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After-dinner Mark [SPOILERS]

KaapoKaapo
edited July 2012 in The Walking Dead
I've noticed many fishy and illogical things and events taking place after the dinner, but one in particular has been bugging me:

How did Mark end up as a walker (or should I say crawler) upstairs after the dinner when you confront Brenda?

Everyone will remember Mark crawling downstairs and in front of the dining room before Lee gets knocked out. Why on earth would the St. Johns carry him back upstairs and leave what remained of his body intact? He was obviously either dead or dying, so they would have a crawling zombie upstairs while busy dealing with the people in Lee's group. It was a completely unnecessary risk - they could just have bashed Mark's head in, or thrown him on the other side of the fence (although he might've been able to crawl underneath the fence without getting electrocuted).

Of course it was quite heartwarming to see Mark helping out the group even after his death, but it still seems ridiculous.

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  • psencipsenci
    edited July 2012
    Maybe they thought that they could still use his... ehm... "Meat", so they took him upstairs to "heal" him and keep him alive for more time.
    Then the situation went out of control, Mark was left unatended, died in the end, and Brenda wasn't even aware that he was dead and waiting upstairs to take a bite himself (oh, the irony).
  • SaracenarSaracenar
    edited July 2012
    I'd say they panicked when things started to get out of control. They didn't want any of the meat to go to waste so they dragged Mark back upstairs and left him there with the doors closed. In a rush of adrenaline Mark managed to get the doors open but succumbed to his wounds and was reanimated, only to crawl out to the staircase when he heard the commotion that was Brenda threatening Lee.

    At least that's my idea of what happened. Poor Mark.
  • KaapoKaapo
    edited July 2012
    If they were still going to use Mark for food though, why did they bring Kenny's family in the house? I recall Andy saying they only wanted to keep one of the group alive, probably Katjaa since they needed a vet, so why'd they bring Duck in the house if not to butcher him next? I can't figure any other reason for taking Duck out of the meat locker. But if they really were still going to use Mark as food they wouldn't have needed to get anyone else out for food yet.
  • psencipsenci
    edited July 2012
    Duck stayed inside the house cause he wanted to finish his plate.
  • Gman5852Gman5852
    edited July 2012
    Kaapo wrote: »
    If they were still going to use Mark for food though, why did they bring Kenny's family in the house? I recall Andy saying they only wanted to keep one of the group alive, probably Katjaa since they needed a vet, so why'd they bring Duck in the house if not to butcher him next? I can't figure any other reason for taking Duck out of the meat locker. But if they really were still going to use Mark as food they wouldn't have needed to get anyone else out for food yet.

    They used Duck as a bargaining tactic for Katjaa.
  • ZombieGoBoomZombieGoBoom
    edited July 2012
    I think they were planning to pick off as many of Lee's group as they could for meat and kill the rest. Then they were discovered and everything they had plan went out the window.
  • psencipsenci
    edited July 2012
    Gman5852 wrote: »
    They used Duck as a bargaining tactic for Katjaa.
    This.


    But he still wanted to finish his plate.
  • greenj2greenj2
    edited July 2012
    They'd already gone to a lot of trouble in keeping Mark alive up to that point. Also, as Brenda said herself "Growing up in rural Georgia teaches one not to waste".

    Likely they just dragged him back upstairs and forgot about him in the commotion of taking Kenny's family hostage and locking the rest in the meat freezer.

    Off the top of my head I'd say they probably took Duck into the house to use as leverage against Katjaa and keep her an obedient hostage. She'd do anything they told her to if they threatened to hurt Duck.
    Gman5852 wrote: »
    They used Duck as a bargaining tactic for Katjaa.
    psenci wrote: »
    But he still wanted to finish his plate.

    Also, this. ^^^
  • The_Jesus_12489The_Jesus_12489
    edited July 2012
    *spoilers ahead* To refer to the comics, when dale is captured and his legs are eaten, he also wonders why he is kept alive. The canablas say the meat stays better longer if their vicitim is alive longer. So the train of thought was that he was still alive and wanted to keep him in that state for as long as possible
  • jangjangchangjangjangchang
    edited July 2012
    MAYBE THEY DIDN'T KNOW EVERYONE TURNS! Just because your group knows doesn't mean the worlds founds out. Maybe they were going to use him for more food.
  • ZombiefaceZombieface
    edited July 2012
    greenj2 wrote: »
    They'd already gone to a lot of trouble in keeping Mark alive up to that point. Also, as Brenda said herself "Growing up in rural Georgia teaches one not to waste".

