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Do you think Lee is guilty?

thestalkingheadthestalkinghead
edited August 2012 in The Walking Dead
Lee is a convicted murderer, but do you think he is actually a murderer or do you think he was wrongfully convicted?

he could have been covering for his wife, or set up, or he could have lost it and gone mad and killed the senator for banging his wife, or he could have planned the murder.
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  • Death689GodDeath689God
    edited July 2012
    thestalkinghead wrote: »
    Lee i a convicted murderer, but do you think he is actually a murderer or do you think he was wrongfully convicted?

    he could have been covering for his wife, or set up, or he could have lost it and gone mad and killed the senator for banging his wife, or he could have planned the murder.

    I think Lee did it, it's how I'm playing him as well.
  • RappinReggieRappinReggie
    edited July 2012
    Death689God wrote: »
    I think Lee did it, it's how I'm playing him as well.

    Guilty, but justified....internally at least.

    As Snoop once said..."Hoes make the world harder than it hafta be"

    And lee's ex wife is a HO!!
  • Master of AeonsMaster of Aeons
    edited July 2012
    I think it was a crime of passion that he regrets.
  • SisterofshaneSisterofshane
    edited July 2012
    Master of Aeons wrote: »
    I think it was a crime of passion that he regrets.

    This is my feeling. He probably killed him in a "blind rage" type of way.
  • MilosuperspeshMilosuperspesh
    edited July 2012
    thread already exists so 'merge time'
  • thestalkingheadthestalkinghead
    edited July 2012
    Milosuperspesh wrote: »
    thread already exists so 'merge time'

    oh i didn't realise, where is it?
  • CapnJayCapnJay Banned
    edited July 2012
    I think thats the night when the lights went out in Georgia
  • WingSP117WingSP117
    edited July 2012
    I'm interested in seeing if how you play determines if Lee is guilty, but after conversations in episode 2.... I'm starting to think that Lee is guilty and looking for redemption.

    Need to play my asshole Lee file through episode 2 though.
  • thestalkingheadthestalkinghead
    edited July 2012
    CapnJay wrote: »
    I think thats the night when the lights went out in Georgia

    i don't get it?
  • WingSP117WingSP117
    edited July 2012
    thestalkinghead wrote: »
    i don't get it?

    It's a country music song about a cheating wife and murder in GA.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6-4N0IPVh8

    song of reference.
  • thestalkingheadthestalkinghead
    edited July 2012
    WingSP117 wrote: »
    It's a country music song about a cheating wife and murder in GA.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6-4N0IPVh8

    song of reference.

    ahh, so does this mean he thinks he is innocent
  • WingSP117WingSP117
    edited July 2012
    thestalkinghead wrote: »
    ahh, so does this mean he thinks he is innocent

    My guess from the poster is yes.
  • ZeruisZeruis
    edited July 2012
    I'm going to go on a limb here and say that he was wrongfully convicted.
  • WingSP117WingSP117
    edited July 2012
    Zeruis wrote: »
    I'm going to go on a limb here and say that he was wrongfully convicted.

    whose to say he didn't shoot and kill a zombie senator who had a heart attack while being with his cheating wife?


    hehe, wouldn't it be ironic if lee shot a zombie in the head and the same bullet killed his wife before the known outbreak?
  • thestalkingheadthestalkinghead
    edited July 2012
    well im glad im not the only one who didn't just accept that the character you are playing was a murderer, im just gonna leave my mind open until it gets confirmed though, but i hope he didn't do it and at the most it was accidental and a crime of passion(eg. gave him a punch and the guy fell and cracked his skull on the corner of some furniture, or whatever) the incident defiantly needs to be confirmed at some point
  • ZeruisZeruis
    edited July 2012
    WingSP117 wrote: »
    whose to say he didn't shoot and kill a zombie senator who had a heart attack while being with his cheating wife?


    hehe, wouldn't it be ironic if lee shot a zombie in the head and the same bullet killed his wife before the known outbreak?

