[SPOILER] In the forest with Duck:

Why do you guys think Katja shot herself? I personally think she wasn't happy with what her husband had turned into. Kenny's personality shifted from being pretty nice in Episode 1 to "I'll do whatever is necessary, good or bad, to protect my family" in Episode 2 and 3. (Kind of ironic how that never helped him in the end.) I think she was emotionally exhausted and Duck was the only "normal" thing she had left in the world.

Side note:

When Kenny and Katja are going to go say goodbye to Duck and Kat kills herself, how did she get the gun?

I repeated several times, "I'll do it guys. No parent should have to live through that." They then walk away to say goodbye to Duck, and then you follow them to find out that Katja shot herself.

What's weird is Kenny says "She couldn't do it!" or something like that, as if the game thought I said that she should shoot him. AFAIK Katja never had a gun before. (She's supposedly "against them" and would have used one by now if she had one, I'd think.)

So either she hid one somewhere or, for whatever reason, she asked Kenny for one.

Comments

  • edited August 2012
    If you don't say anything when you first approach, Kenny says something along the lines of "you said you could do it". Katjaa originally said at the train that it should be a parent, she told Kenny she could do it and shot herself when Kenny gave her the gun. As for why, obviously because she just held her son for the majority of the day while he died.
  • edited August 2012
    She also said that she loves Duck more than life itself. Which is a pretty normal line in well, normal context, but in that situation I really thought that she will not come back.

    Katjaa also did not seem like she was used to the situation...I mean she probably just looked over the kids, nursed the sick and...well I do not think that she went out on supply hunts. I mean she really does not want to use a gun, probably never even trained to. And then everything fell apart, starting with the farm, than the motor inn and finally her son. I can understand her.

    And yeah...she appear broken when you tell her the truth about what happened to Larry. Maybe she wanted to die with her humanity left...and not being forced to do stuff like Kenny to survive.

    We'll never know.
  • edited August 2012
    If Clem died, and people had the chance to off themselves, I bet a lot would. That's why Katjaa killed herself.
  • edited August 2012
    She was looking down the barrel and it went off. Poor gun safety education.
  • edited August 2012
    I think she did it because she couldn't bear the thought living without her son. After all, she loved him more then life itself :(
  • CapnJayCapnJay Banned
    edited August 2012
    My Lee would let himself be eaten/bitten by Clementine. If she turned so if she had to be permakilled then he'd suicide.
  • edited August 2012
    It's pretty interesting that she's against guns, then shoots herself.
  • edited August 2012
    Why do you think most people would commit suicide in the zombie apocalypse? She's seen tons of people die, she sees a side of her husband she never wanted to see, and her son was turning into a zombie. She just couldn't take it and committed suicide.

    Kenny commented "you said were ready" in the sense of being ready to put down their son down to prevent him from becoming a zombie. She just couldn't do it.

    I was pretty upset about it.
  • edited August 2012
    Who said she killed herself? Think about that one for a min...
  • edited August 2012
    Red Panda wrote: »
    If Clem died, and people had the chance to off themselves, I bet a lot would.

    That could very well be the last scene of this game.
  • edited August 2012
    HellRaizer wrote: »
    Who said she killed herself? Think about that one for a min...

    who the hell else would have done it?
  • edited August 2012
    She simply couldnt stand to live without her son, especially in this crazy new world. I was so not expecting that. It was shock upon shock in this episode.
  • edited August 2012
    I actually looked at Kat's suicide as odd when it happened. Considering we don't actually see it, and all we know about is a gunshot and Kenny screaming, "No!" it seems kind of odd. Not odd because of the suicide, but more so on how Kenny reacts to it. The guy just has tears in his eyes for a second, then gets up and allows his son to be killed.

    One of my thoughts was that Kenny, in a fit of panic, might have killed Kat. That doesn't make too much sense, due to the situation with his son right after, but he just took the whole scene a little too well in my opinion. Maybe he was trying to protect Duck? Who knows, although that theory is kind of shaky due to the before mentioned.