    Likely they just dragged him back upstairs and forgot about him in the commotion of taking Kenny's family hostage and locking the rest in the meat freezer.

    Off the top of my head I'd say they probably took Duck into the house to use as leverage against Katjaa and keep her an obedient hostage. She'd do anything they told her to if they threatened to hurt Duck.



    Also, this. ^^^


    This ^^ lol :)
  • ZombiefaceZombieface
    edited July 2012
    The_Jesus_12489 wrote: »
    *spoilers ahead* To refer to the comics, when dale is captured and his legs are eaten, he also wonders why he is kept alive. The canablas say the meat stays better longer if their vicitim is alive longer. So the train of thought was that he was still alive and wanted to keep him in that state for as long as possible

    cept, that !SPOILER! Dale already WAS tainted meat! hahaha "You're eating TAINTED MEAT! TAINTED MEAT! TAINTED MEAT! *MENIACLE CACKLE*" !ANOTHER SPOILER! ... oh fuck it, I don't want to ruin everything for everyone who hasn't read! lol
  • CapnJayCapnJay Banned
    edited July 2012
    I love this thread title

    would you like an after dinner mark?
  • magic88889magic88889
    edited July 2012
    I had thought somebody said that you have to eat the meat before they turn because it goes bad.
  • ZeruisZeruis
    edited July 2012
    Ah, the wonders of continuity...Mark could have been taken upstairs so that he could not interfere with the farmers taking the people to the meat locker.
  • Wilder41Wilder41
    edited July 2012
    jangjangchang wrote: »
    MAYBE THEY DIDN'T KNOW EVERYONE TURNS! Just because your group knows doesn't mean the worlds founds out. Maybe they were going to use him for more food.

    Makes the most sense to me.
  • PuhChewyChompPuhChewyChomp
    edited July 2012
    So after eating however many people and butchering them they hadn't killed a single one of them?
  • WowMuttWowMutt
    edited July 2012
    OK so I gotta ask.. what do you serve when eating Mark?

    I figured he would be like pork. Maybe some gravy, mashed potato's, obviously corn. Proably milk to drink and for dessert? Peach Cobbler.
  • CapnJayCapnJay Banned
    edited July 2012
    hot buttered corn taters and gravy milk but i'd rather have a nice cola. and well its georgia so cobbler yep sounds good.


    soo how many people wouldnt have thrown up mark?
  • NessaTNessaT
    edited July 2012
    WowMutt wrote: »
    OK so I gotta ask.. what do you serve when eating Mark?

    I figured he would be like pork. Maybe some gravy, mashed potato's, obviously corn. Proably milk to drink and for dessert? Peach Cobbler.

    They served greens, mashed potatos and biscuits apparently.

    And the meat in the PC game looks red and raw. Made me sick. :X
  • WowMuttWowMutt
    edited July 2012
    NessaT wrote: »
    They served greens, mashed potatos and biscuits apparently.

    And the meat in the PC game looks red and raw. Made me sick. :X

    Okay, but it was meant as a joke.. What would YOU serve with your rump roast Mark?
  • zgamerzgamer
    edited July 2012
    Kaapo wrote: »
    I've noticed many fishy and illogical things and events taking place after the dinner, but one in particular has been bugging me:

    How did Mark end up as a walker (or should I say crawler) upstairs after the dinner when you confront Brenda?

    Everyone will remember Mark crawling downstairs and in front of the dining room before Lee gets knocked out. Why on earth would the St. Johns carry him back upstairs and leave what remained of his body intact? He was obviously either dead or dying, so they would have a crawling zombie upstairs while busy dealing with the people in Lee's group. It was a completely unnecessary risk - they could just have bashed Mark's head in, or thrown him on the other side of the fence (although he might've been able to crawl underneath the fence without getting electrocuted).