    That's why he clams up about it whenever someone asks him.
  • WingSP117WingSP117
    edited July 2012
    thestalkinghead wrote: »
    well im glad im not the only one who just accepted that the character you are playing was a murderer, im just gonna leave my mind open until it gets confirmed though, but i hope he didn't do it and at the most it was accidental and a crime of passion(eg. gave him a punch and the guy fell and cracked his skull on the corner of some furniture, or whatever) the innocent defiantly needs to be confirmed at some point

    I agree, I can't wait until probably episode 5 where they revile what Lee did or didn't do in his story arc. Still hoping his past is choice based., but that might be too hard to continue in a second season.


    Unless Lee is a one season only character, if you know what I mean. x_x
  • ozzmannozzmann
    edited July 2012
    I do think he did it. However I believe it was either a crime of passion or possibly self defense.
    (Post #100 for me! I feel special, ya know the shortbus kinda special):D
  • RappinReggieRappinReggie
    edited July 2012
    I believe, judging from the first (audio flashback) in the barn at Hershels, there will be more dreams/realizations to come;)

    Hopefully anyway:confused:
  • CapnJayCapnJay Banned
    edited July 2012
    there will be one every odd numbered episode with 5 getting the fully story
  • Kiel555Kiel555
    edited July 2012
    thestalkinghead wrote: »
    Lee is a convicted murderer, but do you think he is actually a murderer or do you think he was wrongfully convicted?

    he could have been covering for his wife, or set up, or he could have lost it and gone mad and killed the senator for banging his wife, or he could have planned the murder.

    Oh, he's actually a muderer but Lee seems to believe that it was an accidental killing of another human being. The specifics of the accidental killing must still be murder since Lee had his day in court and was convicted. Still, cops have good instincts and the one that was driving Lee to prison said he didn't believe Lee did it.

    Maybe Lee found them together and an argument started between the three of them. They wrestled for the gun and the senator lost his footing and fell down the stairs. Lee can then call it an accident, believe its an accident, convince a cop he didn't do it, but still be convicted of murder.
  • RappinReggieRappinReggie
    edited July 2012
    CapnJay wrote: »
    there will be one every odd numbered episode with 5 getting the fully story

    Source please??:)
  • CapnJayCapnJay Banned
    edited July 2012
    I'm making assumptions
  • RappinReggieRappinReggie
    edited July 2012
    CapnJay wrote: »
    I'm making assumptions

    Dammit:(
  • WowMuttWowMutt
    edited July 2012
    At first I thought perhaps Lee was found guilty maybe having blood on his hands after a walker killed the senator. I wanted to believe he was falsely accused.

    But later on, after talking in EP2 with Carly, Lee says something like "you know what happened" and Lee has so far never denied killing the guy.

    Also, in EP1 in the Pharmacy office with Clem, Lee has the option to tell Clem he once killed someone.

    So, I think he did. Crime of Passion proably, but is still murder!
  • CapnJayCapnJay Banned
    edited July 2012
    Lee probably killed the Senator to protect his wife after she tried to break it off and he showed up drunk.
  • thestalkingheadthestalkinghead
    edited July 2012
    WowMutt wrote: »
    At first I thought perhaps Lee was found guilty maybe having blood on his hands after a walker killed the senator. I wanted to believe he was falsely accused.

    But later on, after talking in EP2 with Carly, Lee says something like "you know what happened" and Lee has so far never denied killing the guy.

    Also, in EP1 in the Pharmacy office with Clem, Lee has the option to tell Clem he once killed someone.

    So, I think he did. Crime of Passion proably, but is still murder!

    it might be that he said he was innocent the whole time, but still got convicted, so he is just sick of defending himself to people that don't believe him, when he said you know what happened, he might have meant i don't want to explain myself again you know the story so make your own mind up, and it would be a similar thing with clementine but if you tell a child somebody lied, quite often a child would confront the person accused because that is what their parent do to them if they lie, so he might have thought it was simpler just to say he was a bad man or whatever you choose to say.

    obviously just speculation, but why have we never heard the specifics if it is just that he straight forward killed a guy
  • BlackmesaExpBlackmesaExp
    edited July 2012
    I think that he's physically guiltly, but he didn't mean it/it was a crime of passion. As he said, he knew about the affair, and that you can say it was an accident.

