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Has Lee Redeemed himself?

ozzmannozzmann
edited July 2012 in The Walking Dead
OK lets pretend that Lee is a Murderer, That he killed the senator in cold blood.

Now, do any of you think that his post apocalyptic actions Redeem him? Or do you say, once a murdering bastard, always a murdering bastard?
I know it doesn't matter much in terms of crime and punishment anymore but would you, as a person relying on his help to survive, forgive him or be wary of him?

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  • MilosuperspeshMilosuperspesh
    edited July 2012
    he will via clem...


    yet another silly unnecessary new thread for existing debate...
  • ZeruisZeruis
    edited July 2012
    By parenting Clem, he will eventually redeem himself. If you're asking if he has already redeemed himself, then no. I think Lee has to go through a lot more.
  • ozzmannozzmann
    edited July 2012
    Milosuperspesh wrote: »
    he will via clem...


    yet another silly unnecessary new thread for existing debate...

    Are any of the threads really necessary? LOL sorry that its been done b4, I just want to get insight from other players. And for me anyway, silly is what I enjoy. This forum is like a mental release after being in reality the rest of the week. Anyhow I'm glad You think Lee is redeemable through Clem I tend to agree.
  • NessaTNessaT
    edited July 2012
    I don't think that Lee was a cold-blooded murderer. He said it was an accident, and I believe it to be a crime of passion.

    He's been nice to everyone, and saved as many people as he could - so, I'd say yeah... he has good standing in my eyes. :)
  • MilosuperspeshMilosuperspesh
    edited July 2012
    the search button a common tab in all forums usually a bit small and hard to see but t's there..

    and yes there is ALOT of ep2 threads to sift through ;)

    i'll let you off ozzbuddy
  • Master of AeonsMaster of Aeons
    edited July 2012
    Zeruis wrote: »
    By parenting Clem, he will eventually redeem himself. If you're asking if he has already redeemed himself, then no. I think Lee has to go through a lot more.

    That is, he has the potential to. Not everyone is taking the good route.
  • thesporkmanthesporkman
    edited July 2012
    Men like him can never change! A maaaaaan... such as him!
  • CapnJayCapnJay Banned
    edited July 2012
    Lee must be baptized in fire.
  • Master of AeonsMaster of Aeons
    edited July 2012
    thesporkman wrote: »
    Men like him can never change! A maaaaaan... such as him!

    Lee's prison number was 24601.
  • The_Cheshire_CatThe_Cheshire_Cat
    edited July 2012
    He has not served his debt to society. He has taken a life, so the state must take his life, so that revenge may be served, and peace given to the victims and the society may be comforted knowing that killing has been proved wrong by killing the killer.
  • ou7shinedou7shined
    edited July 2012
    He was framed.
    Did you see his face when he offed that first cop?
  • ozzmannozzmann
    edited July 2012
    The_Cheshire_Cat wrote: »
    He has not served his debt to society. He has taken a life, so the state must take his life, so that revenge may be served, and peace given to the victims and the society may be comforted knowing that killing has been proved wrong by killing the killer.

    Society's debt no longer matters my Friend. Has Lee redeemed himself as a good person in your eyes, or is he still a murdering bastard? :D( or is it murderous bastard?)
  • Lars80Lars80
    edited July 2012
    Redeem himself for who?
  • Jonttu1Jonttu1
    edited July 2012
    ozzmann wrote: »
    Society's debt no longer matters my Friend. Has Lee redeemed himself as a good person in your eyes, or is he still a murdering bastard? :D( or is it murderous bastard?)

    I think he was being sarcastic, atleast based on the "killing has been proven wrong by killing the killer" statement.
  • BrokenNintendoBrokenNintendo
    edited July 2012
    Let's see.... In my playthrough he has:

    Saved Duck
    Saved Clementine (twice)
    Saved Larry
    Saved Carly
    Butchered the Coach (Save failure!)
    Tried to talk Jolene down
    Contributed to killing Larry (D:!)
    Spared the St. John Brothers


    Honestly he's saved multiple lives and only destroyed one so far in my playthrough, i'm going to say he's redeemed himself in my eyes. (Although I don't believe he killed the Senator either, it was either a crime of passion and impulse or he was set up)
  • CapnJayCapnJay Banned
    edited July 2012
    Tried To Save Shawn
    Saved Clementine three times including from cannibalism
    Saved Duck from Larry and let Kenny punch him {so he looked like a hero to his family. and now the group knows that Kenny had a grudge against Larry so if anything happened he gets the blame}
    Saved Carley cause i didn't really know that Doug guy. [when Carleys revealed to be Fed then I never really knew her either]
    Failed to Save the Band teacher Mr. Parker {but cut his leg enough he could have pulled himself free and crawled if he had the balls}
    tried to help larry in the fridge [now Kenny is the bad guy]
    Always honest to Clem
    Killed both St. Johns. Because When Andy grabbed Clementine I told him "I'll Kill You." and as a good southern boy he was raised to believe a promise is a promise. Danny I killed to make Lily feel a little better since she said "I should kill you".
    Didn't steal from the Car. Because Clem was not happy I killed two men
  • The_Cheshire_CatThe_Cheshire_Cat
    edited July 2012
    ozzmann wrote: »
    Society's debt no longer matters my Friend. Has Lee redeemed himself as a good person in your eyes, or is he still a murdering bastard? :D( or is it murderous bastard?)

    He was never a bad person to begin with. He doesn't owe anybody anything. So Yeah, he is a good person.
    Jonttu1 wrote: »
    I think he was being sarcastic, atleast based on the "killing has been proven wrong by killing the killer" statement.

    Winner, Winner. Chicken Dinner.
  • Phantom CommandPhantom Command
    edited July 2012
    We need to know the reason behind the killing, Lee knew of the affair beforehand and also has the option to say the killing was an accident, dose the excuse him of murder I don’t know, was it self-defence, was the senator attacking Lee's wife as the barn dream scream may suggest, or did he go there with the sole purpose to being to kill the senator?

    Part of me doesn’t want this question answered as it derails the player who believes he's a cold blooded killer or a victim of circumstance by saying THIS is Lee.
  • WingSP117WingSP117
    edited July 2012
    CapnJay wrote: »
    Lee must be baptized in fire.

    Probably a good idea for a death when Lee gets near Woodsberry GA
  • AfinatiAfinati
    edited July 2012
    Lee should be honest with those who would understand his circumstances, evasive with those who would take advantage of him, and relatively silent to the children on the issue. Redemption requires some force in the universe that can absolve him or even fairly count his transgressions. Since the society which declared that his actions (supposed actions) were punishable is mostly gone, its tattered remains should have minimal ability to constrain him; it's his own place now to choose what is best for himself and others ... and, generally, he's doing that in my playthrough.

    If Lee killed this man, he has saved quite a few people since. Math.
    If Lee was calculated in that killing, such coldness might save differently dispositioned people in this more dangerous, competitive world. Adaptation.
    etc,etc, etc, etc
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