[Ep. 3 - Spoilers] Anyone glad about the changes to the group?
By changes I mean that we've a completely different group from the end of Ep. 1.
Seriously when I saw what a drama bomb my group had become at the end of Ep. 1, I begged the game to let me go with Glenn, rather than stay with that lot.
The tension between Lilly and Kenny's family + Carley, The unmovable wrench in Lee's relation with Larry, the fact Lee does all the work yet it's a power struggle between Lilly and Kenny to be in charge.
Wish I could've just grabbed Mark, Carley, & Clem (Maybe Ben?) and just left at the beginning of Ep. 2 when everyone told me fuck myself for not wanting to go to the dairy. I mean Clem wanted to find her parents and satting about for 3 months in Macon wasn't helping.
But nope, Death has to be the solution...
Seriously when I saw what a drama bomb my group had become at the end of Ep. 1, I begged the game to let me go with Glenn, rather than stay with that lot.
The tension between Lilly and Kenny's family + Carley, The unmovable wrench in Lee's relation with Larry, the fact Lee does all the work yet it's a power struggle between Lilly and Kenny to be in charge.
Wish I could've just grabbed Mark, Carley, & Clem (Maybe Ben?) and just left at the beginning of Ep. 2 when everyone told me fuck myself for not wanting to go to the dairy. I mean Clem wanted to find her parents and satting about for 3 months in Macon wasn't helping.
But nope, Death has to be the solution...
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As someone else said here, replacing nearly the entire cast of characters doesn't do much to help the story halfway into it.
I only wish my list of allies were a little longer. I'm trying my best to be allied with Christa. Kenny and Ben are dead to me. Another concern is that I think Lee is the only one who is armed in the group. That and were on our way to a city that was at last report a stage 9 catastrophy....mabe things are all better now.
^ This. I've been playing the games without ever reading the comic, so all my lore is coming from the game. Buying a zombie game I was of course expecting dirt and grit, but I never expected this dark of a game from Telltale and I applaud them for taking this route (hopefully some of that grit will transfer over to The Fables game, the series I'm REALLY wanting and waiting for). When I first bought this game I never expected that I would be more concerned and nervous of the survivors that I would be of the walkers. But episode 3 made me feel like season 1 ended half way through and we're now in season 2 with a new story arc and a new cast. Making choices has less impact with newer characters than with older ones.
That's not what I meant.
The story is still evolving, we're only in the middle, it's a zombie apocalypse, I expected people to die. That doesn't mean I didn't like the characters and I'm "glad" to move on. Episode 3 made me genuinely angry, shocked, and sad, but that exactly what I signed up for, so kudos to Telltale. I'm looking forward to seeing where this goes and expect it to be increasingly dark and disturbing.
Don't get me wrong. Carley was an alright lady and Doug had me cracking up pretty much every time he opened his mouth. Lilly and I didn't see eye to eye, but I respected her as a character. And Katjaa and Duck's deaths... I may have shed a tear. Or fifty.
But keeping a story with characters that Lee gets along with would be extremely boring. Although I got into the comics after playing the first episode, I am a huge fan of how the comics introduces and kills off people periodically. Sometimes you love them, sometimes you hate them, sometimes you haven't even gotten to know them. And you get stuck with people, in the same way... and your relationships evolve. The game picks up on this trend within the comics and goes with it quite well.
I am not sure, in terms of story, what use there would have been keeping some of the characters for much longer. Mark was a red shirt. Glenn needed to go to Atlanta to match up with the comic/TV canon. Lilly needed to leave for the same reasons, but even so, her role within the plot was done. I can sort of see people complaining about Larry dying, but he was a pain in the butt so I don't mind that much. I don't think the implications of Lilly killing Ben over Carley/Doug would have been as drastic, and it would have completely ruined a potentially EXTREMELY interesting relationship. I really hope Telltale does something interesting with this. And Kenny... well, I honestly am not sure that he's going to live much longer, but I'm hoping because he's my buddy.
I will admit I was sort of hoping for Doug to do something geeky to save the day in a later episode but... oh well. Omid is a bit geeky so I hope he survives this next episode.
For the record, I like both Omid and Christa... especially Omid. I'm kind of curious as to why they're joining a group after Christa kept saying "no" for months though... although I think we all have our suspicions. That are probably correct. About buns and such.
Another thing that happened in this episode, or I think this episode is implying, is the strengthening between Clem and Lee's relationship. I'm sorry but I would have every other main character die if it created interesting possibilities for their relationship to grow and become more nuanced. I don't mind losing some people if there's going to be more focus on Clem and Lee, as it's one of the most interesting adult/child relationships I've seen in a while.
So yeah I am happy that this episode in particular was a catalyst.
Dammit. Now I'm sad about that again.
you mean WILL get worse. Thats already been said
But it's the Going Merry.
True, so I used the word "might" since what is worse than what has already happened is up for debate. Just saying it might be tough to top all the death, suicide, and betrayal in ep 3.
As for the changes after three episodes of drama between Lilly, Kenny and Doug/Carley its nice to have a break with fresh faces and new possibilities.
I'm sad to see Lilly go but her story arc was awesome and thanks to it I became huge fan of hers. Also, we will be able to enjoy "The Road to Woodbury' so that's not the last we've seen of her.
As for the new characters I like them, especially the fact that I haven't really made my mind as whether to trust them or not. The three of them look trustworthy but who knows. We'll see! All I know is that I'm done with Ben and Kenny.
The real challenge TellTale will have now is to make us care about Omid, Christa in Chuck.
Though in truth I already like all of them
Hopefully they don't have some deep hidden secret or stab me in the back...
*cough Lily/Kenny*
Hopefully I can start this episode by getting to know those 3 better before starting 'the calm before the storm'
I'm also hoping for a chance to split up the group since that was an option for Lee to talk about in the train with Clem. I could take Clem, Kenny, and Chuck while Omid and Christa can have...Ben, yep, I'd like that.
You don't give a shit? Good on you... you have arrived in a Zombie Apocalypse, and you know there will be more good byes to come.
1. Hobo
You don't know anything about his shooting skills. He can't shoot because he was homeless when it all began?
2. Kenny (depressed guy)
Can still shoot.
3. 2 random strangers (Christa and Omid)
Again. there is no information you could judge on.
4. Ben (the kid)
What tells you he isn't the fastest shot around by now? Ben wasn't featured in any way, except for some talk.
5. Clem
I heard she's a crack shot now.
Carley was a shocking death that perhaps a few saw come but on the whole it was a wtf which they did well (even if I'd of preferred her to stay alive).
Not a big fan of killing off most of the original members personally, as you struggle to have an attachment to new people when they get introduced at the end of an episode with no real back story, I didn't expect all of Kenny's family to last till the end but half way through was a surprise. Will see how episode 4 goes, we know of at least one new person, the guy on the other end of the walkie-talkie.
It was obvious that within limited financial and time restraints choices up to now would have limited affect on the actual story progression (although good effect on dialouge), TTG can hardly make three different games. I'd expect episode 4 to be similar. My guesses would be a Ben redemption (which probably leads to his death whilst saving Kenny) and/or Lily redemption in a similar way whilst I can't really figure the Clem story. She's a guarantee to be safe until episode 5 (personal think she has to stay alive, it's basically the premise of the series). The two new people appear to be zombie food but we'll see. Chuck could go either way.
Just hope I don't have to wait too long, I'm not very patient...