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Im going to see X-Men first class :D

yoman45135yoman45135
edited June 2011 in General Chat
Ok so today im seeing the latest x men film, the orginal films are fantastic and i was sad when they said they wont make any sequels only prequels

Does anybody know why?

I know something about them saying they explored the present a lot but want to know the routes?

Comments

  • RibsRibs
    edited June 2011
    ...because the last two weren't very good?
  • yoman45135yoman45135
    edited June 2011
    I didnt find them bad at all i liked them :confused:
  • RibsRibs
    edited June 2011
    yoman45135 wrote: »
    I didnt find them bad at all i liked them :confused:

    They killed off like 3 main characters in the third one, isn't that right? Plus Frasier was beast for some reason.
  • der_ketzerder_ketzer
    edited June 2011
    yoman45135 wrote: »
    I didnt find them bad at all i liked them :confused:

    They were good popcorn-cinema (not great though). I have seen worse movies in that genre.
  • yoman45135yoman45135
    edited June 2011
    Ribs wrote: »
    They killed off like 3 main characters in the third one, isn't that right? Plus Frasier was beast for some reason.

    I agree with that and i dont find casey grammer (or however you spell his name) A bad beast!!

    The only thing i think was bad with the 3rd and 2nd film is that they were to fast paced...
  • AndorxorAndorxor
    edited June 2011
    They included a way back for Professor X ,with the mindless body they talked about during lessons.
  • DAISHIDAISHI
    edited June 2011
    The second film was still good but the third one went off the raisl.
  • coolsomecoolsome
    edited June 2011
    I just didn't like the third movie. It seemed to have 2 plots going at once that conflicted. And Dark Phoenix is way more powerful in the comics. Not that it makes a movie good or bad but it still bugged me. I do wana see X men first class though.
  • Darth MarsdenDarth Marsden
    edited June 2011
    The third one was alright, but it wasn't as focused as the other two, and suffers in comparison. It's a perfectly fine film, but given how brilliant the first two were, it was a letdown to many. And I understand that.

    Last Stand did a lot of very questionable things. The many deaths, for one, which would leave anyone writing a sequel in a tricky situation. It's hard to follow up a film that wasn't that well received and now has half the cast it used to.

    There was also the frankly stupid idea to let Halle Berry have more screen time. God she was terrible in these films. Terrible.

    Also, regarding Professor X:
    Yes, he's now in the body of a previously brain-dead person, but he can't access his powers anymore because they were in his old body. So he's just a guy now, not a mutant. Which is... yeah, you can see why they thought it best to avoid delving into that in a franchise centered around mutants.
  • coolsomecoolsome
    edited June 2011
    Darth Marsden wrote: »
    There was also the frankly stupid idea to let Halle Berry have more screen time. God she was terrible in these films. Terrible.

    It wouldn't be so bad if there was a clear reason but most of the time she had no plot reason to have more scenes. And she had no chemistry with Wolverine it was just like there work mates who rarely spend alone time.
  • Darth MarsdenDarth Marsden
    edited June 2011
    coolsome wrote: »
    It wouldn't be so bad if there was a clear reason but most of the time she had no plot reason to have more scenes. And she had no chemistry with Wolverine it was just like there work mates who rarely spend alone time.
    That, and she couldn't act. And had terrible lines. And couldn't act. And contributed nothing to the story. And couldn't act.

    Did I mention she couldn't act? Because she couldn't. Y'know, act. That thing she couldn't do.

    ...act.
  • yoman45135yoman45135
    edited June 2011
    Well i just watched it, im not going to reveal anything but the beggining is a nice gesture to the first film.

    except from that it felt like a remake more than a prequel
  • Martin McFlyMartin McFly
    edited June 2011
    Coming from someone who enjoyed the first two X-men movies but disliked Origins and X3, I was very pleased with First Class. It truly felt like an X-men movie (as opposed to X3) and I loved the little nods they put in for the fans of the original trilogy.