    I also agree that for a woman that stated that guns make her uncomfortable, her taking her life out of the blue was a little off (Especially with said weapon). The above posters make good points, but that scene just didn't set right with me. :P
  • edited August 2012
    pdlbean wrote: »
    who the hell else would have done it?

    He's referring to Kenny I'm guessing, though I don't see why.

    Also, Katjaa got the gun cuz everyone was sposed to carry guns because the bandits could come at any moment. It's a dialogue you can pick.
  • edited August 2012
    KCohere wrote: »
    She simply couldnt stand to live without her son, especially in this crazy new world. I was so not expecting that. It was shock upon shock in this episode.

    Agreed. Shit just kept on coming and coming. I also believe, aside from the fact that she indeed couldn't live without Duck, that she might have lost her overall sense of purpose. Taking care of her son might have been the only thing keeping her going in the end. In that regard, if you choose to save Doug in ep.1 she briefly mentions her family in Belgium in a conversation when you arrive at the train, stating that they're "even further away now". That was pretty sad in my opinion.
  • edited August 2012
    Viner16 wrote: »
    He's referring to Kenny I'm guessing, though I don't see why.

    Also, Katjaa got the gun cuz everyone was sposed to carry guns because the bandits could come at any moment. It's a dialogue you can pick.

    I thought, when they were talking about weapons, it was implied that they were needed. I don't recall anything about Kat actually carrying one. The one on the couch could have been Kenny's. Look at the Walker that fell on them and the events of the raid. Kat didn't fire off a single shot, whether to protect the group or her son. :/
  • edited August 2012
    pdlbean wrote: »
    who the hell else would have done it?

    As someone else already mentioned...I think Kenny killed her. I think he has finally snapped but not yet gone off the deep end. I think hes fighting to control his sanity, but hes fighting a losing battle. Its the whole thing in the beginning of the episode where Katjaa talks about hating the guns around the motel that throws me for this wild conclusion and I just feel that the way Kenny handled the whole situation with Duck getting bitten and how he ignored it I feel like the next 2 episodes somethings gonna give and hes gonna lose his sh!t.
  • edited August 2012
    On the bright side, if the "Kenny killed Kat" thing turns out to be true, at least Lee and Kenny have common ground now. :D I smell, "Drinking buddy!" :P
  • edited August 2012
    In my play-through, I told Kenny that he should do it the first time, and Katjaa walked into the woods alone with Duck. Then we heard a gunshot and assumed Duck was taken care of. When we went to check it out, we found she had killed herself. ;-;
  • edited August 2012
    It's pretty interesting that she's against guns, then shoots herself.

    It's an effective tool.
  • edited August 2012
    Cyreen wrote: »
    It's an effective tool.

    Super effective, if you ask me. :D
  • edited August 2012
    I thought, when they were talking about weapons, it was implied that they were needed. I don't recall anything about Kat actually carrying one. The one on the couch could have been Kenny's. Look at the Walker that fell on them and the events of the raid. Kat didn't fire off a single shot, whether to protect the group or her son. :/

    Katjaa says she doesn't enjoy carrying them around and isn't used to it yet, and Lee can say "We have to, but it's good you don't feel comfortable."
  • shammackshammack Former Telltale Staff
    edited August 2012
    I've wondered if part of the reason she was uncomfortable around guns was because she knew there was a risk of turning one on herself, even before Duck was bitten. Suicide is usually not a spur-of-the-moment decision. The Duck incident may have sealed the deal, but I'd be surprised if the idea hadn't been in the back of her mind for a while.

    Or maybe Duck shot her.
  • edited August 2012
    Viner16 wrote: »
    Katjaa says she doesn't enjoy carrying them around and isn't used to it yet, and Lee can say "We have to, but it's good you don't feel comfortable."

    Yeah, but technically that doesn't say she has one, or carries one at all times, or has at all. Heck, except when she offs herself, she never fires a single shot, to my recollection. >_>
  • edited August 2012
    Or maybe Katjaa doesn't like guns because she's from Belgium, with very strict gun control, who like me (living in Canada), didn't grow up with the American armed-to-the-teeth attitude.
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