exactly the same way about the movie and refused to listen when anyone said differently; often very loudly and for rather long periods of time.

    btw thank you for that link :) it's one review I'd not read before and was well worth it. Definitely the closest I've found to why I feel the movie failed.

    I hope the developers have read that review.
  • edited May 2011
    Hrm. I enjoyed the movie when I rewatched it late last year, but then again I'm just getting to the books now. Maybe the next time I watch it I'll look down on it more, but I will say I did like the BBC TV Show version more then the film, if that's anything.
  • edited May 2011
    You are in for such a treat. I wish I could read them for the first time again.
  • edited May 2011
    I Started with the books, And then the radio series, then the TV Series, then the movie. I still love the movie, My favorite is the radio series, Mostly because of Marvin playing Pink Floyd at one point. I don't think the movie is at all bad, because it feels like it's exactly what Douglas Adams would have done.

    In all honestly, I thought the gift of beer was better than Mr. Prosser lying down in the mud.
  • edited May 2011
    Hothead did a great job on Penny Arcade Adventures. Why can't they just continue that?

    The fact that Telltale has done episodic gaming right can sometimes cause us to forget that other developers have done it...not as right.

    Many episodic series (Penny Arcade Adventures included) are made with only enough budget for one or two episodes. So the developer makes those episodes, then assumes the money made from sales of the early episodes will pay for the later ones. This usually doesn't work out.

    Episodes 1 and 2 of Precipice didn't sell well enough to justify Episodes 3 and 4. From what I understand Gabe and Tycho found the whole game design process pretty exhausting too.
  • edited May 2011
    Remolay wrote: »
    In all honestly, I thought the gift of beer was better than Mr. Prosser lying down in the mud.

    Really?!? oh well no worries :)
  • puzzleboxpuzzlebox Telltale Alumni
    edited May 2011
    I've not played anything from Hothead, so I'll remain cautiously optimistic (optimistically sceptical?) until we get to see more.
    Hithchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy and Starship Titanic are among my favorite games of all time.

    I'm curious, what did you particularly like about Starship Titanic? I never quite managed to get into it.
    Tjibbbe wrote: »
    Douglas was always at his best on the radio or on paper (it's a terrible shame he couldn't join Stephen Fry on the television sequel to their 'Last Chance to See'-radio show, probably the best thing he ever created).

    "Last Chance to See" (the original) is a fantastic read too.
  • edited May 2011
    puzzlebox wrote: »
    I'm curious, what did you particularly like about Starship Titanic? I never quite managed to get into it.
    To be honest?

    It's the parser. A parser with 12 hours of recorded responses. I have....something of a bias towards text parsers that nobody else seems to share.
  • edited May 2011
    puzzlebox wrote: »
    "Last Chance to See" (the original) is a fantastic read too.

    Seconded, I think the Kakapo is my favourite animal in the whole world.
  • edited May 2011
    The Hitchhiker's text adventure was/is one of a kind. If I had to pick my favorite Hitchhiker's experience though it would have to be the BBC radio/tv series by far. Adams' later novels were a little underwhelming for me so I don't necessarily believe he holds the ultimate say-so for the future of Hitchhiker's Guide. The movie was silly and really didn't touch the awesomeness of the original material but I still had fun watching it with low expectations. Actually it had some funny takes on some things (Deep Thought being bored and watching cartoons comes to mind)
  • edited May 2011
    Doug actually considered the books to be the definitive version of H2G2 and while I own every version of Hitchhikers available I have to agree with him, the books are the best.

    The radio series is very good though.
  • edited May 2011
    I've enjoyed both Penny Arcade Adventures and DeathSpank so far, but then those had Penny Arcade and Ron Gilbert behind them, respectively. Whether Hothead is worthwhile without someone awesome writing it will have to see.
  • edited May 2011
    The crowd cheers wildly! They think you're terrific!

    Sorry, just had to post that. I actually have some doubts about this new game concept, but "We'll see."

    I bought "And Another Thing..." for some ridiculously cheap price when the local bookstore realized they ordered way too many of them for the actual demand. Still haven't read it, though. There are a lot of things ahead of it in the priority list.
  • edited May 2011
    I made a point to watch the movie before I read the books, and I'm glad I did, because it gave me a chance to enjoy the movie. Once I read the books, of course, I became aware of the huge difference in joke density, and the movie suddenly seems rather drab and boring particularly in the middle chunk on the Vogon planet... I still would have liked them to continue the film series with the same cast (though perhaps some different writers) because I did feel like they got all the personalities across rather brilliantly.

    I've only played the very beginning of the demo of Deathspank, and nothing about it has seemed funny enough to encourage me to buy it... I don't instantly trust Hothead to make this game well, but I'll wait and see what kind of gameplay and what kind of storytelling that they're going to put into it. The one thing they have going for them is that the Hitchhiker's Guide story has already established a precedent for retellings, so they don't have to do an all-new story, just reuse the existing stories and change details around so they the game and feel fresh. I feel like, in principle, it could certainly go well. It could also go poorly. We'll see.

