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45% of players..... *Spoilers inside*

AsariTearsAsariTears
edited October 2012 in The Walking Dead
45 % of players gave Irene the gun to mercy kill herself at the motor inn in chapter 1. Really!?

I thought I would have been in the majority on that one!

If you chose not to give her the gun, what was your reasoning? I'm intrigued by this...

Also, 76% of players chose Carley, lol talk about a landslide. Doug was pretty handy though, with his tech knowledge.

Ep1 done and I'm impressed, despite the save issues.

Comments

  • SikorySikory
    edited October 2012
    I didnt give her the gun because, there was was no option to shoot her myself. I thought it was to risky to just give it to her looking at the state she was in, you never know what else she was gonna do with it.
  • AsariTearsAsariTears
    edited October 2012
    Well that's a good point. But c'mon. She knew the score, her boyfriend had already died and she knew she was going to be next. What would she gain by killing those that haven't been exposed yet?
  • SikorySikory
    edited October 2012
    Well she wouldnt gain anything from it, but in my eyes she looked to unstable to use a gun at that moment. Other thing what if she realizes she cant do it while holding the gun who knows what will happen and since its the only gun the group has its better to keep it rather then giving it to a stranger. Nevertheless I wanted to grant her mercy, but only when i could have done it myself so it would have been without risk.

    Edit: Same reason i picked Carley btw, she had the gun. I thought she might be able to not just save herself, but also others.
  • CooperalCooperal
    edited October 2012
    Irene was already a goner. For me, compassion had to take the back seat just incase that bullet could prevent another tragedy at a later point. I was in no place to know many how shots Carley brought with her. Giving a weapon to a dying person is also never a good idea. They have no consequences to fear if they use it for ill-means before turning it on themselves.

    I want to help as many people as I can, but only if they stand a chance of living.
  • AsariTearsAsariTears
    edited October 2012
    You both make valid points but I think because she was already telling you to go away to "save yourselves" kind of thing, she had expressed concern for your well-being before even talking with her. So I knew she wouldn't then become sum evil bitch when she had the gun. If she was clearly going insane or irrational then I wouldn't have either. I guess it just comes down to trust and judge of character.
  • Master of AeonsMaster of Aeons
    edited October 2012
    I didn't deny her the gun, I replied with silence because I think if someone in real life asked me to help them kill myself, I'd be taken aback too. Then she rushed me and stole the gun.
  • PuhChewyChompPuhChewyChomp
    edited October 2012
    Turns out
    it didn't matter either way
    .
  • Natalie1213Natalie1213
    edited October 2012
    I gave her the gun. I mean, it's a scary situation that takes you back, but irl I would've given her the gun because it was obvious that she was suffering so much and just wanted to end it and not become one of them, and since she's going to die either way, I also would want her to die as her and not as one of the Walkers. Same reason that I shot the girl in ep 3, mercy.
  • craftyardcraftyard
    edited October 2012
    PuhChewyChomp wrote: »
    Turns out
    it didn't matter either way
    .

    Yes, it did.

    It alters how the scene plays out, as well as peoples' opinion of you.
  • RoboSheriffRoboSheriff
    edited October 2012
    i want to know whats the reasoning of people that give guns to strangers lol
  • WowMuttWowMutt
    edited October 2012
    AsariTears wrote: »
    Well that's a good point. But c'mon. She knew the score, her boyfriend had already died and she knew she was going to be next. What would she gain by killing those that haven't been exposed yet?

    Ya right.. but then, what does she have to lose?
  • WowMuttWowMutt
    edited October 2012
    craftyard wrote: »
    Yes, it did.

    It alters how the scene plays out, as well as peoples' opinion of you.

