Give Ben a Chance!
So you all think Ben isn't a sympathetic character? You think Ben's a big dumbass? You think Ben should die?
Jerks.
Ben is us. I'm serious, in the real world we are all what Ben is, the guy that means well and occasionally makes things worse when he's trying to help out.
Okay, I can tell that didn't work. You all think that you're better than Ben. My bad, I forgot that each and every one you is the King Arthur of your own Camelot fantasy and of course you'd just never ever fuck up in a zombie apocalypse. Fine, go sit in your throne and scoff at me. But think about this while you scoff down caviar tonight.
Ben's character is redemption personified. He has messed up, and yeah, he feels guilty. But if you never give up on him, even when he gives up on himself, I have a feeling that he will eventually come through.
I am now staking my prediction: Ben's character is going to have a major moment in Ep.5. He will literally be Super Ben. He will like, somehow save Lee's life or something. Or maybe something slightly less significant, I don't know what, the point is that Ben is going to do something awesome and everyone of you who let him die will literally choke on your shark fin soup when you realize I'm right. How dare you.
Or I could be totally wrong, in which case I give you all permission to shit all over this page while I denounce and reject myself.
Jerks.
Ben is us. I'm serious, in the real world we are all what Ben is, the guy that means well and occasionally makes things worse when he's trying to help out.
Okay, I can tell that didn't work. You all think that you're better than Ben. My bad, I forgot that each and every one you is the King Arthur of your own Camelot fantasy and of course you'd just never ever fuck up in a zombie apocalypse. Fine, go sit in your throne and scoff at me. But think about this while you scoff down caviar tonight.
Ben's character is redemption personified. He has messed up, and yeah, he feels guilty. But if you never give up on him, even when he gives up on himself, I have a feeling that he will eventually come through.
I am now staking my prediction: Ben's character is going to have a major moment in Ep.5. He will literally be Super Ben. He will like, somehow save Lee's life or something. Or maybe something slightly less significant, I don't know what, the point is that Ben is going to do something awesome and everyone of you who let him die will literally choke on your shark fin soup when you realize I'm right. How dare you.
Or I could be totally wrong, in which case I give you all permission to shit all over this page while I denounce and reject myself.
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Maybe I'm just too old to view Ben from a more sympathetic point of view, but now with Ep. 4 I'm just wondering what Ben has to do to finally alienate his defenders.
HOWEVER.... I when I saw that trailer for episode 4 and saw Ben leave Clem to the walkers; I was back to hating him and wanting to let him die the first chance I got. In fact I started this episode ready to kill him, I made it my mission kill Ben. As the episode progressed I thought to myself, how can Ben possibly f*** up worse than getting Carly killed and leaving Clem? Now the part that amazes me is when Ben took the hatchet out of the door.... I can rant on and on about this but I just said this: "The f*** up of the year award goes to.... Ben from S&M High!" Bravo Ben Bravo....Did I mention I really wanted to kill him?
Then came the glorious moment...the moment I had been waiting for, I finally had Ben's life literally in my hands, and what do I do? I pull his dumb ass up. I saved him even after all of his f*** ups. Why? Because of the scene before where Clementine stood up for him. She reminded me of Carly and was willing to forgive him for leaving her to die. I swear throughout the entire series so far Carly and Clementine have always managed to keep my moral compass point north.
I tip my hat to Telltale games for the amazing job they have done so far.
I don't trust him to come during Lee's final moments, however I do trust him with the boat and hope that when Lee's gone, he and Kenny can reconcile and perhaps take care of Clementine together.
Maybe in some flash-forward, we'll see Kenny and Benny (Ben with Kenny's stache) killing Walkers together while raising Clementine (despite flash forwards never going to happen).
I was never mad at them when he was stealing and giving the supplies to bandits. He just wanted us safe.
He makes stupid moves most of the time. Why would he tell Kenny about what you done to KAT and DUCK? In this situation? You can always tell Kenny when we make it safe to the house. He got another person killed while keeping door closed.
I was upset with him that he didn't save Clem. <~ Stupid move.
Somehow a stranger like chuck saved the kid on episode 4. Chuck have more balls and cares about the group more than he does.
Lets all hope that Ben will cherish this chance that I gave him and protect Clem when lee is gone.
Or else I become one of them and have a piece of meat of BEN
But I REALLLLY wanted to.
When he was in my hands, I said hahaha payback time!
but, if I killed him, what I win? NOTHING! If I did that and let Ben die,everything that Carley said about me would be a lie!
Carley died protecting this USELESS! I could not kill him!
Ben, FUCK YOU! FUCK YOU! You're lucky Carley thought I was a good man! So FUCK YOU!
He is a good person, but I still think he Coward and Ass! AND L STILL HATE Ben!
Oops.
If he's not screwing up with a criminal lack of common sense, he was just plain cowardly, e.g. abandoning Clementine when he was armed... and who had the lapse in judgement to even give the kid a gun I have no idea.
Trading with the bandits was just plain stupid considering Jolene gave us the story about what happened when she "begged them every way she could" for her daughter and we know how that turned out. Oh yeah, the people known for little things like rape and murder are surely going to be above lying.
And pulling the hatchet out of the door that's covered top to bottom in blood? Really? This shouldn't require any sort of explanation. It didn't occur to him to atleast ask "hey, this seems kinda strange, is this maybe important?".
He's had his three swings, and they were all strikes. He causes, or contributes to the deaths of no less than three people (And no, I'm not counting Carley/Doug) and abandoned Clem to be eaten alive. The only redeeming quality he had is that he finally understood he was dead weight the group shouldn't have to pull.
But seriouslly, he done fucked it up 3-4 times in this episode.
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If I have to choose between him and Clem, It's Clem.
If I have to choose between him and Chuck, It's Chuck.
If I have to choose between him and Christa-Omid, It's them.
But if I have a chance to deliberately kill him, I won't kill him.
LMAO oh that simile is the perfect description for Ben. Reverse king midas, that's golden hahaha
In all seriousness though, every time I see his face it just reminds me of what happened at the motor inn. After episode 4 he angered me even more. I still pulled him up though since I'm not willing to kill anyone that is not a direct threat to lee's life or clem's. He is easily the character that I hate the most in the Walking Dead
I mean really would you let a 16-18 year old kid die just because of his mistakes??? The fact of the matter is he will have to live the rest of his life knowing his actions allowed for 3 people to die even though he was thinking about helping the group. I think thats punishment enough. I know many of us in real life couldnt handle that, I know I couldnt.
Also the fact he wanted to tell Kenny that it was his fault actually made me respect him a little more, he had the guts to tell the man it was his fault. I dont know if many of us could do that.
End post lol.
The only way he could redeem himself was by dying as well, his first act of selflessness in the group and also his last.
Man I thought he was going to drop it or something and it was going to cut into my face and kill me!
Love Ben to death, the entire character is golden, #1 Ben fan here!