    It's quite an enjoyable film and I would recommend it to any superhero fan.
  • JohroJohro
    edited June 2011
    Why do people hate on Origins: Wolverine? If I'm not mistaken, it is much closer to the comics than any other movie. Sure they spiced it up so people could see more mutants, but I thought it was pretty faithful and well above what I expected after X3. It wasn't a great movie, but if I had to watch 1 x-men movie again, it would be Wolverine(and no, I'm not a fanboy with a hard-on for him, he's not my favourite mutant).
  • SunnyGuySunnyGuy
    edited June 2011
    it is much closer to the comics than any other movie.

    *ahem*
    deadpool1.jpg

    Overall, I don't hate, but I just don't like it and they ruined the character I wanted to see the most.


    Re: First Class
    After X3 and Wolverine I wasn't expecting it to be any good, but I'm really glad I was wrong.

    That one cameo (if you saw the movie you know which one) was amazing, the theater was clapping when it happened XD
  • yoman45135yoman45135
    edited June 2011
    Indeed deadpool in wolverine origins is nothing like the comic version.
  • GaryCXJkGaryCXJk
    edited June 2011
    Ribs wrote: »
    They killed off like 3 main characters in the third one, isn't that right? Plus Frasier was beast for some reason.

    At least they killed off one of the least likeable of the trilogy. I mean, who even likes Scott in the comics nowadays?

    Also, you can bet that the Deadpool movie will reference that and just say whenever somebody brings that up: "That didn't happen."
  • JohroJohro
    edited June 2011
    Yeah the end of Deadpool was kind of a disappointment. I mean, he WAS supposed to be disfigured...but yeah, it was a let down(and yes, he is among my favourite characters in the comics). But seriously, compared to the other movies, Wolverine was still the best at sticking to the story.
  • Secret FawfulSecret Fawful
    edited June 2011
    I'm seeing this movie for two reasons. The biggest is Kevin Bacon. The second biggest is Michael Fassbender. Mostly it's Kevin Bacon, though.
  • SunnyGuySunnyGuy
    edited June 2011
    They won't disappoint you Fawful.
    Johro wrote: »
    But seriously, compared to the other movies, Wolverine was still the best at sticking to the story.

    But is that necessarily something that makes it better? The movies are their own AU, they don't need to follow the original canon that closely. Hell, I can safely say this is one of the best X-men movies and it's easily the one that gives the least attention to previous canon be it movie or comic.
    At least they killed off one of the least likeable of the trilogy. I mean, who even likes Scott in the comics nowadays?

    From what I've seen plenty of people actually. Of course, that's only current comic Scott, not necessarily any of the other Scotts.
  • JohroJohro
    edited June 2011
    Scott was generally well liked until the 90's cartoon from what I remember. I vaguely recall classmates being heartbroken and angry at the voice and character he became... Cyclops in the cartoon kind of reminds me of.... well anybody seen Robocop 2? When he gets rewired? ...yeah. That's kind of what Cyclops was in the TV show. I only really remember one episode where he went over the moral edge.... the Mr. Sinister one.
  • coolsomecoolsome
    edited June 2011
    Johro wrote: »
    Scott was generally well liked until the 90's cartoon from what I remember. I vaguely recall classmates being heartbroken and angry at the voice and character he became... Cyclops in the cartoon kind of reminds me of.... well anybody seen Robocop 2? When he gets rewired? ...yeah. That's kind of what Cyclops was in the TV show. I only really remember one episode where he went over the moral edge.... the Mr. Sinister one.

    He always went over the edge with Sinster even when he was on the good side one episode. Stom had the hammyiest voice in that! I SHALL MEET YOU AT THE MONORAIL!
  • doodo!doodo!
    edited June 2011
    Let me get it right, this is not a prequel to the other films?
  • coolsomecoolsome
    edited June 2011
    doodo! wrote: »
    Let me get it right, this is not a prequel to the other films?

