Why did they kill........?
Carley? 
Was it Drama?
Was it planned from the beginning?
Was it budget cuts?
Was it a short straw draw by the VAs?
Who would really know this answer?
Do we really want to know the answer?
Personally, I think the entire story was set in stone before they even started coding.
Was it Drama?
Was it planned from the beginning?
Was it budget cuts?
Was it a short straw draw by the VAs?
Who would really know this answer?
Do we really want to know the answer?
Personally, I think the entire story was set in stone before they even started coding.
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TT took a memo from Kirkman. U know how when he kills off a character that people care about, it usually effects a character in a big way. The question is, how did it effect you?
is what i think.
See now think that they had episode 1 in stone and the ending because they said that but all of the others I think we had a little part in because after starved for help, when there show "next time on the walking dead" there's the part where there ALL standing in a line including Kenny so they must of but the zombie scene in because I feel until after episode 1 was when they thought, okay let's kill of so and so. (sorry I'm from England so my saying might not make sense)
The reason why I hate the comics :rolleyes:. You can never get truly attached to a character, because they can always die in the next issue or something. This is giving me second thoughts about Clem.
Then also because a fan favorite dieing stirs drama online, and its a pain to keep both her and Doug's storylines parallel like that, so they killed them off. Simple as that.
agreed
Because it's The Walking Dead.
Naw, that's not the reason. Otherwise they would only kill carley but let doug live. Doug was an OK guy, but clearly not as likable as Carley or the other likable characters (Clem, Mark..)
IMO the reason they killed both doug and carley is to not have to do double work for EP4 and EP5. So far they had to make dialogue and cutscenes etc for both characters depending on who you choose to save.
Killing both of them was the cheapest way to save time+money.
Now to the question. TT obviously know what they're doing if killing off one character can cause this outrage. To me this is a win for them, so I think it was planned.
My Lee made the plan with Clem to leave the group- Kenny is a broken reed, and Christa (I believe) made a comment that left me thinking that the group is not always the best idea. Ben? At best, utterly hopeless and at worst a gutless turncoat douchebag. Chuck? A big question mark.
It's gonna have to be some sort of Rambo-esque Michonne type walker-killing warrior maiden to make me forget Carley. She was the best, and I don't expect another to come along with her timing. marksmanship and loyalty.
So get used to characters dying. It's a huge shit sandwich and we're all gonna have to take a bite.
But do you believe that the shot did not kill her! What happens then? Gets her unconscious on the road, shot in the face in a world full of zombies.
The chances are very very very small!!
But I also wanted her to be alive.:
But at the same time, if carley lives and Doug dies everyone who picked Carley would feel cheated because they would have essentially made a "wrong choice" in a game where there are no wrong choices. If Carley was to die at some point, Doug had to die near there as well.
That's what adds to the drama and the tension of The Walking Dead, anyone can die at any time for any reason. You're never truly safe, just safer.
One other thing I see from the Doug/Carley death was that sometimes the obvious doesn't always occur. One would ASSUME that Lilly would have pulled the gun on Kenny or Lee, or someone they care about, for retribution regarding her father. The unintended consequence of acting brashly was that a good person died.
So many things wrong with this statement
But go ahead and stay in la la land, tell me how the chocolate milk made from unicorns tastes!
Carley, by contrast, is a static character. She does not have a character arc or any significant development. She's a supporting character: a likable figure who, while she's part of the story, serves as a voice of reason and morality in the bleak, inhumane world of The Walking Dead. She mainly serves to give Lee a vote of confidence in episode 2 and to provide him an impetus for his own development in episode 3 via the whole "you should be honest about your past" thing, which is also part of the episode's overall theme about coming to grips with reality (mainly with what Chuck says about Clementine's chances of survival or Kenny needing to overcome his denial about Duck). This isn't to denigrate her characterization, but she is what she is - a static, supporting character. Larry and Mark are also static characters.
This is why your "well they could've just killed any of these other characters" thing falls apart. I'm not even going to bother with your wacko "SHE'S TOTALLY NOT DEAD GUYS" shtick. Hell, I probably shouldn't have even typed that mass of crap up, you're probably just screwing around.
Omid has red shirt written all over him, imo
I think Chuck might be dynamic. Already we're having a transition from someone who's a loner to someone who's working with a group.
Things like "dynamic" or "static" character are things you discern over time. Too early to tell. I do, however, like the three new characters. I think that they all have very well-established personalities and character traits that make them engaging and believable as people. I think Telltale's done great with that across the board.
Then they just got killed off 10minutes later by Lilly because she insisted on thinking stealing is like killing... you'd think she'd have more respect for people's lives.
Also if Carley was just supporting there wouldn't be so much sympathy among the people here for her. Judging from the end of ep3 not even Lee cares for her as much as the audience, at least he doesn't seem to mourn.
In a story in which "dynamic" characters are all over the place and act totally random, a character that is reliable and plausible obviously gets more sympathy. So I don't see why her death should be common sense. This might be a bad call by the devs.
But anyway, I don't take issue with her dying per se. But I do with it being executed so sloppily and conveying the feeling that nothing really matters you choose.
It doesn't really work to have the main character breakdown and have an short period of tear-fed angst. Besides, who can he really cry to?
Kenny? (Lost more than Lee)
Ben? (THIS IS SPARTA!...and off the train he goes)
Clem? (She's just a kid)
Chuck? (rofl, please)
Well man, that's just like your opinion man..
She died, she died as so many young women of her generation, before her time. In your wisdom, Lord, you took her as you took so many bright flowering young men at Khe Sanh, at Langdok, at Hill 364. These young men gave their lives. And so would Carley. Carley, who loved radios.
And so, Carley Nicole Vigil, in accordance with what we think your dying wishes might well have been, we commit your final mortal remains to the bosom of the Atlantic Ocean, which you loved so well. Good night, sweet princess.
God damnit! You f*cking asshole! It's a f*cking travesty with you, man! And what was that sh*t about Vietnam?! What the f*ck does anything have to do with Vietnam?! What the f*ck are you talking about?!!
I truly doubt any insult was intended.
I was actually following up on the Big Lebowski reference...
F*ck it, dude. Let's go bowling.
Sorry, for all I knew you were a Vet.
You're right, but don't make me demote you.
no point in finishing the series now.......
might as well just shoot lee too.....
right in the face....
You know on second thought... I wouldnt feel so bad if i could just mourn her death.... let me mourn..... instead all i get is fondness, oh look a train! guess I will forget she ever existed and have a drink with a hobo and then play barber.
You want to fix it? TELLTALE next episode let me mourn the deaths in Episode three! please.... I beg you...... You monsters......
Props for evoking this much emotion from people though.......
even if it was cheap and a low blow..... deep breath regret is all I know