    I think a better title for the thread would be "Did Lee intend to kill the senator?" .

    I like this thread, so I'm bumping it. Put it on my tab...
  • MermaidMermaid
    edited July 2012
    I think he murdered. But it was more of an accident.
  • thestalkingheadthestalkinghead
    edited July 2012
    BlackmesaExp wrote: »
    I think that he's physically guiltly, but he didn't mean it/it was a crime of passion. As he said, he knew about the affair, and that you can say it was an accident.

    I think a better title for the thread would be "Did Lee intend to kill the senator?" .

    I like this thread, so I'm bumping it. Put it on my tab...

    i don't mean to be picky, but wouldn't he have committed manslaughter not murder if he had not intentionally killed a guy but did?
    so if you think it was manslaughter you would think he isn't a murderer, so being wrongfully convicted( unless that it what he was charged with but people just didn't mention the distinction between murder and manslaughter) is what has happened
  • phorayphoray
    edited July 2012
    thestalkinghead wrote: »
    i don't mean to be picky, but wouldn't he have committed manslaughter not murder if he had not intentionally killed a guy but did?
    so if you think it was manslaughter you would think he isn't a murderer, so being wrongfully convicted( unless that it what he was charged with but people just didn't mention the distinction between murder and manslaughter) is what has happened

    I said no to murder. I say yes to manslaughter. I think it was a crime of passion. Nothing about Lee as he's let on makes him sound like a true cold blooded murderer. If he were, his wife would be dead, too.
  • JPG619JPG619
    edited July 2012
    I think he is guilty but since of the zombie outbreak I don't think it matters anymore until the kill all the zombies off and live normal lives.
  • Lars80Lars80
    edited July 2012
    I think if you sleep with someones wife knowing it is someones wife, and that person ends up shooting you. You had it coming.

    But ya, Lee is a murderer.
    A senator, Danny and Andy so far. ;)
  • MilosuperspeshMilosuperspesh
    edited July 2012
    Lars80 wrote: »
    I think if you sleep with someones wife knowing it is someones wife, and that person ends up shooting you. You had it coming.

    But ya, Lee is a murderer.
    A senator, Danny and Andy so far. ;)

    poor clem...
  • Master of AeonsMaster of Aeons
    edited July 2012
    phoray wrote: »
    I said no to murder. I say yes to manslaughter. I think it was a crime of passion. Nothing about Lee as he's let on makes him sound like a true cold blooded murderer. If he were, his wife would be dead, too.

    It's highly possible that it is manslaughter. I think it has to be a crime of passion, knowing what we do of Lee's character. Despite that, he probably didn't get booked with the crime he deserved. He did kill a senator, you know.
  • Master of AeonsMaster of Aeons
    edited July 2012
    Holy shit, we overlooked something huge in the dream sequence in episode 1. After Lee's wife says "I love you", you can hear another man's voice clearly.

    http://youtu.be/pfYV5b0N0tA
  • thestalkingheadthestalkinghead
    edited July 2012
    Master of Aeons wrote: »
    Holy shit, we overlooked something huge in the dream sequence in episode 1. After Lee's wife says "I love you", you can hear another man's voice clearly.

    http://youtu.be/pfYV5b0N0tA

    lol, i thought you were gonna go all csi on the audio
  • Master of AeonsMaster of Aeons
    edited July 2012
    Nope, I just ripped audio from whatever this is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieQednBdz3A
  • MilosuperspeshMilosuperspesh
    edited July 2012
    lol in a way you can tell you edited it if the gap wasn't as long it would be more believable
  • thestalkingheadthestalkinghead
    edited July 2012
    Milosuperspesh wrote: »
    lol in a way you can tell you edited it if the gap wasn't as long it would be more believable

    i actually had to check to make 100% sure it wasn't real, even with the gap
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