Calm before the storm? [Speculation]

edited July 2012 in The Walking Dead
I'll get straight to the point of my proposal: Do you think we will see TTG's The Walking Dead get any darker than the climax of Starved For Help?

If so, I'd love to hear how. I'd also love to hear what direction you think the series will take, more so in the next episode, because anything beyond that is completely up in the air.

Personally, I think the next episode will see the power-struggle between Kenny and Lilly reach breaking point, and I think we will see one character from the group killing another. Maybe you'll get the choice to turn the other cheek, or to out the murderer. My guess is that Lilly will die next, and that Kenny will be in some way responsible. Katja is another strong possibility to die. Maybe Lilly will be to blame, and that will feed the fire?
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  • edited July 2012
    i think those are the only ways to get darker than "Starved for Help":
    1-Clementine being raped. (No way!!!! :( )
    2-Someone doing to Duck,(spoilers from the comics)
    what Negan did to Glenn.
    3- Katjaa being tortured to death.
    I don't think thats going to happend.... But it's the Walking Dead...

    And another thing.... Lilly DYING?... No way
  • edited July 2012
    I think it'll end up with Kenny and Lilly being put into a Carley/Doug situation near the end. If you pick to save Lilly, she stays until the end of Ep 5 and Kenny dies, or if you pick Kenny he survives as does she but she runs off in disgust to Woodsbury early. Although, for a truly dark scenario, in the final Ep there could be a Save Clem/Save the Rest choice, in which you either lose her to save everyone or vice versa.
  • edited July 2012
    in the final Ep there could be a Save Clem/Save the Rest choice, in which you either lose her to save everyone or vice versa.

    Wow, I never considered this! That would be very difficult to choose. I better give that some thought incase it does come up as a snap decision. Also, we have to remember that we may see Lee's parents make an appearence, or Clementine's! Maybe a decision between the two? Either way, it's hard-hitting stuff.
  • CapnJayCapnJay Banned
    edited July 2012
    I'll sacrifice the team to save Clementine which emphasis to Clem the value of the needs of the one over the needs of the few.

    Clem will never be raped and if anyone in the game even suggest that they'd try it they wont make it till the end of the episode {unless the Devs let the character escape} Kaatja being tortured to death... ehhh maybe i mean it's something that would make me feel bad but not make me completely lose interest in the game. Maybe that could be a Mercy Kill option. Have no idea about the glenn negane reference
  • edited July 2012
    i think those are the only ways to get darker than "Starved for Help":

    Suggestion 1, I think, would never be allowed - although, that certainly would be dark. Suggestions 2 and 3 are both very possible though. I bet we will see someone die at the hands of the bandits, perhaps through torture. A P.O.W scenario. Katja has already been taken hostage by Mama St. John, which doesn't mean it won't happen again.
  • CapnJayCapnJay Banned
    edited July 2012
    ElderBoss wrote: »
    Wow, I never considered this! That would be very difficult to choose. I better give that some thought incase it does come up as a snap decision. Also, we have to remember that we may see Lee's parents make an appearence, or Clementine's! Maybe a decision between the two? Either way, it's hard-hitting stuff.

    Lee's parents are DEEEEEAAAADDD

    my_parents_are_deeaaaaaad.jpg
  • edited July 2012
    CapnJay wrote: »
    I'll sacrifice the team to save Clementine which emphasis to Clem the value of the needs of the one over the needs of the few.

    Clem will never be raped and if anyone in the game even suggest that they'd try it they wont make it till the end of the episode {unless the Devs let the character escape} Kaatja being tortured to death... ehhh maybe i mean it's something that would make me feel bad but not make me completely lose interest in the game. Maybe that could be a Mercy Kill option. Have no idea about the glenn negane reference

    Damn plot shields!
    Maybe they'll be a bit where we can "trim the fat" - get rid of some "unnecessary characters...

    Mercy Kill sounds good, but what about a Sacrifice, a la Irene? Dissuading someone from sacrificing themselves and forcing someone else (maybe even you) to go?
  • edited July 2012
    Wasn't Jolene's daughter raped? Anyways, this will get darker. The group will start waning away from who they were before the apocalypse and become totally new people with new motives.
  • edited July 2012
    What about the TWD equivalent of Little Lamplight from Fallout 3, crossed with a bit of banditry?
  • CapnJayCapnJay Banned
    edited July 2012
    My Lee's motives are pure protect Clementine at all costs
  • CapnJayCapnJay Banned
    edited July 2012
    What about the TWD equivalent of Little Lamplight from Fallout 3, crossed with a bit of banditry?

    huh interesting. there were aspects of little lamplight that always bothered me
  • edited July 2012
    ElderBoss wrote: »
    Suggestion 1, I think, would never be allowed - although, that certainly would be dark. Suggestions 2 and 3 are both very possible though. I bet we will see someone die at the hands of the bandits, perhaps through torture. A P.O.W scenario. Katja has already been taken hostage by Mama St. John, which doesn't mean it won't happen again.

