Will Lilly Leave the Group?
Major spoilers for both The Governor story arc in the comics and Episode 2 of the game await
You know, being a long-time reader of the comics (Although I stopped reading at Issue 48), I almost feel ashamed of myself to have not realised that Lilly from the game was Lilly from the comics, the same woman who:
SPOILERS
Kills both Lori Grimes and then The Governor, and also appears in The Walking Dead novel series .
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Now, in the comics, Lilly resides in the town of Woodbury, home of The Governor, arch-nemesis of Rick Grimes. In The Walking Dead game series, the group are rumoured to end up in Woodbury in the 3rd episode. Now, this begs the question, will Lilly leave? Almost certainly yes, unless the group returns to Woodbury later in the series, something I find highly doubtful.
If so, why will she leave? Whilst I was playing Episode 2, I was certain that Larry would die in Woodbury, thus causing Lilly to leave the group in a kind-of, "None of you tried to save him" way. Then I finished Episode 2. So, what DOES cause her to leave. The next logical answer would be everyone siding with Kenny, but what if you side with her like I did? (FYI, I sided with Kenny the entire time up until the scene in the Meat Locker with Larry).
So, what do y'all think?
You know, being a long-time reader of the comics (Although I stopped reading at Issue 48), I almost feel ashamed of myself to have not realised that Lilly from the game was Lilly from the comics, the same woman who:
SPOILERS
Kills both Lori Grimes and then The Governor, and also appears in The Walking Dead novel series .
/SPOILERS
Now, in the comics, Lilly resides in the town of Woodbury, home of The Governor, arch-nemesis of Rick Grimes. In The Walking Dead game series, the group are rumoured to end up in Woodbury in the 3rd episode. Now, this begs the question, will Lilly leave? Almost certainly yes, unless the group returns to Woodbury later in the series, something I find highly doubtful.
If so, why will she leave? Whilst I was playing Episode 2, I was certain that Larry would die in Woodbury, thus causing Lilly to leave the group in a kind-of, "None of you tried to save him" way. Then I finished Episode 2. So, what DOES cause her to leave. The next logical answer would be everyone siding with Kenny, but what if you side with her like I did? (FYI, I sided with Kenny the entire time up until the scene in the Meat Locker with Larry).
So, what do y'all think?
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Oh, sorry about that. I've been playing Katawa Shoujo.
Anyway, yeah, I think it's a given that Lilly's going to leave. Canon demands it. Same reason Shawn died and Glenn left for Atlanta. I wouldn't be surprised if she ends up leaving in the next episode, in fact.
It's really interesting to speculate on how it will all pan out.
She'll probaly feel alone because of her dad's death, and will leave a note saying something. I guess the note will depend on the player's choice...
Edit: I put my votes on the note. If she says to everyone that she's going to leave, we should have an optionto choose who we should follow. Specially to the player's who sided with her.
Unless she says that she want to be alone. But I don't know... It just feels unlikely. Again, specially if you sided with her.
That would be a very cool and fitting way to see her leave. I will say that I haven't read Rise of the Governor, but I know it gives many more details on the people of Woodbury's lives, both pre-apocalypse and post. Perhaps it sketches out a few details as to how Lilly ended up there?
I haven't read it either. Actually, I didn't even know it existed. But... I don't know. I really think that they hadn't in mind include Lilly in a game while they are in that part of the comic. So unless this thing is recently, I hardly doubt it...
or the group splits up rv and train and lilly doesn't make it? she disapears...
What a backwards way to title those books. Seriously. The Rise of the Governor should be called the Road to Woodbury, since it actually tells of his journey to Woodbury. The second book would definitely be more accurate if titled The Rise of the Gov, since, well, it's actually about the governor's rise to power in Woodbury, not the road there...
I see. From what I hear Rise of the Gov also sheds some more light on the Wiltshire Estate, a criminally underused location in the comics. I am interested in reading them, it's just they're quite hard to find in the UK, PLUS, like I said, I stopped reading the comics at Issue 48.
But yes, Episode 3 would make for a very neat segway into The Road to Woodbury, particularly if Lilly is given the same amount of importance as The Governor. Aah, Kirkman, you've all got it planned out!
