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top 10 adventure games

fco.fco.
edited August 2009 in General Chat
i believe this hasn't been talked in the forums. what do you guys think?

personaly, i think myst deserved better. it must be one of my top 5 adventure games i've played, and definetly the most inmersive one, with that whole "the game is about finding out what the game is about" thing...

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  • ShaggEShaggE
    edited June 2007
    How can they not include either the 7th Guest or 11th Hour? (or Shivers 2 or Phantasmagoria, for that matter)

    (I know, matter of opinion, but dagnabbit... :P )
  • AdamGAdamG
    edited June 2007
    Oh, Shivers 2 was pretty good! :) I have both of them. They're not perfect, but I don't know of any game other then Phantasmagoria that's anything like them. I'll be getting Phantasmagoria here shortly... I never played Myst, but I think I have a bootleg copy of it. (cough)

    Hmmm... So top adventure games, eh? Well, I'll ignore the obvious two. (Sam & Max games.) One relatively unknown game that I liked a lot was Fredrick Pohl's Gateway. I believe there were two of them actually, both were very good. To be honest it's been so long since the adventure era I'll have to refresh my memory...
  • maximmortalmaximmortal
    edited June 2007
    Myst wasn't that great.

    Monkey Island was better than Monkey Island 2.
  • RasherRasher
    edited June 2007
    Only 5? No wonder plenty of great games get left out. How could they forget awsome games like Gabriel Knight and Borken Sword?
  • ShaggEShaggE
    edited June 2007
    AdamG wrote: »
    Oh, Shivers 2 was pretty good! :) I have both of them. They're not perfect, but I don't know of any game other then Phantasmagoria that's anything like them.

    It was truly underappreciated... the acting was actually fairly good (for FMV game standards), the music was incredibly well-done, and the "clues in the lyrics" idea worked quite well. Plus it was beautiful to look at. The puzzles were a bit "eh.." though.
  • OnCallDocOnCallDoc
    edited June 2007
    I never could get into Myst. I'm more into lighthearted adventure games like Monkey Island(all 4), Sam & Max (old and new of course), DOTT, Grim Fandango, Broken Sword 1 and 2 and Full Throttle. Didn't really like Maniac Mansion as much but I guess that if I had played it when it originally came out I may have appreciated it more. The Dig set a cool mood. 7th Guest was nice but I never got to finish since it belonged to a friend of mine. Leisure Suit Larry was funny too but too inconsistent between sequels although I never played the first. I guess most of these game would be in my top ten.
  • fco.fco.
    edited June 2007
    7th guest was pretty meh... with that thing that let you skip the puzzles and all (though without it i'd never finished it. i mean, what the hell were you supposed to do with those cans??)

    i always wanted to play shivers or phantasmagoria, but for some reason i could never put my hands on them. does anyone knows where can i find them nowdays?
  • ShaggEShaggE
    edited June 2007
    Good luck, you might find Shivers somewhere if you're really lucky, but Phantasmagoria is near impossible to get ahold of. There's always eBay though... Shame that they're not abandonware yet, or I'd have you hooked up in a flash :P
  • purple_monkfishpurple_monkfish
    edited June 2007
    no, I really don't agree with a lot of that. Leisure suit larry? come ON!
    lesse..
    my number one would be Loom, then Grim Fandango.

    Loom
    Grim Fandango
    Monkey Island
    Sam and Max hit the road
    Zork has to be in here somewhere damnit!
    Broken sword
    Sanitarium!
    The dark eye (just for being so wierd and unique)

    um... lesse.. I never played Gabriel knight unfortunately.. always wanted to.
    KQ7 is the only kings quest i've ever played, and I enjoyed it... despite it's frustrations.
    I suppose monkey island 2 and 3.. I love the visuals in 3.
  • ArmakuniArmakuni
    edited June 2007
    1. Gabriel Knight 2
    1. Gabriel Knight
    3. Monkey Island
    4. Kings Quest 6
    5. Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis

    There are my current top five.. they change all the time though :p
  • AdamGAdamG
    edited June 2007
    Oh, yeah, I played the first Gabriel Knight. It was definately A+ material, a true classic. It was actually a book before it was a computer game. Very cool game, but I haven't got the 2nd yet. I almost bought it on Ebay a couple weeks ago. They have all of these games on Ebay frequently, so if anyone wants them they're easy to get.
  • ShaggEShaggE
    edited June 2007
    Ooh, I forgot about Sanitarium! I've never played anything like it.
  • jp-30jp-30
    edited June 2007
    Hmm. Subject to change

    1. Day of the Tentacle
    2. Secret of Monkey Island
    3. Blade Runner
    4. Zork I
    5. Indiana Jones & the Fate of Atlantis

    Oh, man. I'm showing my age, so...

