Has any one else changed their opinion on kenny?
I thought he was fine early on but honestly after ep2 i feel hes a lose cannon. He smashed the brick over larry's face even if he was dead... On top that he just seems to be selfish and honestly if given chance he would kill me or leave me for his family i honestly starting side with lilly more.
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He did that to me as well, but I thought it was just cause he was still pissed about me not taking his side all the time. Even so, it was pretty messed up. And Lilly definitely saved my ass a couple times on the farm.
I heard that if you always side with him, he'll come out and help you while you're fighting Danny... Dunno for sure as I haven't checked it out yet, but that's what I've seen other people say.
Hell, that scene shows Lily to be a hypocrite too: back in episode 1 she wanted to leave you outside and berates Carley and the others for helping you and sides with her dad in throwing Duck out, yet when it's her dad she refuses to act in the same way (at least Kenny had the excuse that it looked like he was already dead, Duck was alive when Larry wanted him killed).
To be fair, Duck was covered in blood and thought to be bitten. They didn't want a little zombie kid running around the store, which is very understandable. It was, essentially, the same situation for Kenny as it was for Lilly, but in the end, Lilly didn't kill anybody, Kenny did. That shows that Lilly can at least be reasoned with, and won't panic as easily as Kenny.
With the last person who knows about what Lee did gone, and no option of flat out telling everyone yourself, people probably aren't going to find out for a while, which is going to make it worse for you when they do find out. And when they inevitably do, I'd rather have my fate in Lilly's hands than Kenny's.
This was the major letdown for me. I didn't really cared that he killed Larry.
He was an a** , and he didn't seem to be responding to Lilly's treatment
(and she would go on till Larry turned and eat her anyway).
But not helping me out in the barn, the man that saved his son no less, against
just 1 guy, I can't forgive that. And it's not like I sided with Lilly either. I took no side basically. Really no excuse for him.
i've did nothing but agree with him. only disagreements i had was who should be in charged of the group (i rode the fence), and didn't agree with killing larry. then when the farmers attack me, he hides. LOOKS ME DEAD IN MY EYES AND DOESN'T DO A THING TO HELP.
if i get a chance to, i'm killing kenny now; and duck. ride off into the sunset with all the white women to myself.
when he ran off with his kid instead of helping hershels son
I backed him at the farm when Shawn got killed, I defended him when Larry thought Duck was bitten and I smashed Larry's head in the meat locker believing he was doomed anyways. Kenny may have been a little iffy at the dairy but it's being protective of his family.
that's just it, it's only thinking about his family
if there were a boat, (which he's probably lying about), what are the odds he wouldn't just go with his family? he almost let me die in the barn. i don't see him as someone who'd take 'extra baggage' if things get tight. he's already contemplating leaving the group.
He helped me out with Danny and i think he was right about Larry.
He worries about people who cares for him and agree with him. A bit selfish but at the moment he support me.
Those are tough decisions and anyone was right or wrong. This is only survival.
Larry, in the other hand, was a psycho and he was not better than Kenny.
Kenny supporter #1
Let's see if I keep agreeing with him in the next episode.
No, Lily and Larry don't kill Duck because the zombie in the toilet attacks and Larry has a heart issue that distracts them from doing so, had that not happened Larry would have been caving in that kid's skull. Being covered in dirt but still obviously alive is different from having no pulse and not breathing, if we went around killing everyone who has dirt on them then we'd be doing the zombies' job for them. The least he could do was to check the boy for bites before demanding his death.
The point later on in the first episode where he threatens you that if Clementine gets hurt he'll kill you just shows what a lying hypocrite he is also: he was willing to kill a kid and yet he expects us to believe that he cares for Clementine? I call bullshit on him there, especially when you see no other action on his part to care for her, he's just looking for excuses. Kenny on the other has proven that he will look after his family at any cost, so I at least know where I stand with him.
and...he's got a boat
Also, is funny the way he complains that Lilly acts like a dictator, but he is not different at all. In fact, the only difference is that Lilly acts like a dictator over the group to keep the group alive while Kenny does that same to keep his family alive.
I still think he can be a good guy and very helpful for the group (not to mention the importance of his boat), but he must embrace the group as his family too.
well, kenny shows a very ugly side when you dont devote 110% loyalty to him. i only disagreed with him once and he hid in the barn while danny attacked me.