    And another thing, "And Another Thing..." was pretty disappointing. There was a long time between reading the first five books and reading this one, so I can't totally say that the tone isn't accurate, but it really just felt totally out of sync with the rest of the series.
  • edited May 2011
    To summarise: Long time H2G2 fan (since I was a kid), loved the books, radio series, TV series. Consumed everything possible by DNA throughout the 90s and early 00s. Thought Starship Titanic was OK, but difficult to complete without a walkthrough, only ever finished the Infocom H2G2 game with a walkthrough, thought the 2005 Movie had the details right but the big picture was lacking a lot, and many many missed opportunities for great jokes from the original source. Never read 'And Another Thing...' because it kind of feels like a betrayal to do so. Thought the 'Dirk Gently' tv pilot showed promise, although it was very different from the books, I still thought it might work. Am kind of ambivalent about a new game too.

    Purpose number 2 for this post: If you want to play the original Infocom H2G2 game (now with graphics!) visit http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/hitchhikers/game.shtml - two different sets of visuals to choose from!

    And yeah, you'll probably need to google a walkthrough too :)
  • edited May 2011
    Molokov wrote: »
    Thought the 'Dirk Gently' tv pilot showed promise, although it was very different from the books.

    Oh wow, you saw that too? I enjoyed it, although I haven't read the book. Mind you, I'm a big "Green Wing" fan and as such I am highly susceptible to the charms of Stephen Mangan. Do you have any other Douglas Adam adaptation recommendations?
  • edited May 2011
    Davies wrote: »
    Oh wow, you saw that too? I enjoyed it, although I haven't read the book. Mind you, I'm a big "Green Wing" fan and as such I am highly susceptible to the charms of Stephen Mangan. Do you have any other Douglas Adam adaptation recommendations?

    The two Dirk Gently books are very very good - convoluted and confusing and completely absurd, but brilliant nonetheless.

    TV wise, not much of Douglas's writing has cropped up - the original H2G2 TV series from the 80s was a different variant on the radio series/book, and he wrote all the scripts for that too.

    The radio-series adaptations of Books 3, 4 & 5 were very well done, and much in the same vein as the original 2 radio series. Quite a lot of the original cast returned as well.
  • edited May 2011
    Ooh Hitchhikers is my favorite book. I loved the text adventure game. I liked the movie but a lot of people don't get British humor. Also, I remember reading that DNA was going through a bad patch in his life so he wasn't to happy with the way Mostly Harmless ended up.
  • edited May 2011
    I think of the movie as a decent tribute to the book. Not really all that faithful but flattering
  • edited May 2011
    There are several things wrong with the movie, but there are some things that I thought they did right. One thing, and this is only my very, very personal, you-are-allowed-to-disagree-with-me-here-don't-hurt-me-please opinion, is the visuals. I mean, everything about the visuals; the props, the aliens, the worlds, the actors. I thought they were awesome. Now, every time I read the book, I see the characters and the visual styles from the movie. Other than that, it was a 'meh' film with some funny jokes. And the story changes didn't bother me a lot, because every version of the H2G2 series is a little different.

    My opinion regarding Hothead's acquisition of the license? Cool. Sure. Why not? I'd play it. I'd like to see what they can come up with, both in game-play and art design. If there is one thing I love, it's seeing another person's artistic take on the series. That's always awesome.

    And if it's a big hit, maybe Telltale would consider a Discworld game.
  • edited May 2011
    "Thanks for all the fish" is the single best opening to any movie. Ever.
  • edited May 2011
    You haven't watched enough movie openings.
  • edited May 2011
    DAISHI wrote: »
    "Thanks for all the fish" is the single best opening to any movie. Ever.

    I did not like the Watchmen movie, but I believe that has the best opening to any movie.
  • edited May 2011
    tredlow wrote: »
    I did not like the Watchmen movie, but I believe that has the best opening to any movie.
    Really? I thought it was much better than it had any right to be. I mean, Watchmen is un-adaptable, there was really no way they could have done it perfectly. And while some of the key decisions make me want to bash my head through a wall, on the whole thing is actually a very good movie despite, well, its creation being a nigh literally impossible task.
  • edited May 2011
    Really? I thought it was much better than it had any right to be. I mean, Watchmen is un-adaptable, there was really no way they could have done it perfectly. And while some of the key decisions make me want to bash my head through a wall, on the whole thing is actually a very good movie despite, well, its creation being a nigh literally impossible task.

    I didn't say I hated it, I just have no strong opinions about the movie. I went to the theater hoping it would surprise me, but it was, like you said, impossible to be done perfectly. I guess it's my fault for having high expectations.
  • edited May 2011
    DAISHI wrote: »
    "Thanks for all the fish" is the single best opening to any movie. Ever.

    :eek: No, no, no, no. It was horrible and the first sign that they had turned Douglas' work into yet another typical Hollywood type affair. I stormed out of the cinema 30 minutes later and got a refund. It's the only time I've walked out on a movie, before or since. Although, I did watch it through to completion when watching it on TV a couple of years later. I didn't regret my previous actions upon doing so.
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