Well, could be that too. But then, people would want to know how she escaped of those bandits and went to Woodbury.
note i didn't say bandits as i was attempting to sublty imply she would be captured by michone or another of the guvnah's towns people
Guys, if any of you still had doubts about Lilly quittin'... Look what I found:
• Episode 3: Long Road Ahead - August 2012
o Chapter 1 - Goodbye, She Quietly Says
o Chapter 2 - Bad Blood
o Chapter 3 - Hit The Road
o Chapter 4 - Woodbury Bound
o Chapter 5 - Rumbling Down The Track
o Chapter 6 - Can't Save 'em All
o Chapter 7 - Tools For The Job
o Chapter 8 - Lend Me Your Ears
Of course it could referring about the Motel, but I think it's highly unlikely... Sad thing she have to get out in the first Chapter.
Oh, and look at the name. "... She Quietly says". It just reinforces the theory about the note!
I don't think it's as simple as her just leaving; everyone would pick Woodbury as a safe haven. But why Lee isn't there as part of the later canon could be pretty easily explained: he's dead or was denied access.
Right now, she seems to be pretty pissed at the group as a whole. I think she'll just run away.
I think Lilly leaves the group next episode too but we have to take into account the preview of next episode.
No spoilers here just WAG's (wild ass guessing)
Chapter 1 - Goodbye, She Quietly Says - ?
Chapter 2 - Bad Blood - May refer to when we see Lee shoot the bandit
Chapter 3 - Hit The Road - They all leave the motel together since they are all shown arguing on the roadside by the RV later on.
Chapter 4 - Woodbury Bound - This may be where the group, less Kenny and his family and Ben, deciede to go with Lilly. Kenney goes to the coast with family and Ben as seen in the preview.
Chapter 5 - Rumbling Down The Track - Where Lee and Clem are shown riding in a train car.
Chapter 6 - Can't Save 'em All - this may be where Lee, Clem and Carley get seperated from Lilly. Only Lilly goes to Woodbury. Lee goes opposite way.
Chapter 7 - Tools For The Job - maybe Lee finds some weapons and ammo
Chapter 8 - Lend Me Your Ears - ?
so we can not say certainly she goes:)
Maybe they went back and buried Larry and that's what it's is referring to.
She just seems upset with kenny in my main play through.
I've been mulling around the idea that perhaps we head to Woodbury, but Lilly doesn't leave the group at that time. It could be possible that she stays with us to the end of the story, and at that point extenuating circumstances lead her BACK to Woodbury.
In all honesty though, I think she's leaving. The death of her father had to be pretty traumatic, and episode three would be the ample time to have her "split".
What about the lady that will show up in episode 3?
Season 2 could continue from there.
It's already been established in the Romance thread that it might just end up being an androgynous anime character.
I remember one of the writers saying that episode 4 was "Fucked up" and I imagine that's when they get to Woodbury.
Really looking forward to see what actually happends.
In the comic someone says to Rick the Governor wasn't always like this so Lee's group could meet him before insanity and even his daughter’s troubles which makes Lilly staying more believable.
I was thinking about this possibility as well. First I thought she might jump ship right away, but I've been thinking, maybe some decision a little further down the road forces her to return to Woodbury.
Lilly leaves the group alone not allowing anyone to come with her, she leaves to Woodbury.. Kenny leaves with his family and Ben without Lee.. In the end Lee becomes leader of his own group which has Clem, Doug/Carley and maybe some new characters and they head to some new destination..
According to Wikia, Episode 4 - Chapter 1 - Georgia's First City so I'm guessing they are going towards Georgia..And according to Google, Georgia's First City is called Savannah..And who is in Savannah? Yes, that's right, Clem's parents. My guess is that she miss her parents and since she is losing trust to Lee, seeing him kill and beat those guys, Lee has to prove that he is a good man and Doug, Clem and Lee go to Savannah to find her parents.
I'm just guessing..
So in the end, Lilly will leave the group, and that's good, I don't like either one of them, Kenny and Lilly..
I want to see Lee as a leader.
If she stays there will be trouble.
But if she goes it will be double.
But the bigger question is does Lee want a relationship or to just let off some steam.
Does he commit?
or will she blow?
I'm thinking that once Lilly leaves, the group will then fall apart. There will be no legitimate leader within the group, which I think that Lee will soon take over.
I guess that could happen, but since you saved their lifes, risked your own, I think they will follow you with Clem.. But I think we will definitely see group torn apart and Lee becoming leader of his own group.. Maybe we will finally see some bad-ass Lee standing up to Lilly and Kenny, maybe that's the reason why they don't want him at Boat/Woodbury..
We shall see!
As much as I would also like to see the Gov, I don't it's going to happen. We already have two novels penned down for the Governor. Add a video game in, and we will almost have the entirety of his life in-apocalypse.
i think she knows this. considering shes the authority figure on the subject of survivial.
Have you read the comics? She survives. In the prison arc, she is shown with an entirely new group.