Omid so far is semi-likable, although it's still too early to tell. Christa, on the other hand, seems like your typical... ill-mannered female character. There is nothing likable about her yet.
Well, I can't represent a fanbase, but speaking for myself I would say "yes", they do have the potential to be liked. However I doubt I would like them as much.
I hope Christa and Omid do not serve as direct replacements i.e. Omid being the friend to Lee as Doug was, and Christa being the friend/interest to Lee as Carley was.
I think Omid is pretty likable as well... but Ben is kinda replacing Doug for me, I feel that somehow he has potential if he actually listens to Lee... and Christa... well, she didn't make a good first impression on me, but I don't think she means ill. She might actually be very helpful, because she looks like the kind of person who can handle... survival stuff.
Probably not enough time in the season to bond the same way. Granted it only takes a full episode to get a feel of a character; but at this late stage of the game they're more like meat shields for me, Clem and Kenny to complete this gauntlet
I don't think either of the characters will fare very well with fans, based on what I've seen in Episode 3. As stated by Acadias, Christa reminds people of Lilly and very few people warm to the stereotypical bitch. Omid is also going to be disliked by a large part of the playerbase because he's not a man's man - you wouldn't expect him to survive long on his own and he seems to make your group weaker rather than stronger. Say what you want about Kenny, but the guy's at least capable when things get bad.
One of the reasons people like Clementine so much is because she's smart and resourceful. Even though you're put into the role of her protector, it feels like a mutually beneficial relationship from the very get-go when she hands you that hammer in Episode 1 (and continues to prove her usefulness in every episode). Christa and especially Omid feel like dead weight.
Omid I like, even if he told me to save Christa first, he was injured, it's a simple instinct.
Christa, well lets say she'll have to stop having an attitude when i'm trying to be nice.
I think Christa's attitude will, in large part, be defined by you helping her or Omid onto the train. If you helped the injured Omid (showing you have compassion) she'll be nicer to you but if you didn't (thus, showing you are willing to leave the weak behind) she will be a total B*tch to you.
As for Omid, I'm thinking like many have said he may not make it past episode 4, but we'll see. I think he's an okay guy otherwise.
Don't get me wrong. They aren't bad people, they just found the group at THE WRONG TIME. That's why I'm bent on not liking them. It seems that we've seen our share of the apocalypse, while these guys are just happy go lucky.
I think both are likeable. Christa could be a favorite even. I'm setting aside, for now, that it is highly suspicious these two were just wandering around in a ZA with no supplies or weapons.
Christa I like and I think it is because I'm selecting options I don't normally use namely just saying nothing "...". Christa, to me, is a concerned survivor who likes Clem as well. I didn't get any attitude from her. She seemed pretty nice actually.
I got a good scolding from Omid for saving him over Christa. But that's what he gets for saving my life on the overpass when the tanker slipped. I'm just funny that way. Christa still seemed friendly as before more so to Clem.
im not sure if i like the new group omid christra lee kenny ben chuck aka (charles) clemintime i think i prefer the old group lilly katjaa duck larry carley/doug lee and clemintime and mark
I like Christa. She's no-nonsense, but I don't read that as bitchy. Besides, she looks pretty athletic, so she's a potential walker killing machine. She's concerned for the welfare of Clem, too.
Considering that Omid's interest (history) was Lee's life, there could be something there, friendship-wise. Savannah, being the historic city it is, might have something that makes their knowledge a useful tool. I'm concerned about that leg, though...
i think lee likes Omid more than me (similar interests) but i think christa has the potential of being a role model for Clementine and an example for lee to follow, as in thinking tactically about every situation
Potential, but so far none of it is realized. They have just very one dimension personalities right now so they need to develop them soon or they will just be a burden to the story.
No, I don't think they'll be popular. Though I personally like them both.
Carley and Lilly were loved because they are able bodied young women who were at times stereotypically feminine. Lilly was at heart a scared little child around (and in the absence of) her dad and Carley reverted to the mental state of a five year old when forced to deal with those complicated mechanical thingies. Their willingness to please men in this way made them likeable "well-mannered" girls, instead of potentially threathening "ill-mannered" women.
