The Sam and Max-DeSoto
Hello there, everybody!
I always wondered, what kind of DeSoto exacly Sam and Max own. Doing the research to answer that question, I got the Idea, that Sam and Max changed their Desoto (bought a new one or stuff) before Season one begins (or the designers didn't work carefully, which i don't assume)..
So, firstly there's another Logo on the Side of the car.. Before Season 1, there ALWAYS was a STAR (different stars sometimes, ok, but a star), like here, on the cover of htr.. And well, looking at that cover, another thing appealed to me: In season one, they drive a cabriolet. Before, it's always a normal car.. It may look as if they'd drive a cabriot on the htr-cover, too, but that's the windows -> In the game, you can see the roof, like here -> http://home.arcor.de/agenti/HittheRoad.JPG
Well that about the different car in Season one.. but hey, perhaps they took a saw and sawed the roof off? (and oversprayed the star)?.. No, they didn't, because the season 1 desoto seems to be a completely different model.. watch that: http://www.the-nextlevel.com/reviews/pc/sam-max-culture-shock/sam-max-culture-shock-desoto.jpg and compare it to the htr-desotos above.. the rear is a LOT bigger than in htr.. Also, it looks completely different than the one from the DeSoto Firedome, which i first guessed to be the sam and max-desoto. Like this one: http://www.seriouswheels.com/pics-1950-1959/1959-Desoto-Firedome-2dr-ma-2.jpg But that can't be true at any point, cause the firedome always got 3 seperated lights on each side (as you can see on the picture).. The Sam and Max Desoto hasn't, which means, it must be after 1960-desoto, because every desoto in a long time before had those 3 lights... So it HAS to be a 1960-fireflite or an 1960-adventurer (The 1961-adventurer has different front lights).. In MY opinion, it HAS to be the fireflite, because the adventurer is much bigger than the sam and max-desoto.. But since season 1, the sam and max - desoto is also got much bigger, and it looks more like an adventurer, if you just look at those 2 opportunities, because in fact, i think the season 1-desoto doesn't look like an existing DeSoto at all! (because of it's giat rear)..
however, what do you think?
I always wondered, what kind of DeSoto exacly Sam and Max own. Doing the research to answer that question, I got the Idea, that Sam and Max changed their Desoto (bought a new one or stuff) before Season one begins (or the designers didn't work carefully, which i don't assume)..
So, firstly there's another Logo on the Side of the car.. Before Season 1, there ALWAYS was a STAR (different stars sometimes, ok, but a star), like here, on the cover of htr.. And well, looking at that cover, another thing appealed to me: In season one, they drive a cabriolet. Before, it's always a normal car.. It may look as if they'd drive a cabriot on the htr-cover, too, but that's the windows -> In the game, you can see the roof, like here -> http://home.arcor.de/agenti/HittheRoad.JPG
Well that about the different car in Season one.. but hey, perhaps they took a saw and sawed the roof off? (and oversprayed the star)?.. No, they didn't, because the season 1 desoto seems to be a completely different model.. watch that: http://www.the-nextlevel.com/reviews/pc/sam-max-culture-shock/sam-max-culture-shock-desoto.jpg and compare it to the htr-desotos above.. the rear is a LOT bigger than in htr.. Also, it looks completely different than the one from the DeSoto Firedome, which i first guessed to be the sam and max-desoto. Like this one: http://www.seriouswheels.com/pics-1950-1959/1959-Desoto-Firedome-2dr-ma-2.jpg But that can't be true at any point, cause the firedome always got 3 seperated lights on each side (as you can see on the picture).. The Sam and Max Desoto hasn't, which means, it must be after 1960-desoto, because every desoto in a long time before had those 3 lights... So it HAS to be a 1960-fireflite or an 1960-adventurer (The 1961-adventurer has different front lights).. In MY opinion, it HAS to be the fireflite, because the adventurer is much bigger than the sam and max-desoto.. But since season 1, the sam and max - desoto is also got much bigger, and it looks more like an adventurer, if you just look at those 2 opportunities, because in fact, i think the season 1-desoto doesn't look like an existing DeSoto at all! (because of it's giat rear)..
however, what do you think?