    6. Sam & Max Season 1: Abe Lincoln Must Die
  • TheCleaningGuyTheCleaningGuy
    edited June 2007
    How about the Neverhood? It was a charming little claymation adventure that is now kind of a cult classic. Now that the company that worked on it is dead, It would be great if telltale could grab the license. (hint hint)
  • ShaggEShaggE
    edited June 2007
    D'OH! I forgot about The Neverhood, too!
  • taumeltaumel
    edited June 2007
    Their list is a joke.

    As for graphical point&clicks i would say: The Dig, Broken Sword I, Monkey Island I, Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis, Grim Fandango, Beneath a Steel Sky, The Day of Tentacle, Zak Mc Kracken, Simon the Sorcerer I, Loom.
  • purple_monkfishpurple_monkfish
    edited June 2007
    I've never played the dig either.. man.. I've been sorly deprived. To be fair, growing up it wasn't that easy to obtain games.. NZ wasn't exactly the most saturated market if you know what I mean. It took a trip to america for me to get the first monkey island, along with indy and loom etc in the classic adventure box set. I recently got a hold of a new manual for it, my ex lost the damned manual years ago.. grrr.

    Fate of alantis! yes! I loved that game it was fun! Beneath a steel sky was good fun too, I loved Joey.

    Hmm.. I think my fave sam and max season one is episode 5 actually, I just loved the text adventure part at the end.. hahahah. My Zork obsession shone through! I almost expected grues.
  • AdamGAdamG
    edited June 2007
    I haven't played "The Dig" either, but when I was a much younger I always saw it in the store and wondered what it was. I just never bought it... :/ Oh well, another Ebay purchase I guess.
  • Oilers99Oilers99
    edited June 2007
    The second Monkey Island instead of the third? The Longest Journey (and its sequel was not disappointing, it was about on par, superior emotionally and inferior gameplay-wise) but no Syberia? What's a game with as poor puzzle design as Sam and Max doing on that list at all? If they wanted Sam and Max on that list, they should put the Telltale ones on there. There's some craziness going on there. But more than that, this just reminds me that I've still got a lot of graphic adventure games to track down, and little money to do it with.

    You people are destroying my financial well-being! *runs off crying*

    *comes back*

    Uh, any other suggestions?
  • jmmjmm
    edited June 2007
    The Dig was an Ok game. The music, mood and settings were great but it shows that several different attempts to finish the game took place, each with a different approach. A clear example are the different cut-scenes which show different designs for the main characters.

    A great game to try is BladeRunner, if you're into scifi themed games. The game was remarkable for its graphics (settings, lightning) which didn't had 3d acceleration and the stories, which were broadly the same but since the game changed clues and dialogs, there were around 10 different endings depending on the players action (For instance, you could choose to retire (kill) replicants or just leave them)
  • jp-30jp-30
    edited June 2007
    purple_monkfish wrote: »
    I've never played the dig either.. man.. I've been sorly deprived. To be fair, growing up it wasn't that easy to obtain games.. NZ wasn't exactly the most saturated market if you know what I mean.

    It's been re-released in NZ recently, updated to run in WinXP (along with Full Throttle, Sam & Max Hit The Road & Grim Fandango).

    You can get it here for NZ$15;

    http://www.gpstore.co.nz/Games/1452702.html

    Or at The Warehouse, where it's just $10 (though can be hard to find, they only seem to carry limited numbers).
  • taumeltaumel
    edited June 2007
    The Dig was not perfect if you count in each discipline (as you've named different graphics styles) but it was almost perfect as a game in a whole in my opinion. The story, the setting, the atmosphere, the characters, the complete sounddesign was so well done. Maybe it even could have been better if you read what they redesigned and threw out again but still it's a marvel. If you haven't played it, it's really one you should try to get your hands on. In a whole it's simply the best adventure ever done, followed by Broken Sword I and Monkey Island I.
  • jmmjmm
    edited June 2007
    @taumel: Although I value your opinion, I stand by mine.

