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The ACTUAL Mature Thread (PLEASE!!!)

lovetodo22lovetodo22
edited April 2012 in General Chat
Can we please actually keep this one mature? I actually wanted somewhere to discuss philosophy, fine arts, and other such things.
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  • ted12ted12
    edited February 2012
    No offense, but you're asking for mature discussion on the Telltale Games general chat area. I applaud the notion, but good luck getting results.
  • RetroVortexRetroVortex
    edited February 2012
    Hmmm... it would be nice to have a thread where we could discuss the finer things in life.

    And what is life? What is its meaning?

    To rephrase that question: What is the meaning of life?
  • ted12ted12
    edited February 2012
    RetroVortex wrote: »
    Hmmm... it would be nice to have a thread where we could discuss the finer things in life.

    And what is life? What is its meaning?

    To rephrase that question: What is the meaning of life?

    Asin the actual meaning or the Douglas Adams instant response?
  • lovetodo22lovetodo22
    edited February 2012
    If you believe Nietzsche, the meaning of life is pain and suffering.
    If you follow the interstellar hitchhiker theory , I would have to go with the standard 42 response.
  • coolsomecoolsome
    edited February 2012
    I can't wait till series 13 of Agatha Christie's Poirot I especially want to see how they tackle The Big Four.
  • RemolayRemolay
    edited February 2012
    RetroVortex wrote: »
    To rephrase that question: What is the meaning of life?

    Quite simply, to survive. How you do that is up to you, but the ultimate goal is to avoid death as long as possible.
  • coolsomecoolsome
    edited February 2012
    Remolay wrote: »
    Quite simply, to survive. How you do that is up to you, but the ultimate goal is to avoid death as long as possible.

    So Ted in I have no mouth and I must scream won the game of life?
  • FalancaFalanca
    edited February 2012
    Have you not seen the most recent episode of the show named Family Guy, gentlemen? It's quite a delicacy indeed.
  • RetroVortexRetroVortex
    edited February 2012
    lovetodo22 wrote: »
    If you believe Nietzsche, the meaning of life is pain and suffering.

    If that was true. Would that just make life completely pointless?

    In all seriousness, my answer to the meaning of life is simple: There is none.

    Well no specific purpose to our existance anyway.

    We just exist. Randomly.

    And in our lives its most recommended to have a go of it. Try to experience as much happiness as possible. (Find something that really gives you that warm feeling, that sweet spot! :D)
  • ted12ted12
    edited February 2012
    The meaning of life is to live, and to kick all manner of heinie whilst doing so.
  • coolsomecoolsome
    edited February 2012
    Has anyone played that game series that has an interesting take on the theory of evolution and time travel.
  • RemolayRemolay
    edited February 2012
    coolsome wrote: »
    So Ted in I have no mouth and I must scream won the game of life?

    I'd more consider the game of life like Tetris, you can't actually win, but you're hopelessly addicted to it.

    Plus I haven't actually read that story, so I haven't a clue what you're talking about.
  • Giant TopeGiant Tope
    edited February 2012
    Mature subjects pop up from time to time on this forum, but it's kind of hard to force such discussion much to my and many other's shagrin.
  • lovetodo22lovetodo22
    edited February 2012
    In the words of Nietzsche (brace yourselves, this is a longer one): He who does not wish to see the height of a man, looks all the more sharply at what is low in him, and in the foreground - and thereby betrays himself. In all kinds of injury and loss the lower and coarser soul is better off than the nobler soul: the dangers of the latter must be greater, the probability that it will come to grief and perish is in fact immense, considering the multiplicity of the conditions of its existence. In a lizard a finger grows again which has been lost; not so in man. It is too bad! Always the old story! When a man has finished building his house, he finds that he has learnt unawares something which he ought absolutely to have known before he- began to build. The eternal, fatal "Too late!" The melancholia of everything completed!
  • RetroVortexRetroVortex
    edited February 2012
    It kind of reminds me of my video game problem.

    The fact that I keep buying, yet never really playing or completing videogames. Its tragic that I seem unable to just sit down and play videogames without consequence like I could when I was a kid. To truly engross myself in the characters and the world in place.

