No-one can be trusted.
After playing the first 3 episodes, I have come to the conclusion that no-one in the group can be trusted. After playing Episode 1, I thought that Kenny would be my most loyal companion but a lot of players, including me, fell out with him during the Meat Locker scene in Episode 2. Everyone who you might be able to trust somehow dies or leaves in one way or another. Doug/Carley (whichever one you saved) was next on my list of being trusted, but they were shot down by Lilly, who then also left the group. Finally, Duck and Katjaa are gone now too and I feel like there is no-one in the group I can trust anymore. Even Clementine has been lying to me, and seems to trust the stranger on her radio more than Lee because she thinks they have their parents. The group is falling apart and when the 2 newcomers arrived at the end of Episode 3, somehow I think they will die too or betray the group in some way. Even Ben, who is basically still a kid cannot be trusted, because he was the one who supplied the bandits and caused Doug/Carley to die and Lilly to leave. What are your thoughts? Should we trust ANYONE in the group? Or can Lee manage on his own?
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Unless he's working for someone (Given the situation on how you met him, I doubt it), then he's the most trustworthy one out of them all. He's like a homeless Kenny/Lily, before crap hit the fan.
If we make it out of this, I'm killing a cow and making Charles a HUGE steak dinner.
I still trust Ben. He did what he thought was right, it was a poor decision but he won't make it again. In the end it was the only thing stopping those bandits from attacking earlier. That confrontation was going to happen eventually anyway.
Clems situation with the radio isn't really a matter of trust for me. She's a little girl, she's been pretending to talk to her parents on that radio, that guy knows enough to be able to manipulate her into not telling anyone. Much like Ben this was a bad decision but it's not one she's going to make again.
I'm not so sure about Chuck, something about him just doesn't rub me right. Omid and Christa seem fine though.
Granted that he has no real motivation to kill anyone... But he has been homeless for forever and has been living all on his own since then (as far as we know). Who knows what kind of crazy he is? A psychopath doesn't need motivation.
That's true. To me, Chuck doesn't match that profile, though. I may be completely wrong, as he's just a character and can 180 at anytime, but Chuck could have killed everyone if he so desired. Kenny was in the lead car of the train, Lee was in the boxcar, the kids and Kat were outside... And he knew about everyone before they knew about him (He even got the drop on Lee).
The only concern I have about Chuck is the fact that he drinks. That might hold for something, down the road, but I doubt it. He could just be another "Mark" character, and dies off early (Or leaves) in the next episode. Chuck does seem to have sincere concerns, however (Giving Lee very blunt advice about Clemmy), my main reason for accepting him is that he doesn't seem to pry. So, unless he's a silent killer (If he is, I'm calling him SBD (Silent, But Deadly) from then on), he's okay in my books. For now.
Yeah, he seems like the kind of classic friendly hobo guy that will never do any harm... But that seems too obvious and simple to me! He is old, wise, and blunt. Best case scenario I think he will leave the group and go his own way to find whatever it is he's looking for. Maybe he just wants to travel further on the railroads not knowing where to go. I bet you he will somehow save Lee's life one time before either leaving or play some kind of sick game that he has come up with on his life on the road with the group, destroying it from inside out. Some schizophrenia OCD psycho game. Maybe roll a dice to decide who gets to live or something like that.
...OR he may very well be that kind old classic hobo guy.
That's what drives TWD. The big danger comes from the living.
Or... He'll offer me some moldy cheese after an eighty day trip around the globe, in an alleyway somewhere, before he teaches me how to beg for money.
10 days in to the trip.
"Hey there, Lee. I know you hungry and I got some candy for you right here, bud... Just reach up on this here pocket...."
And then the rest of the trip will be really awkward for the both of them.
Just wanted to make the reference easier to see. :P
Awkward? What if one of them likes it?
You have no idea what the guy's motives are. Hell, he could be waiting for you to fall asleep so that he can try to slit your throat and take your gun. Just because he doesn't have an obvious motive, doesn't mean that he is trustworthy.
That's always true, as I stated, he is just a character that can be manipulated to do what TTG wants him to do. He could turn out to be bat-shit crazy, for all we know. He could turn out to be our best friend, too. I made my statement off of what we've seen, so far. Or rather, what we were allowed to see.
For all we know, that Walker in the car (At the front of the train) could have been his last victim. Maybe he just snapped the seat belt around him to make it look like an accident. Only time will tell.
he could have been the one that cut the page from the engine start up instructions, he memorised the map, so he must have had his own plans for the train, he could just be happy that there is some fresh meat on the journey and he doesn't want the freshest meat (Clementine) to get spoiled by zombies, but who knows?
Eventually
You do realize that some of the remaining characters no doubt feel the same way about Lee, particularly if Lilly's outing him was the first they'd heard of his past.
Agreed. ALL PRAISE THE CANDYMAN.
Dont forget that it's free. Can't beat free candy.
Christa was the one that truly opened my eyes too to the groups motives and convictions and how no one can be 100% trusted.
Kenny has left my behind to fend for itself on one too many occasions and Ben has made some major mistakes cosing the life's/departure of some of the more trustworthy characters.
I still trust Clem as a child dose not have the capacity to knowingly betray someone, Chuck is my Yoda and I'll trust him untill he gives me a reason not too and Christa seems like a strong independant woman which is what Clem needs given the groups current dynamics.
This and also; what happens to the human nature.The further it's removed from a 'civilized society' the closer we resemble animals. Trust seems like the first casualty of the ZA, imo.
But what's more interesting than the story itself is the reactions/thoughts from the players
I don't believe you, sorry. Lilly would have blown his brains out right in the RV in front of everyone. That psycho was itching to kill ANYTHING. No, Carly wasn't killed for defending Ben, she was killed because she called Lilly bad names.
People make mistakes, but they don't learn from them when you shoot them in the head for it.
Thats a nice what if, and it would have made a lot of people happier I think.
Mark was more mature, came bearing gifts and just generally seemed to have a good head on his shoulders.
Poor Mark...well, on the plus side my typing speed has skyrocketed in my rabid hatred of Ben. I think I'm ready for a career in stenography now
That just means that Mark would have been around long enough to find his fatal flaws and you'd be here wondering why we couldn't have saved Ben, that poor innocent kid that got eaten by cannibals.
Objection, your honor! That's speculation!