PC video game controllers/gamepads

edited January 2012 in General Chat
I am interested in having a discussion about gamepads for PC.

First, I'm curious as to what type of controller (besides keyboard + mouse) that most of you use for PC gaming.

Secondly, I use an off-brand 360 controller for various PC games and said games recognize it as such. As a result, they display face button assignments with the corresponding controller in mind (A,B,X,Y). As I do not have a PS3 controller nor a USB adapter for my PS2 controller, I would like to know, if one were to use some form of Playstation controller, games would instead display face button assignments as circle, square, x and triangle.

Third, I'm considering giving LEGO Batman for Steam to my nephew for his birthday but I don't know if his family has a PC controller, so I would like to know which controller for PC you all think would be best for the money.

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  • edited January 2012
    Chyron8472 wrote: »
    Secondly, I use an off-brand 360 controller for various PC games and said games recognize it as such. As a result, they display face button assignments with the corresponding controller in mind (A,B,X,Y). As I do not have a PS3 controller nor a USB adapter for my PS2 controller, I would like to know, if one were to use some form of Playstation controller, games would instead display face button assignments as circle, square, x and triangle.
    This is a special case with the 360 controller. If the game recognizes "other" controllers present, it at most will present buttons with numbers on them, and those buttons will be consistent(1 will always refer to Triangle or whatever), but as far as I'm aware Sony hasn't made it easy for simple recognition of a Playstation controller.

    Xbox 360 controllers are the best in terms of software support. Most games made now support them, and when they have deeper integration it's a better experience than other controllers(with support for things like displaying the face buttons and activating rumble).

    For the actual controller...what are you trying to play? For something like LEGO Batman, you're best with a 360 controller. Wireless costs a LOT more, and there is a LOT less in the PC wireless category there. If you want to play something that requires precision and would work most nicely with a D-Pad, the 360 controllers have terrible D-pads with awkward placement(this is largely not a problem with modern games as they're designed with this setup in mind, but playing anything from the 80s/early 90s consoles shows how shitty these things are).

    I personally own a wired 360 controller, a wired Mortal Kombat fight stick, and a couple Logitech controllers I bought for $5 total from a Goodwill. I've been meaning to buy USB adapters that get other(older) controllers like the NES, SNES, Genesis, etc controllers to work. There is software that tricks computers into thinking a PS3 controller connected with a wire is a 360 controller, but the setup is fussy and I wouldn't suggest it for a small kid.
  • edited January 2012
    Wireless is not necessary for PC gaming.

    Regarding the games that I play, my 360 controller works well for the various games I currently use it for such as Just Cause 2 and The Force Unleashed. The original reason why I bought it was for my copy of LEGO Harry Potter Years 1-4, because my SNES controller (connectable via Super SmartJoy) didn't have enough assignable buttons. I use my keyboard and mouse for adventure games. Once upon a time, I did have a Logitech Wingman Extreme for flight games, but I haven't had need of it for so long that I'm not even sure where it is now.

    The reason why I dared to buy an off-brand controller for my PC (which I would flat out refuse to do for a console) is because it was significantly cheaper.
  • edited January 2012
    I've been using a MadCatz 360 gamepad on my PC for years, and I've had very few problems. The shoulder buttons have gotten a little mushy over time, and the face buttons have pretty angular corners (which has led to some near blisters during long gaming sessions), but overall it's worked just fine. There are a lot of games that recognize it by default, and I like not having to do any button re-mapping to play most games.

    I got it about 5 or 6 years ago, worried I'd only play one or two games with it. I've ended up at least a dozen. A partial list includes: Psychonauts, Braid, Limbo, Darksiders, Overlord, Bastion, Trine 1 & 2, Costume Quest, Batman: Arkham Asylum, Dreamfall: The Longest Journey, Cave Story and The Misadventures of P.B. Winterbottom.

    Oh, and interesting thing about Xbox 360 controllers on the PC that I learned a while back: They have a USB audio device built-in. Just plug in a headset (any cheap one meant to work with cordless phones will do) and Windows should recognize it. You can set things up to just use it as a microphone, or use it as sound output as well.
  • edited January 2012
    Chyron8472 wrote: »
    Wireless is not necessary for PC gaming.
    Wireless isn't *necessary* for any gaming. PCs can play on televisions as well, and it's easier than ever thanks to televisions and computer monitors both using the HDMI standard for audio/video input. I've played New Vegas on a large-screen television with no discernable difference from the 360 version.