    Of course it was quite heartwarming to see Mark helping out the group even after his death, but it still seems ridiculous.

    I think they were trying to keep him preserved and not screw up the situation more than the group already did. Plus, him bleeding out like crazy all over the floor when crawling down on top of everything probably killed him after they brought him back up. I did not see it as too illogical, though I did kind of predict it would happen.
  • zgamerzgamer
    edited July 2012
    WowMutt wrote: »
    Okay, but it was meant as a joke.. What would YOU serve with your rump roast Mark?

    I would have it lightly glazed with a bit of seasoning and served with sides of mashed potatoes, peas, gravy and dinner rolls. Oh, and strawberry lemonade to drink. A traditional home cooked meal :p
  • CapnJayCapnJay Banned
    edited July 2012
    wait do we get any options? is this our ideal Mark meal?
  • psencipsenci
    edited July 2012
    I would serve it with Soylent Green. Yummy!
  • CapnJayCapnJay Banned
    edited July 2012
    Mark Chops with Baked potato covered in butter sour cream cheese and ketchup Cold Coca Cola to drink and Strawberry Ice Cream


    edit: I know all that fattening is putting me on the list to be eaten next but mmmmmmmmm
  • psencipsenci
    edited July 2012
    This is probably a little weird but you guys are making me hungry.
  • CapnJayCapnJay Banned
    edited July 2012
    if anyone can make videos i have the perfect idea for a music video about this topic specifically the saint johns cannibalism

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g14aQyYYMZQ [the song was from one of the land before times but the only clear audio i could find is this version]
  • PuhChewyChompPuhChewyChomp
    edited July 2012
    psenci wrote: »
    i would serve it with soylent green. Yummy!

    it's people!
  • XarneXarne
    edited July 2012
    I tricked Larry into eating it the meat, we have a lovely chat about it in the meat locker :)
  • Rommel49Rommel49
    edited July 2012
    jangjangchang wrote: »
    MAYBE THEY DIDN'T KNOW EVERYONE TURNS! Just because your group knows doesn't mean the worlds founds out. Maybe they were going to use him for more food.

    They pretty clearly knew that everybody turns upon death. Danny basically says as much right before the decision to kill him or not, that if Lee kills him the meat'll be tainted and can't be eaten.

    There's also the fact that they've already had experience with people that died when there weren't any Walkers involved, e.g. the farmhands that were killed by the Bandits.
  • XirscheXirsche
    edited July 2012
    Who else agrees this very picture makes them hungry? O~o

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  • TheWaltzingBreadTheWaltzingBread
    edited July 2012
    They probably dragged him up the stairs, where he died of blood loss (or from having NO DAMN LEGS) and turned in to a walker.

    Mark became a part of Brenda, and then Brenda became a part of Mark, its the circle of life (or afterlife)
  • Master of AeonsMaster of Aeons
    edited July 2012
    jangjangchang wrote: »
    MAYBE THEY DIDN'T KNOW EVERYONE TURNS! Just because your group knows doesn't mean the worlds founds out. Maybe they were going to use him for more food.

    But in the conversation before you kill the first St. John, he pretty much tells you how to best preserve him so he doesn't turn. It's pretty clear that they know to keep people from turning into Walkers, but Lee and the gang took different actions which led to the St. Johns not being there to monitor their meat and Mark bled out from overexertion after being taken back upstairs.
  • JessabethJessabeth
    edited July 2012
    What I want to know is why no one questioned where they got the meat knowing that the farm only had one cow, which happened to be out back. xD
    They had said there rest of them died of illness.... >.>
  • XarneXarne
    edited July 2012
    Saracenar wrote: »
    I'd say they panicked when things started to get out of control. They didn't want any of the meat to go to waste so they dragged Mark back upstairs and left him there with the doors closed. In a rush of adrenaline Mark managed to get the doors open but succumbed to his wounds and was reanimated, only to crawl out to the staircase when he heard the commotion that was Brenda threatening Lee.

    At least that's my idea of what happened. Poor Mark.

    This sounds about right. They had him drugged up to keep him alive but sedate. Once he saw Lee his adrenaline kicked in or whatever...and we know the rest
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