Omid and Christa on the other hand don't fit so well into the chauvinist natural order of things. Omid is obviously weaker both mentally and physically than the "boy arsed" Christa. He's shorter, less sharp, more cowardly, has an embarassing macho hobby, can't take nagging, acts like a child in the train and now even walks with a limp. At the end of the ep 4 trailer he seems to have lost the use of his bum leg entirely. Since Christa is so strongly placed into the caretaker role and Omid seems to be getting more and more helpless as the story progresses, their relationship is too much like a relationship between a whining child and a mother. The fact that Crista is probably pregnant and so keen in mothering Clementine (and Lee) only makes her more dangerously maternal.
So no, I doubt they'll be popular. As far as I know, weak men who are in the tow of their mothering spouses aren't all that common or liked in games. Generally maternal characters are only praised as villains. Christa will also be disliked since she "replaces" the two girly girls.
I don't get why she's anything like Lilly, people need to understand she's gone. Get her out of your head. She shot Carley, a character that barely mattered. Yes, I loved how she'd always trust in me and believe I was doing what's right, but there's no room for a character like that. Having someone with all perks and no flaws besides the trivial backwards batteries is no fun.
I don't like Christa, because so far, her only contribution is to yell at Lee for how he's trying to teach Clem to survive (apparently Christa finds fault with people who are trying their best instead of finding a way to help) and yell at Lee for saving her (apparently Christa has no idea that in TWD, an injured person is a liability until they die, so the healthy and able should be saved first). During the entire time working on the train, Christa did nothing, while Omid learned how the train works and was dangled out over an overpass to help strangers.
Christa so far is a worthless complainer while Omid is a team player. Too bad he's going to die. Christa will need to do something besides be Clementine's babysitter if she wants to win people over.
No, I think they won't be as popular. If you were emotionally attached to Carley, Katjaa or Duck will be cautious to make the same mistake again. Plus: The effect wears off over time.
I don't think I'll hate them, but I'll never like them as much as Mark, or Larry or Lilly. After losing so many people I don't think anyone will like them as much. My Lee, who started out as a good guy, doesn't give two shits about anyone but Clem and Kenny now.
'pulled off well' would probably have to mean A LOT of drama and dialogue.
Thats how we come to like/hate these people right? Not so much in their words but by their actions. We have history with the others through the tense situations we all shared, I dont know how much drama they could possibly drum up for them in the final two episodes.
I mean, I would LIKE to like them...
I think they have a lot of potential. Omid was happy to see a friendly group and Christa is really wary. Who could hold that against her?
It will also be really interesting to see how Omid's leg will work out. It pretty surely isn't broken, otherwise there would have been no way for him to have caught up with the train, or walk in the preview to episode 4. Still, will that flesh wound infect? Bad enough to kill him? Is there a way to get him on his feet again... has Ben given all the neccessary antibiotics to the bandits... we will only know next (or so) month.
We have seen far to little of these two to judge yet!
Going from what I saw of Omid's personality and the preview, I'll honestly be shocked if he survives the next episode, let alone do anything worthwhile. I'm a bit more undecided about Christa, I think she can take care of herself for now, but who knows what'll happen when Omid dies, and she also doesn't seem to work well in groups.
In the preview, Omid's leg looks worse and Christa even says that if his leg gets any worse he'll have to be carried, so I don't think he'll recover.
The preview for e3 showed Omid and Christa (before any of us knew who they where) fighting walkers in a.....well it kinda looked like the train station. Omid had a bandage on his injured leg and was still killing walkers.
My point is that these previews don't mean anything. For all we know it was not Omid that Christa went back for but rather the contest winner who got bit. The same contest winner is on the couch about to turn.