    (other than the better graphics. And the faster load times. And the mods. And the ability to fix things using the console. And being able to hold a Skype/Steam Voice/Google Voice call at the same time.)
    Chyron8472 wrote: »
    Regarding the games that I play, my 360 controller works well for the various games I currently use it for such as Just Cause 2 and The Force Unleashed.
    Right, it's fine because they were designed for it, they're console ports. Same with the LEGO games. If it was designed primarily for a 360 or multiplatform experience, the 360 controller will do you fine 99 out of 100 cases.
    Chyron8472 wrote: »
    The reason why I dared to buy an off-brand controller for my PC (which I would flat out refuse to do for a console) is because it was significantly cheaper.
    What do you consider "significantly"?
    figmentPez wrote: »
    Oh, and interesting thing about Xbox 360 controllers on the PC that I learned a while back: They have a USB audio device built-in. Just plug in a headset (any cheap one meant to work with cordless phones will do) and Windows should recognize it. You can set things up to just use it as a microphone, or use it as sound output as well.
    The official Xbox 360 headset works too, just FYI.
  • edited January 2012
    I use a 360 wired controller and an offbrand PS3-style PC controller(because I, personally, prefer the feel and design of it). For games that recognise it, I use the 360 controller. For games that I have to use a keystroke program, I use the offbrand. The offbrand was the 3rd cheapest I could find and I've had zero issues with it(user reviews are your friend).

    I've done the PS3 controller thing before and couldn't stand it. I'd have to move the files back to the system folder every now and then and every time I unplugged it, it would turn on my PS3 -.- ...I guess the latter wouldn't be a problem if you didn't own a PS3.
  • edited January 2012
    What do you consider "significantly
    I bought my controller from GameStop, and if I recall correctly, the one I bought was ~$20-25 while a first-party wired 360 controller was >$60. I could swear it was $70, but I could be mistaken.
  • edited January 2012
    The PS3 controller doesn't work on the PC out of the box. You have to install a special third-party driver which treats it like a generic gamepad. So no, it doesn't display button faces in games.

    (mind you, that's if you use the USB chord. I don't have a Bluetooth device on my system so I'm not sure how it'd work wirelessly, but I expect the same)
  • edited January 2012
    The PS3 controller doesn't work on the PC out of the box. You have to install a special third-party driver which treats it like a generic gamepad. So no, it doesn't display button faces in games.

    (mind you, that's if you use the USB chord. I don't have a Bluetooth device on my system so I'm not sure how it'd work wirelessly, but I expect the same)
    If you trick it into thinking the PS3 controller is a 360 one, it will display the Xbox face buttons. If you're familiar with those and their placements, you're good.
  • edited January 2012
    It's just not worth the hassle. If you like the PS3 controller better, get a PC one modelled after it. ...If you have the money that is. If you're a teenager, still in school, I could see playing around with this stuff.
  • edited January 2012
    If you trick it into thinking the PS3 controller is a 360 one, it will display the Xbox face buttons. If you're familiar with those and their placements, you're good.
    That's pretty much what I do, only I'm a console generation behind.

    I got an attachment that lets me use a PS2 controller on my Xbox 360, but after I got used to the 360 controller, I started using the device on my PC instead and it works great.

    The only downside is that the device also needs a wired 360 controller to work (I'm not entirely certain why. Something about tricking the system into thinking you're using it, I think) and as a result I have to turn rumble off, otherwise I hear a loud rattling every time something hits me in a game and the other controller buzzes away.

    But no, the face buttons won't display the triangle, etc. Either 360 buttons or generic numbers.
  • edited January 2012
    Wireless Xbox 360 Controller.

    Before that it was a modified Xbox Controller S.

    Before that it was a cheap logitek controller that broke. (It sucked balls!)

    I tried using a Wii controller. Bad idea.
    Wiimites just love to randomly disconnect all the time, and are a bugger to set up in the firstplace.

    PS3 controllers are a little better, but my older brother uses those. (He plays the PS3 a lot!)

    Xbox 360 controller + Xpadder = Godlike usefulness!
  • edited January 2012
    I used to have a cheapo chinese gamepad I got for about $3 on eBay. Had some issues getting the right driver before Windows 7 (where it works fine natively), but it served me pretty well if you forgive the flaws.
    Since Christmas I'm using a Logitech F310. It's a clear improvement in ergonomics and responsiveness, and the buttons have the letters and colors of corresponding Xbox controller buttons - quite nice as games tend to go with these.
  • edited January 2012
    A wired Xbox 360 controller which also doubles as my spare controller for my 360 whenever my battery for my wireless controller needs charging while I'm playing.
  • edited January 2012
    Ok sorry if this is out of place, but can you please provide a link to use a ps3/Xbox 360 controller pad I don't know where too go��
  • edited January 2012
    To use an Xbox 360 controller on your PC, just plug it in. Windows should automatically detect it. If not, go here and select your operating system to get the relevant drivers.