This quoted for truth. Kenny is obviously not the type of person who makes very good decisions when he is panicked - at least, he doesn't jump in like a hero, the way Lee does.
I think TTG did a good job with his character. We want to believe that Kenny is a man who is in line with our morality - we try to reinforce this when we console him after he takes blame for Shawn's death. And surprise - Kenny had his own moral standards.
That being said, I don't think that Kenny was wrong. Larry is clearly a polarizing figure, and Kenny makes it clear to you in the beginning that you need to pick a side. Nobody should be surprised that he decides not to help you when you make it clear that you are not siding with him.
I agree! Kenny is very one sided. If it does not directly help him or his family, he wants nothing to do with it. I really did appreciate Kenny in the first episode, but i think they are really showing his true colors now.
Exactly this. Keep in mind that however polarizing he was as a character, Larry never had any real power. Your conflict - ideologically, anyway - was never with him, it was with Lilly and Kenny. That's who you have to choose between. Lilly can be reasoned with (especially now, when she no longer has her father yelling in her ear), Kenny can't. Kenny decides what he thinks is right and won't be talked out of it. He also panics and makes very rash decisions when he does.
Try thinking about what it would have been like if he and Lilly had their roles reversed. Lilly may have had a harsh stance when they brought Duck in at the drugstore, but at least she stopped to argue about it - and she certainly wasn't acting out of panic. If it had been Kenny in the drug store and someone came in that they thought had been bitten, he would have rushed over and beat the guy's brains in out of panic before anyone could stop him.
And try to imagine if Kenny was the one rationing the food. Lilly's rationing was strict but fair - she didn't play favorites. Kenny would have made sure he and his family got fed, then maybe Lee and Clementine (if he liked them that day) and everyone else would get what was left.
Lilly is harsh but she's concerned about keeping EVERYONE alive.
I certainly don't mind that he looks for his family, but yeah, he seems like a person who would do anything out of panic...He's my bro so I hope he doesn't do anything stupid.
With Kenny saying that he has a way out (the boat), makes me wonder if he wasn't just saying that to maybe get someone on his side just to use that extra person as an "extra life", or sacrifice if you will. Just reeks of the whole "I'm going to be your friend up to where I don't need you anymore and I'm just going to kill you once I got my plans sorted out". Kenny probably did go back for you in EP1 because he saw you as a person who could get him and his family to Fort Lauderdale safely.
I noticed the same thing. I think Larry definitely had a control or influence on her before. It will be interesting to see how she acts in episode 3. c:
Kenny expects loyalty from his friends. You can't just oppose him in an important decision and expect to retain his trust.
I haven't changed my opinion about him, mainly cause I hate Lilly almost as much as Larry and Kenny seems to share my views there.
I got the impression Lilly didn't want to steal out of the car just for the sake of opposing Kenny whenever she could.
at this point, it's not about his trust; as it's a two way street. as i said, i've devoted 110% loyalty to kenny with the one disagreement of not murdering larry. this is after i've fed his children, had ducks back when ppl thought he was bitten, etc. yet when danny tried to kill, carly is the one who had my back. if i have to agree with killing larry just to gain kennys acceptance; fuck him.
LOL! I Never noticed that last bit until now, plus one is plump and fertile as she already has a kid so...Plus you got the slim attractive one. Lee is all set. Leave it to some California developers to give you that.
But back to the topic at hand:
My view on Kenny has changed. I use to like him but after I see how much of a coward and opportunist he is I can't stand him. I was willing to forgive the Farm move. But hiding as Lee was getting attacked was too disloyal.
I was really only on his side for the boat ride and the car ride. But now I am starting to think he may not have room on his fishing boat for everyone. I am thinking he may only have room or supplies for just his family or maybe one other person. A nice kicker would be if he has room for just his family and Clem.
As far as I am concerned Lilly has pulled her weight and as long as she continues to be a straight arrow I don't see why Lee doesn't side with her more often than Kenny.
I think so too. If she was against it, she wouldn't have accepted a box of supplies.
Lee on the other hand, when he decided to not take the the supplies from the car, stood aside and just held Clementine's hand. Lilly still accepted the goodies.
Explode a head of a man that suffer a hearth attack 2 minutes ago? how you know hes already dead? Sorry Kenny but you murdered him.
But i know he have good intentions anyway