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I don't know if that's the 'official explanation' anymore, in the games, but the idea of it rusting away from unuse was some of the original inspiration.
1) Max ate the roof (I said I was sorry!)
or
2) They drove under a taller truck, which totally stripped the roof off.
Anybody have a top-down picture of the Sam & Max Desoto? Any version should be okay.
Correct, something along the lines of
Sam : "Do you remember what happend to our old car max?"
Max : "Quit nagging me about it already!"
Then again, if the ending credits for Episode 6 are any indication of Max's driving skill, maybe Sam made the same mistake he did in the introduction to Hit the Road and let Max behind the wheel again.
I'd be hard-pressed decide between the Fireflite and the Adventurer (which, honestly, I can't really tell the difference between anyway), but it's been stated elsewhere that it's an Adventurer, so I see no reason to argue.
The Season 1 car has a few modifications from any standard 1960 DeSoto Fireflite\Adventurer - it's a convertible (or at least it's been converted, considering we don't know for sure that the top actually does go back up), it's got the hood scoop and the side-pipes, there are covers on the rear wheel-wells, the side mirrors are missing, and the hood ornament and other bits of trim have been replaced with some fancy bits of pinstriping.
Whatever, it's clear now, that the old desoto was a 1960 adventurer.. But I don't think the Season1 Desoto is a normal desoto anyway.. I think it's some kind of a complete new invented car, that looks a bit like a desoto.. Actually, as we can see in the webcomic, Sam and Max are now in the 00's, not in the "whatever htr played in"'s.. So perhaps because they didn't find a cool desoto (the rust got them all) they went to a custom-plasticine-car-designer and told him to make a cool, new desoto-like thing.. Let's just call it the INFERNAL SUPER-DESOTO...
However..
That is a very beautiful car. I always thought it was a DeSoto Adventurer they were driving, but now I'm pretty sure it's the Fireflite. Allthough the custom job has to be done from a tudor, unless you shorten the car. I think the original Sam & Max car (from the old days, before hitting the road) was pretty much like this one (despite the red paintjob)
Oh wait! Look at this: http://www.plan59.com/images/JPGs/des60cvr01.jpg
It's a '60 Adventurer, and it's pretty similar to the Season one car atleast. And I think the front end in this looks more like Sam & Max's got in their car, than the Fireflite does.
And when I'm old enough, I'm definately gonna have one of these!
...IF:
-Gasoline won't be so dastardly expensive! (1.4€ per liter nowadays in here. That's almost 2 bucks!!
(3.7854118 liters = 1 US gallon)(It's an astounding 7.31500547 USD per gallon for god sake!)) And yet, in some other countries the prices are even higher, about 10 USD per gallon!! Gawd.
-It's not destroying the world to drive an old polluting car like these after 10 years (and further) from now
Damn, 6 more years.. only 4 if I would live in the USA.
Sorry for the offtopic
Either way (Adventurer or Fireflite) it'd have to be a custom job, as it combines elements that never existed together on a single production vehicle.
Yeah, and overall, It's a car that originally was in a comic, so it's not meant to be accurately any specific model, just a recognisable DeSoto. And fans are always trying to discover all accurate info of the cars, just like I tried to discover what car is most likely Homers or Marges car. The best result was just that Homer had some 70's coupe with cadillac rear but definately not Cadillac front. And Marge has most likely a 'fuselage' Plymouth Suburban from 1970-'74
www.fuselage.de for more info about 'fuselage' styled cars (they're long flat, fat luxury cars from the seventies, and they're manufactured by Mopar / invented atleast)
BTW I made the avatar of it yesterday.
Or at Pixar's Motorama.
And because I remembered this thread, I thought I might let you know about it.