Carley and Lilly were loved because they are able bodied young women who were at times stereotypically feminine. Lilly was at heart a scared little child around (and in the absence of) her dad and Carley reverted to the mental state of a five year old when forced to deal with those complicated mechanical thingies. Their willingness to please men in this way made them likeable "well-mannered" girls, instead of potentially threathening "ill-mannered" women.
Your being kind of assumptious, ill tell you now (I Am not afraid of Ill-Mannered woman!) I didn't save Carley over Doug because shes "Steriotypically Feminine", I Saved her because she saved me, and honestly, do you think Doug would have liked to be saved? I remember when I saved him instead he seriously said "I just kind of wish you would have saved her." implying he didn't want her to die in his place, and I most definitely didn't like Carley for your reason either, that battery thing Could be steriotypical, I don't know about it though. As for lily? She seemed like a "Scared Child" because she was constantly afraid her father was going to die, had the most un-enjoyable tasks put on Her desk, (Distributing Rations, for example) Had to constantly put up with Kennys arguments over power and how hes going to leave, not to mention in her own words she was being made out to be a dictator (Or Nazi, as she put it). and then after all her work to ensure her father survives, the meatlocker arrives and while she is so frantically trying to calm her father down, he has his final heart attack. TLDR: Not all people who liked Carley liked her for your single reason and Lily was scared for a damn good reason, Larrys fate is a Great example of that.
Omid and Christa on the other hand don't fit so well into the chauvinist natural order of things. Omid is obviously weaker both mentally and physically than the "boy arsed" Christa. He's shorter, less sharp, more cowardly, has an embarassing macho hobby, can't take nagging, acts like a child in the train and now even walks with a limp. At the end of the ep 4 trailer he seems to have lost the use of his bum leg entirely. Since Christa is so strongly placed into the caretaker role and Omid seems to be getting more and more helpless as the story progresses, their relationship is too much like a relationship between a whining child and a mother. The fact that Crista is probably pregnant and so keen in mothering Clementine (and Lee) only makes her more dangerously maternal.
You really don't like Omid man, History isn't a embarassing hobby, Its actually a very fair hobby, what you said is like saying "Going to school is a embarassing hobby.". Physically? probably yeah, Mentally? I disagree, The apocalypse doesn't seem to have hit him as hard as everyone else, he seems happy all the time, its not a bad thing--its actually good. Christa seems like a very protective person, but once again that is a good trait to have in a group, she probably just has problems in groups because she doesn't like people nosing about her business and shes got somewhat of a attitude--not too rude if you ask me, she always makes a point. Christa and Omids relationship really shouldn't factor in too much in your hate for them, its not that uncommon. as for the patriotic bit you mentioned, Omid went on a road trip, you don't have to be a patriot to do that, nor do you have to be a patriot to love a countries history, I am american and I love scandinavian history, does that mean I am a scandinavian patriot? No, I also like American history alot, does that make me a american patriot? still no.
So no, I doubt they'll be popular. As far as I know, weak men who are in the tow of their mothering spouses aren't all that common or liked in games. Generally maternal characters are only praised as villains. Christa will also be disliked since she "replaces" the two girly girls.
This post kind of bothered me--you see your being quiet judgmental here when we've only seen them for a qaurter of a episode...and Omid saved Lee, so whos to say he was lieing when he said he saved Christa afew times?
I don't dislike Christa for something so ridiculous, I see her as a completely new character which may factor into that, I Don't see her as the replacement for Lily or Carley.
'pulled off well' would probably have to mean A LOT of drama and dialogue.
Thats how we come to like/hate these people right? Not so much in their words but by their actions. We have history with the others through the tense situations we all shared, I dont know how much drama they could possibly drum up for them in the final two episodes.
I mean, I would LIKE to like them...
Episode 1 was a hour, episode 2 was a hour and a half? and episode 3 was like 2 hours? They seem to be getting progressively longer and ill be slightly disappointed if ep4 is anything less than longer than 3. I don't agree with you on the drama bit, but the dialogue bit is a given, afterall what game makes you care about a character that is not your main character without any form of dialogue? even text? I think that we don't have to have more than 2 episodes to get attached as long as its done well, although I won't get so attached to feel anything but surprise due to my nature when I play games.
