Okay TellTale is so cruel to be honest

edited October 2012 in The Walking Dead
Okay after an hour of my first play of Ep 4 I felt really sick in my stomach letting Ben die like that just because of a personal vendetta the group and myself had with him.

did anybody else feel that way afterwards?

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  • edited October 2012
    Joshua1991 wrote: »
    Okay after an hour of my first play of Ep 4 I felt really sick in my stomach letting Ben die like that just because of a personal vendetta the group and myself had with him.

    did anybody else feel that way afterwards?

    I felt happy.
  • edited October 2012
    Well you let him fall down not telltale. In my play though I saved him.
    So the title should read, "Oh god I'm a horrible person D:" but at least Acadias will save me still.

    If you can convince me at least.
  • edited October 2012
    to be honest, after I saved him, I was feeling bad for not revenge.
  • edited October 2012
    to be honest, after I saved him, I was feeling bad for not revenge.

    After I saved him I thought nothing about it, but I'm glad he came with me because if he had said no, I would have left myself in a locked room with him until I turned.
  • edited October 2012
    to be honest, after I saved him, I was feeling bad for not revenge.

    I wanted revenge and I dropped him and felt like crap afterwards. Don't feel bad.
  • edited October 2012
    I didn't want revenge when I dropped him. He said he wanted me to save the others, and Kenny even nodded. I did it with Ben's consent, for the group, not any personal vendetta Kenny or I had with him. I thought he would die even if I tried to save him, which also influenced it. I felt like total shit afterward though, especially when Omid and Clem asked where he was. I saw Ben in a completely different light, for the last 5 seconds of his life after I let him drop.
  • edited October 2012
    I wanted revenge and I dropped him and felt like crap afterwards. Don't feel bad.

    I saved him, don't regret it one bit, if I had to choose between chuck, molly, christa, omid, and kenny, i'd still choose ben over everyone of them.

    Ben tries to do good but doesn't know how to, thats why hes made so many mistakes, hes a good kid and i'll stick by him until I can't anymore.
  • edited October 2012
    Joshua1991 wrote: »
    Okay after an hour of my first play of Ep 4 I felt really sick in my stomach letting Ben die like that just because of a personal vendetta the group and myself had with him.

    did anybody else feel that way afterwards?

    Oh, I'm not the only one then. Man I felt so guilty and selfish doing that. I wanted to go back and save him ubt that would ruin the whole point of the game.
  • edited October 2012
    SonnyN18 wrote: »
    Oh, I'm not the only one then. Man I felt so guilty and selfish doing that. I wanted to go back and save him ubt that would ruin the whole point of the game.

    Yeah, I wanted so badly to rewind and save him after I noticed that only his legs were broken. Thankfully I didn't, as it would ruin my canon save to ever rewind.
  • edited October 2012
    Rock114 wrote: »
    Yeah, I wanted so badly to rewind and save him after I noticed that only his legs were broken. Thankfully I didn't, as it would ruin my canon save to ever rewind.
    Yeah these games are really only enjoyable when the choices you make stick.
  • edited October 2012
    Strange, I did not let him die for the same reason that I wanted to kill him.
    But really, when I saved him, I thought I'd go back just to drop it down ...
    I saved him, but dedicate my signature to hate him.
    this game is incredible
  • edited October 2012
    To be fair, Ben's demise, if you let it happen, is pretty horrific, but the decision itself didn't have much tension. There was no, 'do I have time to save him, or will the walkers get me/someone else before I do?' type pressure. I was just waiting for the 'SAVE' option to appear and didn't hesitate once it did.

    I saved him for the same reason I showed the group Lee's bite - it's better for someone to leave the group and at least have a fighting chance, than be bumped off a la Carley.
  • edited October 2012
    To be fair, Ben's demise, if you let it happen, is pretty horrific, but the decision itself didn't have much tension. There was no, 'do I have time to save him, or will the walkers get me/someone else before I do?' type pressure. I was just waiting for the 'SAVE' option to appear and didn't hesitate once it did.