    Sure I play a lot of Pokemon or Dragon Quest Monsters, and though I love those games, the reason I play those so much would be moreso contributed to the addictive qualities in those games than the actual game itself.

    Truly I spend more time in the aquisition and discussion of videogames than I do playing and developing them. Which is tragic, since there is a lot of wasted potential there.

    I really, really want to spend like, 3 days playing Lost Odyssey or Final Fantasy IX till I beat them, but I usually end up getting a quick fix of King of Fighters XIII or something on my 3DS or Arcade Machine.

    (Its partly my body too. I can't seem to stand sessions longer than about 1 - 1 1/2 hours)

    Am I no better than the Casual I absent mindedly scoff at!?
  • DaviesDavies
    edited February 2012
    coolsome wrote: »
    So Ted in I have no mouth and I must scream won the game of life?

    I adore I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream. I found it by playing the adventure game and I found the story and themes to be gripping, disturbing and thought provoking.

    Following that I read the original short story by the great (but grumpy) Harlan Ellison (who also provided the voice for A.M. in the game, along with the extended story and dialogue). I truly enjoyed this story and wholeheartedly recommend it to everyone.

    Interestingly, to stay true to the original story and see the grizzly twist at the end of the game, you actually have to essentially achieve a game over. Although technically there is no "game over" in the game. It's a bit like Heavy Rain in that regard, you can kill all five characters, or you can save them all, or you can save any number of them; and the story just continues or concludes in a natural way.

    Overall though, I'm a huge admirer of stories which are extremely dark in nature and a nasty sting in their tale (apologies for the atrocious pun), which is revealed during a twist at the end. In that respect the original short story is best. Though it's hardly surprising that the game developers didn't include the elements of rape in the game!

    Anyway, if any of you haven't read the short story; I really think there's a high probability that you'll consider it time well spent and if you haven't played the adventure game (which is compatible with ScummVM); I strongly advise you to consider it. It really doesn't matter in which order you do those two things. Whichever you choose, it's likely to ensure that you'll want to seek the other form of media out too.
  • RetroVortexRetroVortex
    edited February 2012
    I just like to play Phantasmagoria, or "Wander around, doing uninteresting things for about 3 hours before anything remotely interesting happens" as I affectionally call it! :D
  • lovetodo22lovetodo22
    edited February 2012
    I just want to remind everybody that thiS is not the whatEvEr's on your mind thread, and if you don't want it to get locked up, we need to play by the Bossman's rulEs. i completeLy agree and comply with the mods decision tO take doWn the other one.
  • DaviesDavies
    edited February 2012
    lovetodo22 wrote: »
    I just want to remind everybody that this is not the Whatever's On Your Mind thread, and if you don't want it to get locked up, we need to play by the bossman's rules.

    I second this. This should be a thread to come to when you have a desire to discuss things as an adult. We all like to be silly sometimes (let's face it, I'm a prime offender) and that's a good thing but there's so many other threads on this forum for that kind of thing.

    Please could we all try to abide by this "rule". Let's prove that we all can be mature (or "boring" if you must)... from time to time at least.
  • RetroVortexRetroVortex
    edited February 2012
    I'm still talking about Philosophy at least.

    Well my personal interpretation of it.

    I take a lot of inspiration from poets such as Williiam Blake and Tony Morrison.

    Sure, the subjects of which I speak are contemporary, but the underlying philosophy is common to many philosophical arguments.

    In fact, I'd go as far to say that like William Blake I envy the children for their endless enthusiasm and imagination.
    (The lack of which in me at the moment, is what is causing my nostagia)
  • lovetodo22lovetodo22
    edited February 2012
    All of the actual mature stuff I posted to the first thread I made before it got shut down: "As a musician, I tell you that if we were to suppress adultery, fanaticism, crime, evil, the supernatural, there would no longer be the means of writing one note" - George Bizet

    So, has anyone read any Nietzsche recently? I find his take on human suffering and existence absolutely fascinating. An acquaintance came over to discuss it with me the other day over some red wine and Dubliner cheese.