    The PS3 one is incredibly fiddly and requires a bluetooth adapter. Probably not worth it.
  • edited January 2012
    Not if you use the USB cable that comes with the controller (for charging it). You just need the third-party driver.
  • edited January 2012
    Not if you use the USB cable that comes with the controller (for charging it). You just need the third-party driver.
    Really? Which driver's that?
  • edited January 2012
    There's a few methods listed here. I can't remember now which one I used but it worked. I abandoned it long ago, however, in favour of a wired 360 controller.
  • edited January 2012
    Cool. Thanks. I'll give 'em a try after work.
  • edited January 2012
    Newegg.com is having a sale on Microsoft Xbox 360 Wireless Controller for Windows this weekend. $7-off with a coupon code that will show if you're subscribed to their email newsletter, putting the price at $37. I'm so tempted to pick it up for myself, since my wired MadCatz is showing signs of wear.
  • edited January 2012
    Chyron8472 wrote: »
    Bought from Amazon:

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    to be used for PC.

    I signed up for a free 30-day Amazon Prime trial, which is why I can get away with the 2-day shipping (Amazon Prime accounts get free 2-day shipping for certain items).

    I already have an off-brand 360 controller, and I just bought another first-party 360 controller. Now the question remains, should I give my nephew the first-party one with his birthday present (LEGO Batman for Steam) or should I keep it for myself and give him the off-brand one? He'd never know, since I always baby the analog sticks on my controllers such that the off-brand one is still in great condition.

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  • edited January 2012
    It pretty much depends on how fond you are of your nephew. :p

    Give him the official one. The off-brand one isn't that bad, is it?
  • edited January 2012
    Remember, if you want to use wireless 360 controllers with Windows you need to have the XBox wireless device receiver as well.
  • edited January 2012
    The off-brand one isn't that bad, is it?

    It's not really that. It's just...

    First, he's 9 years old, so I'm not sure he'd care.

    Second, he and his older brother are not nice to their stuff. For example, my brother-in-law has said that they have already broken more than one Wii Nunchuk by dropping them hard on the new hardwood flooring that their family has had for only about a year. They also leave several bare game CDs laying about outside their cases right next to where the boxes for said games are. Also, their parents had a Majora's Mask strategy guide, and I once did quite a lot of research to figure out what was the best Ocarina of Time guide to buy for the kids--but I've been told that either through negligence or just being mean to their stuff, both strategy guides have basically been ruined/torn up.

    I take care of my video game/electronics stuff. I always have taken care of my video game/electronics stuff. I'm not sure I want to give them the nicer brand new one only to learn about it getting broken.

    Plus, I'm a bit selfish and the first-party controller really does feel more comfortable. :o
  • edited January 2012
    Well, if they don't care, why should you? If they're not going to really appreciate it, then the off-brand one does seem the more appropriate choice. Then if they break it (which I gather they probably will), whatever.
  • edited January 2012
    Also, in an effort to not be solely associated with video games (they talk to me about video games when I'm around, probably because no one else in the family will talk to them about it) I'm considering getting my nephew something else in addition, but I have a sort of self-imposed budget on how much I intend to spend. Giving the off-brand controller instead seems to me a fair budgetary compromise.

    [EDIT:] Why didn't I just buy a new off-brand controller for them? Because, at least at Amazon, the pricing for either is about the same. Also, if I were to buy it from GameStop, there is the option to buy a previously-owned controller from them (I'm not going to buy a used controller online). The difference here is that I know who the previous owner was (ie. me) and so I know it has been well taken care of. The reason why I bought the off-brand controller for myself in the first place was because I got a $20 gift card to GameStop as a birthday present last year, and I knew I needed a controller for my PC at the time.
  • edited January 2012
    ...

    I'm sorry, are you actually asking whether you should buy a new off-brand controller for your Nephew? You've phrased that paragraph slightly awkwardly. And I should know about phrasing stuff awkwardly, I'm the video reviewer guy.
  • edited January 2012
    Remember, if you want to use wireless 360 controllers with Windows you need to have the XBox wireless device receiver as well.

    Which comes bundled in the package if it's the wireless controller "for Windows" version.
  • edited January 2012
    I'm sorry, are you actually asking whether you should buy a new off-brand controller for your Nephew? You've phrased that paragraph slightly awkwardly.

    I'm not asking if I should buy one. I'm justifying the lack of buying one in case someone wonders why I didn't.
  • edited January 2012
    Chyron8472 wrote: »
    I'm not asking if I should buy one. I'm justifying the lack of buying one in case someone wonders why I didn't.
    Oh, OK. Just wasn't sure is all.
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