    True, and I know we dont know it at the time, but.. in the end it doesnt matter.. Glenn leaves, Carley dies.. So it doesnt matter!
  • Rock114Rock114
    edited October 2012
    Mercy, again. Then again, I drew upon my vast knowledge of zombie culture that I have accumulated over the years to predict the outcomes of events and the wisest course of action. When someone offers to take themself out after they've been bitten, they usually mean it. Then again, that's a little unfair because the people in The Walking Dead have never even heard of the word zombie, so theres a larger chance that in that situation, no one from the walking dead universe would ahve given her the gun.
  • IndigoHawkIndigoHawk
    edited October 2012
    I wish Lee would have shot her. It was cruel to make her kill herself.
  • MilosuperspeshMilosuperspesh
    edited October 2012
    did both lol kinda prefer the give her the gun option cos the falling off the balcony is kinda brutal and may lead to some health issues in ep4/ep5 ;)
  • CyreenCyreen
    edited October 2012
    I gave her the gun in both my saves, that one was just a given.
  • zgamerzgamer
    edited October 2012
    I tried to play it from the perspective of the Lee I played along with the context of the scene. It is the very beginning of an unknown outbreak of something that no one has any understanding about. There is no proof that early on to say it is incurable or how fast it spreads and kills the host. You would want to help somebody who is injured and just because the injury is a bite does not mean you cannot try to help. Lee had never encountered a bite victim who had not already reanimated yet so her just shouting it is incurable should not be taken as just a sure conclusion. So I would say not wanting to shoot her is a defensible option in that vein of thinking.
  • thestalkingheadthestalkinghead
    edited October 2012
    IndigoHawk wrote: »
    I wish Lee would have shot her. It was cruel to make her kill herself.

    yeah i would have liked that as an option, she was a Christian i think and that means you go to hell if you kill yourself, so it would have been nicer to say "god be with you" or whatever the exact quote was, then shoot her, not reference her religion just before she seals the deal and goes to hell
  • IndigoHawkIndigoHawk
    edited October 2012
    thestalkinghead wrote: »
    yeah i would have liked that as an option, she was a Christian i think and that means you go to hell if you kill yourself, so it would have been nicer to say "god be with you" or whatever the exact quote was, then shoot her, not reference her religion just before she seals the deal and goes to hell

    Most branches of Christianity consider suicide a very serious sin, but not one that necessarily damns the person. However, since it's a serious sin, it could be the final act that shows that someone has turned from God and damns them.

    I thought about her beliefs, and I'm glad others did too. Probably asking to be killed is a sin, but hopefully it is a lesser sin than suicide.
  • owynowyn
    edited October 2012
    Mainly, because giving your only gun to a mentally disturbed person is not a very good idea (ep3 spoiler:
    as Lily proved later
    ).
  • thestalkingheadthestalkinghead
    edited October 2012
    IndigoHawk wrote: »
    Most branches of Christianity consider suicide a very serious sin, but not one that necessarily damns the person. However, since it's a serious sin, it could be the final act that shows that someone has turned from God and damns them.

    I thought about her beliefs, and I'm glad others did too. Probably asking to be killed is a sin, but hopefully it is a lesser sin than suicide.

    maybe it could be seen as a self sacrificial act to save others, and i think that is a way to get around it else a soldier(or whoever) that knowingly puts other people lives ahead of theirs and dies wont go to heaven eg. jumping on a grenade.

    i think that is a near automatic entrance to heaven or at least a serious virtue.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-sacrifice
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_virtues (under Charity section)
  • rachellouise85rachellouise85
    edited October 2012
    wouldn't asking someone to kill you be almost the same thing as suicide? Anyway, you would be asking/making someone else to commit murder. She probably saw committing suicide as the 'least sinful' between the three choices, when faced with them. She would probably care about asking, I wouldn't have cared if she had asked, I'm not religious. Though I did say God bless you for her. I was more worried about the gunshot, rather than her turning the gun on us.
  • thestalkingheadthestalkinghead
    edited October 2012
    rachellouise85 wrote: »
    wouldn't asking someone to kill you be almost the same thing as suicide? Anyway, you would be asking/making someone else to commit murder. She probably saw committing suicide as the 'least sinful' between the three choices, when faced with them. She would probably care about asking, I wouldn't have cared if she had asked, I'm not religious. Though I did say God bless you for her. I was more worried about the gunshot, rather than her turning the gun on us.