You can watch it here:
http://www.4players.de/4players.php/tvplayer/4PlayersTV/Alle/7684/11241/Sam_&_Max_Season_1/Steve_Purcell.html
http://www.the-nextlevel.com/reviews/pc/sam-max-culture-shock/sam-max-culture-shock-desoto.jpg
http://www.lhmopars.com/Bellmore_Images/Dscn0004.jpg
http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/desoto-cars-6.jpg
http://www.gameboomers.com/Pressreleases/Sam&Max/DesotoTop.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3a/Desotobrochure60.jpg
http://www.motorbase.com/pictures/contributions/991202//std_1960_desoto_adventurer_2.jpg
http://www.chicagocarexchange.com/resize.asp?image=3145dint.JPG&size=800
http://www.chicagocarexchange.com/resize.asp?image=3145lf34.JPG&size=800
I know it's a hell of a lot of links, but just check them and see what you think.
When and why did they buy a new car? (from the obvious differences in the original S+M desoto and the TT one, AND from Sam's comment "Remember our old car max?")
I'd also ask how they paid for it, but consideirng the cash they have at their disposal for boscotech devices, clearly it wouldn't be a problem... lol
Remember the free time they had before Episode 101 + the way they get 10K in Episode 101.
Lets say 10 "users" per week (thats only 2 per day), 52 weeks per year, lets say 10 years... 10*10,000*52*10 = $52,000,000
oh and it's a page and many weeks late, but I'd like to say thanks to Jake for that top-down rendering of the Desoto, Somone here out to gather up the verious angles and make a visual of it from all angles...
HaHa,Thats funny and makes sense considering that the 57-61 Chryslers were infamously rust prone.
Even in california it was hard for me to find one without rust!
Hi,while the fireflite has the same general body style,Its definetly an Adventurer! at least in the comics.
If you look at the panel in "Monkeys violating the heavenly temple" where Sam instructs Max to say hello to his unsavory pals,you can see that Steve has drawn the special stainless steel roof trim that only the Adventurer has.
You can also see the outline of the special Adventurer roof trim in the big first panel of "Sam and Max on the road" part 2 "I love a band leader"
Definetly an Adventurer!
I have a real 1960 Adventurer so I am quite familiar with the car.
Besides the Adventurer was top of the line and had a 383 v8,why would Sam and Max have settled for anything less?
One funny thing I always notice is that Steve Purcell draws the mirror on the windshield when in real life the 1960 DeSoto has a dash mounted mirror,they work great and look cool unless you have folks riding in the back seat!/SIZE]
Just a guess but I think the reason they changed the car for the video games was so that Sam and Max wouldnt be obscured by the roof of the car.
I personally like the old stock 2dr hardtop Adventurer best. The whole "kustom" thing has become a cliche,everyone does the same thing,flames,sidepipes,etc.
To me its like drawing a mustache on the Mona Lisa....(hmmm,on second though that sounds kind of fun!)
Thankfully its just a video game and no real DeSotos were harmed, lol!
Just my personal opinion,but I love the way the Forward look cars look stock.
Virgil Exner was way ahead of his time,and was a big influence on the auto industry back in the day.
If you look at the 1959 GM lineup they are a direct reaction to Chryslers 1957 Forward look cars,the low 2dr coupe rooflines,the agressive grille,especially the 1959 Buick (my personal favorite GM 50's car) they have tons of Exners styling cues.
They were great handling cars too,thanks to "torsion-aire" front suspension they would out handle the fords and chevys.
Some more DeSoto facts-
DeSoto didnt have a convertible in 1960.
1960 was also the year they switched to unibody construction and the final year for the Adventurer.
Stuffing the muffler of a DeSoto with match heads wont get you to the moon!
There were only 3,092 Adventurer 2 door hardtops made,so they are quite scarce now!
Only a handful survived.
I love mine,I think its the most beautiful DeSoto ever made.
It sure gets lots of attention and baffles people when they see it..."Hey Mister!? what years your Cadillac?" and what are "Sam-n-Max"?
Dont they teach kids anything in school nowadays??!!
Matt Groening used to drive a beat up old dodge with a coathanger antenna back when he was doing his "Life in Hell" comics.
But does the Desoto from Hit the Road look different to the Adventurer. I thougth it´s another one.
I´ve an 1/43 scale model from a Edsel (not that from MM). I think I must buy a Desoto scale model.
Or please make an officially Sam and Max Freelance Police scale model.