    I wrote Katjaa as an example. Could happend to anybody and still be dark. Just wrote Katjaa, because she is a woman with family.
  • edited July 2012
    i think those are the only ways to get darker than "Starved for Help":
    1-Clementine being raped. (No way!!!! :( )
    2-Someone doing to Duck,(spoilers from the comics)
    what Negan did to Glenn.
    3- Katjaa being tortured to death.
    I don't think thats going to happend.... But it's the Walking Dead...

    And another thing.... Lilly DYING?... No way

    I don't know enough about option two to comment. option one is...wow. I think that would take the story in a direction that neither the developers or the players are mature enough to handle. Seriously.

    Option three is boss.
  • edited July 2012
    CapnJay wrote: »
    huh interesting. there were aspects of little lamplight that always bothered me

    I myself always imagined they had a horrible secret...
    I wonder if the devs look at these ideas we suggest?
  • edited July 2012
    ElderBoss wrote: »
    My guess is that Lilly will die next, and that Kenny will be in some way responsible.

    Get this out of your mind. Lilly will NOT die in this season. She is a character in the actual comic book series, so she has to stay alive to fulfill her role there.
  • edited July 2012
    CapnJay wrote: »
    I'll sacrifice the team to save Clementine which emphasis to Clem the value of the needs of the one over the needs of the few.

    Clem will never be raped and if anyone in the game even suggest that they'd try it they wont make it till the end of the episode {unless the Devs let the character escape} Kaatja being tortured to death... ehhh maybe i mean it's something that would make me feel bad but not make me completely lose interest in the game. Maybe that could be a Mercy Kill option. Have no idea about the glenn negane reference

    Comic Book Spoiler:
    Negan destroied Glenn's brain with a baseball bat with barbwire.
  • edited July 2012
    The theme of
    cannibalism
    was very dark in episode 2. In my opinion, TT did a great job in surprising us. There are many other dark themes that can be used, such as persecution and war.
  • edited July 2012
    What about remnants of the former government or military (more solider like, not like Mark's sort who are "survivors") coming across our merry band and killing them in the name of keeping everything hush-hush or from believing that everyone outside their group is contaminated?
  • edited July 2012
    What about remnants of the former government or military (more solider like, not like Mark's sort who are "survivors") coming across our merry band and killing them in the name of keeping everything hush-hush or from believing that everyone outside their group is contaminated?

    Where is the government anyways? It would be cool to see it play a part in Lee's story(without the apparent need for a darker storyline).
  • CapnJayCapnJay Banned
    edited July 2012
    Zeruis wrote: »
    Where is the government anyways? It would be cool to see it play a part in Lee's story(without the apparent need for a darker storyline).

    Lee is locked up in a room press left to tilt left press right to tilt right untill lee falls over to escape.... Like the beginning of Arkham City.

    I myself always imagined they had a horrible secret...
    I wonder if the devs look at these ideas we suggest?


    Which horrible Secret the fact they eat strange meat and fungus that grows on corpses.

    or the fact that their can't be that many children in an over two hundred year old cave hideout without hanky panky going on.
  • edited July 2012
    Zeruis wrote: »
    Where is the government anyways? It would be cool to see it play a part in Lee's story(without the apparent need for a darker storyline).

    Probably collapsed or in hiding. But yeah, a sudden revelation as everyone learns that they'd been travelling with a murderer. If you have bad blood on either side of the Kenny/Lilly issue, that side's leader could try to kill you...
  • edited July 2012
    (Comic Book Spoilers)
    Most of the dark themes were already used by Kirkman: Torture, Rape, Hostage, even Cannibalism.... But Telltale did a great job "reusing" this last theme whit a new prespective, and without we feelling "This is just an imitation" or "This has already happend."
  • edited July 2012
    CapnJay wrote: »

    Which horrible Secret the fact they eat strange meat and fungus that grows on corpses.

    or the fact that their can't be that many children in an over two hundred year old cave without hanky panky going on.

    Aren't you thinking of Andale? Although I haven't played F3 in aeons...
    Probably the latter - I'm assuming your implying incest?
  • edited July 2012
    I wouldn't rule out at least the attempted rape of Clem. Carl had a rape referenced against him, but his dad killed someone long before it was a problem. I could see it working very easily into the story.

    If Lee's a normal, decent guy until something shakes him to the core - as we saw with his wife - then we're probably going to see that resurface in some way. I know the example was a guess, but I think we're in for some much darker times and a totally different Lee by the endgame.
  • edited July 2012
    Aren't you thinking of Andale? Although I haven't played F3 in aoens...