    she wouldn't need to ask, when she made it clear that she didn't want to become a zombie and she was willing to kill herself to stop it, i would just offer to kill her myself and tell her she doesn't have to do it herself
  • rachellouise85rachellouise85
    edited October 2012
    thestalkinghead wrote: »
    she wouldn't need to ask, when she made it clear that she didn't want to become a zombie and she was willing to kill herself to stop it, i would just offer to kill her myself and tell her she doesn't have to do it herself

    I don't think she would have accepted it. For the same reasons I think she didn't ask. I think the others would be a little..errr...(I don't know how to put it)...if I just insisted she let me kill her.
  • thestalkingheadthestalkinghead
    edited October 2012
    rachellouise85 wrote: »
    I don't think she would have accepted it. For the same reasons I think she didn't ask. I think the others would be a little..errr...(I don't know how to put it)...if I just insisted she let me kill her.

    i wouldn't insist, but just put it out there so she knows its an option
  • AsariTearsAsariTears
    edited October 2012
    IndigoHawk wrote: »
    Most branches of Christianity consider suicide a very serious sin, but not one that necessarily damns the person. However, since it's a serious sin, it could be the final act that shows that someone has turned from God and damns them.

    I thought about her beliefs, and I'm glad others did too. Probably asking to be killed is a sin, but hopefully it is a lesser sin than suicide.

    No matter the cost of the sin, if a Zombie Apocalypse is happening. I think it's safe to say God is damning the Earth anyway.

    Suicide takes on a different meaning in a post-apocalyptic world.
  • deleted45551884deleted45551884 Banned
    edited October 2012
    From my perspective, I would NEVER help someone commit suicide. I know it's stupid, but that's just me. I can't do it in real life or in a game. I understand the circumstances, and I felt for her, but just not my thing. I do understand it was a mercy thing and I can admire people able to make the choice.
  • RafaelBrasileiroRafaelBrasileiro
    edited October 2012
    vixvicco wrote: »
    From my perspective, I would NEVER help someone commit suicide. I know it's stupid, but that's just me. I can't do it in real life or in a game. I understand the circumstances, and I felt for her, but just not my thing. I do understand it was a mercy thing and I can admire people able to make the choice.
    the same here.
    I felt sorry for her, but I did not want to help her commit suicide.
    and also I did not want her fired and attract walkers but the opposite happened.
  • chaz99chaz99
    edited October 2012
    There is a previous thread dealing with the same question.

    55% lack compassion

    Religious sanctions against suicide don't really answer a philosophical question.

    The question in this situation is: Is helping a person to commit suicide an immoral act?

    Answer: Usually. However, if by leaving a person alive who could subsequently harm others, or if there is clear evidence that the person is making a sound judgement that continuing to live could bring harm and distress to oneself and others, then it could be considered the right thing to do.

    One should avoid NEVER like the plague. Unless you use it to state "you never know what life will throw at you".

    Doctor-assisted suicide is on the books in a number of countries and in three states of the USA.
  • DreadMagusDreadMagus
    edited October 2012
    RoboSheriff wrote: »
    i want to know whats the reasoning of people that give guns to strangers lol

    I wasn't able to shoot her, she wanted to die, and I didn't want to deal with another zombie.
  • KeliumKelium
    edited October 2012
    Heck no I need all the bullets I can save, plus the noise would attract more undead!
  • DreadMagusDreadMagus
    edited October 2012
    Ya know, you're right. We should have had the option to do a MacLeod on her.
  • KeliumKelium
    edited October 2012
    DreadMagus wrote: »
    Ya know, you're right. We should have had the option to do a MacLeod on her.


    Sarcasm or serious?:confused:
  • DreadMagusDreadMagus
    edited October 2012
    Maybe. :)
  • SadClownSadClown
    edited October 2012
    I didn't give her the gun because I was afraid the gun shot would attract walkers.
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