    At the moment, I am in absolute awe of Hieronymus Bosch, who painted this beautiful and philosophical painting known as The Garden Of Earthly Delights
    delightc.jpg
  • AlcoremortisAlcoremortis
    edited February 2012
    There only seems to be one kind of delight in that painting.
  • lovetodo22lovetodo22
    edited February 2012
    Alcoremortis wrote: »
    There only seems to be one kind of delight in that painting.

    That's because you're not looking closely enough. There's fruit, a gazelle and several other animals, birds, and angels. Not to mention the beautiful water and surreal tree things. The people are not the only things occupying this frame.
  • Secret FawfulSecret Fawful
    edited February 2012
    I'm impressed he added some chocolate beauties. Mmmm MMM! That is some fiine chocolat.
  • AlcoremortisAlcoremortis
    edited February 2012
    lovetodo22 wrote: »
    That's because you're not looking closely enough. There's fruit, a gazelle and several other animals, birds, and angels. Not to mention the beautiful water and surreal tree things. The people are not the only things occupying this frame.

    But they do seem to be the sole "delight". I wouldn't call a camel a "delight".

    Then again, if I painted this painting, I'd probably have filled it with computer games and books.
  • coolsomecoolsome
    edited February 2012
    Is that bird regurgitating food for a naked man!?
  • Secret FawfulSecret Fawful
    edited February 2012
    coolsome wrote: »
    Is that bird regurgitating food for a naked man!?

    That IS. I'm just wondering what the hell the owl thing is.
  • AlcoremortisAlcoremortis
    edited February 2012
    coolsome wrote: »
    Is that bird regurgitating food for a naked man!?

    It wouldn't surprise me. I mean, this is where you go to not do any work. And chewing is really hard work.
  • coolsomecoolsome
    edited February 2012
    Secret Fawful wrote: »
    That IS. I'm just wondering what the hell the owl thing is.

    Kaepora Gaebora got some action.
  • SilverwolfpetSilverwolfpet
    edited February 2012
    You guys crack me up :p

    Cool to see some art on the forum, for a change.
  • Secret FawfulSecret Fawful
    edited February 2012
    coolsome wrote: »
    Kaepora Gaebora got some action.

    Can't stop laughing.
  • RemolayRemolay
    edited February 2012
    That painting is different and confusing and therefor scares me.

    I'm barely joking. I have no idea what's going on in it.
  • AlcoremortisAlcoremortis
    edited February 2012
    Secret Fawful wrote: »
    That IS. I'm just wondering what the hell the owl thing is.

    The one in the corner? It looks like that dude is...fondling it.

    I'm not sure everyone would want to share in these earthly delights.
  • lovetodo22lovetodo22
    edited February 2012
    And some art by HR Giger
    spell1_40.jpg
  • lovetodo22lovetodo22
    edited February 2012
    Alcoremortis wrote: »
    The one in the corner? It looks like that dude is...fondling it.

    I'm not sure everyone would want to share in these earthly delights.

    I believe he may be referring to the owl on the right. Look at the right bottom corner, look slightly up, and see and owl that seems to have arms growing out of it.
  • RemolayRemolay
    edited February 2012
    Have to say, I much prefer the works of M.C. Escher. I'm not even joking when I say that I can be entertained for hours on end just looking at Drawing Hands

    LW355.jpg
  • Secret FawfulSecret Fawful
    edited February 2012
    Holy shit, I completely missed the owl being fondled by the dude.
  • JohroJohro
    edited February 2012
    lovetodo22 wrote: »
    And some art by HR Giger

    If anyone didn't recognise that style instantly, don't talk to me anymore :P
  • lovetodo22lovetodo22
    edited February 2012
    Here's part two of The Garden Of Earthly Delights: Hell

    Hell%20Bosch.jpg

    And the left panel

    Hieronymus_Bosch_-_The_Garden_of_Earthly_Delights_-_The_Earthly_Paradise_(Garden_of_Eden).jpg
  • RemolayRemolay
    edited February 2012
    I remain utterly confused but, let me see if I can make any sense of this.

    A few people: Good
    More people: fun
    More people for an extended period of time: Bad
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