    Achoo! Someone say my name?
  • edited July 2012
    Achoo! Someone say my name?

    With my woeful spelling, yes :)
  • CapnJayCapnJay Banned
    edited July 2012
    Aren't you thinking of Andale? Although I haven't played F3 in aeons...
    Probably the latter - I'm assuming your implying incest?

    When you hit sixteen you get kicked out. if you get kicked out it's highly unlikely any babies you have are going to end up in Little Lamplight soooo Underage Sex and Pregnancy. Also Talk to the chef about the fungus and youll find out more about it.
  • edited July 2012
    I know this is an odd bit of speculation, but if Lee canonically dies near the end, do you think we would see through the eyes of/have limited control of walker Lee for a bit? By limited, I mean attacking person B instead of person A, or not attacking in the first "wave" of an attack on survivors, thereby saving yo zombie ass...
  • edited July 2012
    CapnJay wrote: »
    When you hit sixteen you get kicked out. if you get kicked out it's highly unlikely any babies you have are going to end up in Little Lamplight soooo Underage Sex and Pregnancy. Also Talk to the chef about the fungus and youll find out more about it.

    I knew about the getting kicked out, but I'd assumed their kids could live there. I don't remember the fungus...
    You just killed my happy Wonderkand-esque view of LL... But that's okay, cause I have Clem...
  • CapnJayCapnJay Banned
    edited July 2012
    I know this is an odd bit of speculation, but if Lee canonically dies near the end, do you think we would see through the eyes of/have limited control of walker Lee for a bit? By limited, I mean attacking person B instead of person A, or not attacking in the first "wave" of an attack on survivors, thereby saving yo zombie ass...

    that reminds me of that tv series from CW that vanished shortly after it was on the air. Where This woman kept getting attacked by people and she thought she was normal but it turned out she OD'd and was actually a Zombie now.
  • edited July 2012
    CapnJay wrote: »
    that reminds me of that tv series from CW that vanished shortly after it was on the air. Where This woman kept getting attacked by people and she thought she was normal but it turned out she OD'd and was actually a Zombie now.

    Why'd it vanish? It seems like it had an interesting premise...
  • edited July 2012
    Episode 2 isn't that Dark, I mean, it's Darker but... there are PLENTY of twisted things that can yet be done.
  • edited July 2012
    I think it'd be interesting to have an option to either save Kenny or save Katjaa and Duck.

    I'd be interested to see what a saved Kenny without his family (who is his main reason for being) would do.
  • CapnJayCapnJay Banned
    edited July 2012
    Why'd it vanish? It seems like it had an interesting premise...

    It was like a generic Masters of Horrors i'm guessing the Budget to Vieweship wasn't proper
  • edited July 2012
    jaybreezy wrote: »
    I think it'd be interesting to have an option to either save Kenny or save Katjaa and Duck.

    I'd be interested to see what a saved Kenny without his family (who is his main reason for being) would do.

    I predict that Katjaa won't be around for much longer. We all know Kenny's sole loyalty is to Duck.
  • CapnJayCapnJay Banned
    edited July 2012
    jaybreezy wrote: »
    I think it'd be interesting to have an option to either save Kenny or save Katjaa and Duck.

    I'd be interested to see what a saved Kenny without his family (who is his main reason for being) would do.

    Kaatja and Duck over Kenny anyday
  • edited July 2012
    jaybreezy wrote: »
    I think it'd be interesting to have an option to either save Kenny or save Katjaa and Duck.

    I'd be interested to see what a saved Kenny without his family (who is his main reason for being) would do.

    He'd probably scream and say that you shoulda saved them, then (depending on your relationship with him) hate you and run off or being a depressed Bro4Lyf.
    CapnJay wrote: »
    It was like a generic Masters of Horrors i'm guessing the Budget to Vieweship wasn't proper

    Oh...

    I still wanna see a fourth wall breaking occurance...
  • edited July 2012
    CapnJay wrote: »
    Kaatja and Duck over Kenny anyday

    Right. But you don't think seeing what actions Kenny would take without his family around would be at least somewhat interesting? And seeing how he would react towards you (Lee) for not saving his family instead.
  • CapnJayCapnJay Banned
    edited July 2012
    Oh it might be interesting but i'd still pick kaatja and duck. Kaatjas medical experience and Duck as a friend for Clem.

    I had a thought on Topic but im not sure if i should post it because it would take place several years down the line.
  • edited July 2012
    CapnJay wrote: »
    I had a thought on Topic but im not sure if i should post it because it would take place several years down the line.

    Post it!!! lol. I like hearing speculations or ideas.
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