I feel like I already like Omid/Christa quiet alot--this coming from someone who has no ill feelings towards Ben either.
Blame Kenny for that one, he rushed Lily into leaving, who knows maybe her next course of action Was to get the supplies. Keep in mind I love Kenny but He shouldn't have been so fast in that scene to try to leave Lily, But who knows maybe if he wasn't they would have gotten shot and died.
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I hope Christa and Omid do not serve as direct replacements i.e. Omid being the friend to Lee as Doug was, and Christa being the friend/interest to Lee as Carley was.
I agree. Unfortunately, I'm also under the impression Omid won't make it far into Episode 4.
One of the reasons people like Clementine so much is because she's smart and resourceful. Even though you're put into the role of her protector, it feels like a mutually beneficial relationship from the very get-go when she hands you that hammer in Episode 1 (and continues to prove her usefulness in every episode). Christa and especially Omid feel like dead weight.
Eh, then I guess we should be very careful around Kenny? ._.
Christa, well lets say she'll have to stop having an attitude when i'm trying to be nice.
I think Christa's attitude will, in large part, be defined by you helping her or Omid onto the train. If you helped the injured Omid (showing you have compassion) she'll be nicer to you but if you didn't (thus, showing you are willing to leave the weak behind) she will be a total B*tch to you.
As for Omid, I'm thinking like many have said he may not make it past episode 4, but we'll see. I think he's an okay guy otherwise.
Also I'm sure Christa's uptightness will probably dissipate after getting used to being in a group.
I do love that Christa (and chuck) as they mean some characters that actually have their heads on straight.
Christa I like and I think it is because I'm selecting options I don't normally use namely just saying nothing "...". Christa, to me, is a concerned survivor who likes Clem as well. I didn't get any attitude from her. She seemed pretty nice actually.
I got a good scolding from Omid for saving him over Christa. But that's what he gets for saving my life on the overpass when the tanker slipped. I'm just funny that way. Christa still seemed friendly as before more so to Clem.
When I said that, I was joking, but now that I think about it, I don't think Ben would fare too well if Kenny were to find out about him.
Considering that Omid's interest (history) was Lee's life, there could be something there, friendship-wise. Savannah, being the historic city it is, might have something that makes their knowledge a useful tool. I'm concerned about that leg, though...
Carley and Lilly were loved because they are able bodied young women who were at times stereotypically feminine. Lilly was at heart a scared little child around (and in the absence of) her dad and Carley reverted to the mental state of a five year old when forced to deal with those complicated mechanical thingies. Their willingness to please men in this way made them likeable "well-mannered" girls, instead of potentially threathening "ill-mannered" women.
Omid and Christa on the other hand don't fit so well into the chauvinist natural order of things. Omid is obviously weaker both mentally and physically than the "boy arsed" Christa. He's shorter, less sharp, more cowardly, has an embarassing macho hobby, can't take nagging, acts like a child in the train and now even walks with a limp. At the end of the ep 4 trailer he seems to have lost the use of his bum leg entirely. Since Christa is so strongly placed into the caretaker role and Omid seems to be getting more and more helpless as the story progresses, their relationship is too much like a relationship between a whining child and a mother. The fact that Crista is probably pregnant and so keen in mothering Clementine (and Lee) only makes her more dangerously maternal.
So no, I doubt they'll be popular. As far as I know, weak men who are in the tow of their mothering spouses aren't all that common or liked in games. Generally maternal characters are only praised as villains. Christa will also be disliked since she "replaces" the two girly girls.
Christa so far is a worthless complainer while Omid is a team player. Too bad he's going to die. Christa will need to do something besides be Clementine's babysitter if she wants to win people over.
Of course, but ultimately it depends on how well written they are in the next couple episodes.
'pulled off well' would probably have to mean A LOT of drama and dialogue.