    Yeah I'm confused about this too. Is it a reboot or a prequel cos iv herd loads of conflicting stuff?
  • doodo!doodo!
    edited June 2011
    Yeah, clear it up...

    This is a little punk so it might annoy the piss out of you but it's 12:50 AM and I think it's good for that hour. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6iKqOMPZTw&feature=channel_video_title
  • jerrylewisjerrylewis
    edited June 2011
    I have watched this at the opening day.this was great and i am also following the comic books of X men.
  • doodo!doodo!
    edited June 2011
    jerrylewis wrote: »
    I have watched this at the opening day.this was great and i am also following the comic books of X men.

    Is it a prequel to the other films?
  • JohroJohro
    edited June 2011
    It ignores everything. So yes, there's a few continuity issues.
    Takes place 10yrs before Wolverine. Emma Frost is an adult(She appears younger in Wolverine). Summers and Grey appear briefly as children...which would make them about 40 in the original trilogy.
    . (spoilers regard appearing characters and not plot).
  • doodo!doodo!
    edited June 2011
    Johro wrote: »
    It ignores everything. So yes, there's a few continuity issues.
    Takes place 10yrs before Wolverine. Emma Frost is an adult(She appears younger in Wolverine). Summers and Grey appear briefly as children...which would make them about 40 in the original trilogy.
    . (spoilers regard appearing characters and not plot).

    Thanks mate. Hey, are you also a X-men the animated series fan, remember the one from the 90s?
  • SunnyGuySunnyGuy
    edited June 2011
    It's a prequel that ignores X3 and Wolverine because of retcons.
  • JohroJohro
    edited June 2011
    I think I said this before, but, I really liked the first few seasons...the last two were awful though with the new voices(Gambit's change really bothered me) and animation(last season). The first 3 were great.
  • doodo!doodo!
    edited June 2011
    Johro wrote: »
    I think I said this before, but, I really liked the first few seasons...the last two were awful though with the new voices(Gambit's change really bothered me) and animation(last season). The first 3 were great.

    It's been a while, I have a few VHS, and the stories are FANTASTIC. Very StanLee , very well done. Haven't even given the newer stuff a chance. It was a great cartoon, very solid writing.
  • JohroJohro
    edited June 2011
    doodo! wrote: »
    It's been a while, I have a few VHS, and the stories are FANTASTIC. Very StanLee , very well done. Haven't even given the newer stuff a chance. It was a great cartoon, very solid writing.
    Then you have the good ones... I dont think they released the last couple seasons in VHS volumes. I think I had them all and they only covered the first 2 seasons.(I could be wrong though)
  • doodo!doodo!
    edited June 2011
    No, I think you're right, I think they're season 1. I wanted to buy the series, but it's going to be on Netflix, and we pay for netflix , so there's no real point in that. Anyways, thanks for informing me that the third season sucks. When I watched it growing up, I think I got as far as one episode where Cyclops fights the pheonix on a roof top or something...
    Don't know if that makes sense , or if that's early in the series, and I'm likely mistaken, or what.
  • coolsomecoolsome
    edited June 2011
    doodo! wrote: »
    No, I think you're right, I think they're season 1. I wanted to buy the series, but it's going to be on Netflix, and we pay for netflix , so there's no real point in that. Anyways, thanks for informing me that the third season sucks. When I watched it growing up, I think I got as far as one episode where Cyclops fights the pheonix on a roof top or something...
    Don't know if that makes sense , or if that's early in the series, and I'm likely mistaken, or what.

    Yh that's the start of the Dark Phoenix saga. Which happened early on I think. It was certainly the best storyline.
  • JohroJohro
    edited June 2011
    season 3. I looked up the episodes. Some of season 4 is...okay. The first few episodes anyways. The episodes are all mixed up. 1997 is when everything went down(season 5), So Season 4 is worth watching. As for 5.... well... I specifically remember a fight with Mr. Sinister where no one throws a single punch...just...wrestling.
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