    A good story can be crippled by a mediocre story teller. In the case of the Dig, I felt that the story was told by a couple of different people that didn't know what the others would tell or had told already. The gameplay (including puzzle design) and character design suffered from the same too (Check the different Brink versions). Pity, because the game could have been a classic (and not just a cult classic)

    I agree with you on a few things: The atmosphere and music (By Michael Z. Land‎) are superb and everyone should play The Dig.

    I disagree on the sound design; in particular the voice acting was below par and the sound effects were average.
  • taumeltaumel
    edited June 2007
    As i said before if you observe each discipline and add the scores for each one then The Dig probably won't win as the best adventure but if i take the overall experience of the game and see it in a whole then it's the winner for me. It just plays somekind of strings inside of me.

    I really liked the voices of the characters in The Dig in the english version. Ludger Brink's accent and so on...ahhh...i would love to work on and/or play a adventure game with such a spirit sooo much...

    How do your top three look like?
  • stoney1981stoney1981
    edited August 2009
    Judging only by GFX and Ambient Sound and Score, i think some Myst Game should be the winner. Ever fired up Riven? It still looks nice by todays standards, while the Original game looks dated.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9KDQoznJwE
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QJRz3OFl9I
  • patterspatters
    edited August 2009
    This pretty much single handedly shows why I detest Ign (other than their terrible approach to journalism). Leave out full throttle, Broken Sword among many others; well done.
  • Secret FawfulSecret Fawful
    edited August 2009
    patters wrote: »
    This pretty much single handedly shows why I detest Ign (other than their terrible approach to journalism). Leave out full throttle, Broken Sword among many others; well done.

    I think they picked the best of what Lucasarts had, and hey Grim Fandango made first. I mean come on, Lucasarts didn't make the ONLY great adventure games, and IGN had a lot to chose from. To be fair though, I am shocked we didn't see Space Quest on there somewhere, but we did get Kings Quest, Police Quest, and Leisure Suit Larry.
  • SHODANFreemanSHODANFreeman
    edited August 2009
    Secret Fawful wrote: »
    I think they picked the best of what Lucasarts had, and hey Grim Fandango made first. I mean come on, Lucasarts didn't make the ONLY great adventure games, and IGN had a lot to chose from. To be fair though, I am shocked we didn't see Space Quest on there somewhere, but we did get Kings Quest, Police Quest, and Leisure Suit Larry.

    Broken Sword wasn't Lucasarts.
  • NimeniNimeni
    edited August 2009
    I'm just kind of miffed that they highlighted KQ 5 instead of KQ 6. Everyone knows the sixth one was better. Right? Right?

    Actually, it is kind of a bad list. Although there are some good ones on there, there are other better ones out there.

    Although it would be interesting to see a list that showed genre-altering games, because there has definitely been a progression in adventure games.
  • patterspatters
    edited August 2009
    Nimeni wrote: »
    I'm just kind of miffed that they highlighted KQ 5 instead of KQ 6. Everyone knows the sixth one was better. Right? Right?

    Actually, it is kind of a bad list. Although there are some good ones on there, there are other better ones out there.

    Although it would be interesting to see a list that showed genre-altering games, because there has definitely been a progression in adventure games.

    I was going to put this forward, but I'm not a Sierra fan.
  • Secret FawfulSecret Fawful
    edited August 2009
    Pale Man wrote: »
    Broken Sword wasn't Lucasarts.

    I know. I just didn't bother to mention it.
  • Toothless GibbonToothless Gibbon
    edited August 2009
    Longest Journey better than MI2.... Okaaaaayyyyy.
  • BrainiacBrainiac
    edited August 2009
    The big problem with lists like this is most likely the writer has never played some of the more obscure gems of the genre (The Last Express comes to mind) or other titles that many people consider great. The only real objection I have is choosing KQ5 over KQ6. KQ5 was revolutionary for its time but KQ6 improved so much that it's really the better game. I have a soft spot for KQ5 simply for being my first King's Quest game (and one of my first adventure games) but I still recognize KQ6 as superior. As I said elsewhere, Jane Jensen (working with Roberta Williams in this case, of course) has never failed to deliver.
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