Thats how we come to like/hate these people right? Not so much in their words but by their actions. We have history with the others through the tense situations we all shared, I dont know how much drama they could possibly drum up for them in the final two episodes.
I mean, I would LIKE to like them...
It will also be really interesting to see how Omid's leg will work out. It pretty surely isn't broken, otherwise there would have been no way for him to have caught up with the train, or walk in the preview to episode 4. Still, will that flesh wound infect? Bad enough to kill him? Is there a way to get him on his feet again... has Ben given all the neccessary antibiotics to the bandits... we will only know next (or so) month.
We have seen far to little of these two to judge yet!
Which was just dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb!
The preview for e3 showed Omid and Christa (before any of us knew who they where) fighting walkers in a.....well it kinda looked like the train station. Omid had a bandage on his injured leg and was still killing walkers.
My point is that these previews don't mean anything. For all we know it was not Omid that Christa went back for but rather the contest winner who got bit. The same contest winner is on the couch about to turn.
Your being kind of assumptious, ill tell you now (I Am not afraid of Ill-Mannered woman!) I didn't save Carley over Doug because shes "Steriotypically Feminine", I Saved her because she saved me, and honestly, do you think Doug would have liked to be saved? I remember when I saved him instead he seriously said "I just kind of wish you would have saved her." implying he didn't want her to die in his place, and I most definitely didn't like Carley for your reason either, that battery thing Could be steriotypical, I don't know about it though. As for lily? She seemed like a "Scared Child" because she was constantly afraid her father was going to die, had the most un-enjoyable tasks put on Her desk, (Distributing Rations, for example) Had to constantly put up with Kennys arguments over power and how hes going to leave, not to mention in her own words she was being made out to be a dictator (Or Nazi, as she put it). and then after all her work to ensure her father survives, the meatlocker arrives and while she is so frantically trying to calm her father down, he has his final heart attack. TLDR: Not all people who liked Carley liked her for your single reason and Lily was scared for a damn good reason, Larrys fate is a Great example of that.
You really don't like Omid man, History isn't a embarassing hobby, Its actually a very fair hobby, what you said is like saying "Going to school is a embarassing hobby.". Physically? probably yeah, Mentally? I disagree, The apocalypse doesn't seem to have hit him as hard as everyone else, he seems happy all the time, its not a bad thing--its actually good. Christa seems like a very protective person, but once again that is a good trait to have in a group, she probably just has problems in groups because she doesn't like people nosing about her business and shes got somewhat of a attitude--not too rude if you ask me, she always makes a point. Christa and Omids relationship really shouldn't factor in too much in your hate for them, its not that uncommon. as for the patriotic bit you mentioned, Omid went on a road trip, you don't have to be a patriot to do that, nor do you have to be a patriot to love a countries history, I am american and I love scandinavian history, does that mean I am a scandinavian patriot? No, I also like American history alot, does that make me a american patriot? still no.
This post kind of bothered me--you see your being quiet judgmental here when we've only seen them for a qaurter of a episode...and Omid saved Lee, so whos to say he was lieing when he said he saved Christa afew times?
I don't dislike Christa for something so ridiculous, I see her as a completely new character which may factor into that, I Don't see her as the replacement for Lily or Carley.
Episode 1 was a hour, episode 2 was a hour and a half? and episode 3 was like 2 hours? They seem to be getting progressively longer and ill be slightly disappointed if ep4 is anything less than longer than 3. I don't agree with you on the drama bit, but the dialogue bit is a given, afterall what game makes you care about a character that is not your main character without any form of dialogue? even text? I think that we don't have to have more than 2 episodes to get attached as long as its done well, although I won't get so attached to feel anything but surprise due to my nature when I play games.
I feel like I already like Omid/Christa quiet alot--this coming from someone who has no ill feelings towards Ben either.
Blame Kenny for that one, he rushed Lily into leaving, who knows maybe her next course of action Was to get the supplies. Keep in mind I love Kenny but He shouldn't have been so fast in that scene to try to leave Lily, But who knows maybe if he wasn't they would have gotten shot and died.