    I saved him for the same reason I showed the group Lee's bite - it's better for someone to leave the group and at least have a fighting chance, than be bumped off a la Carley.

    Yeah, it wasn't astense/immediate as it could have been....though I guess making a split second decision wasn't the point.
  • edited October 2012
    I had always been waiting on Ben to get in over his head and die. When this came up and he said "Lee, you know what has to be done" I felt a little proud of him. He was a huge liability and knew it. He made the right choice and I honored it. I'm glad Clem understood.
  • edited October 2012
    I could imagine returning to Crawford belltower so I can throw down Ben's corpse one more time... a third if he is zombified.
  • edited October 2012
    I saved Ben. That was a big moment for players to face their morality. Ben asked to be dropped because he was suicidally depressed from guilt and was looking for a way to die. He wasn't in his right mind. If you dropped him because you hated him, had a vendetta, or supported Kenny losing more of his humanity by murdering a kid for him, that's fine, but it's wrong to use the words of a suicidal person to ease the guilt.

    Did anyone drop Ben because they thought there wasn't enough time to save him? It looks like there was plenty of time. However, if you dropped him for that reason, then you didn't murder him and don't need to feel guilty. In TWD, survival is more important than morality.
  • ThadeumThadeum Banned
    edited October 2012
    I saved him and then I killed him.

    After my first playthrough, which is the most instinctive playthrough, usually where Lee is a nice guy, I go on the "Bastard Lee", shouting on everyone, caring of noone, killing whoever he can.

    Way to have different experiences xD
  • edited October 2012
    I saved Ben too and agree this choice had a strong morale choice of forgiving someone for stupid choices and mistakes they made while trying to do right by everyone. Ben wasn't an ass and he certainly didn't try and harm the group. He was a kid...not even out of high school, I couldn't drop him during my initial play through, it was the wrong thing to do.

    I mean the kid came clean to Kenny even after my objections to doing so, he had a good heart and his guilt was killing him. Even if I wanted him dead (I did want to beat him slightly when he came clean to me on the train) I wouldn't have dropped him into walkers, I'd only do that to my worst enemy like the fool who has Clem....I will tie him up and lock myself in a room with him to exact my revenge when I turn.
  • edited October 2012
    Thadeum wrote: »
    I saved him and then I killed him.

    After my first playthrough, which is the most instinctive playthrough, usually where Lee is a nice guy, I go on the "Bastard Lee", shouting on everyone, caring of noone, killing whoever he can.

    Way to have different experiences xD

    Haha, that is how I play my second run through too!! :D
  • edited October 2012
    Demonseed wrote: »
    I saved Ben too and agree this choice had a strong morale choice of forgiving someone for stupid choices and mistakes they made while trying to do right by everyone. Ben wasn't an ass and he certainly didn't try and harm the group. He was a kid...not even out of high school, I couldn't drop him during my initial play through, it was the wrong thing to do.

    I mean the kid came clean to Kenny even after my objections to doing so, he had a good heart and his guilt was killing him. Even if I wanted him dead (I did want to beat him slightly when he came clean to me on the train) I wouldn't have dropped him into walkers, I'd only do that to my worst enemy like the fool who has Clem....I will tie him up and lock myself in a room with him to exact my revenge when I turn.

    Ben really grows a pair at the school.

    "How man are out there! The plan changes every time walkers show up!" He confronted Kenny about the plan, while not smart, is braver than he has been so far. He wilted every time another group member said something.

    Then he confesses to Kenny. I even told him to shut up, and he just shouts "Fuck you Lee!" Asshoe Ben is takin' no prisoners.
  • edited October 2012
    Yes he did grow a set, I was glad but his timing was shit! I mean really?? During a harrowing escape he wants to come clean? It wouldn't have been my choice to break the bad news.
  • edited October 2012
    Rock114 wrote: »
    I didn't want revenge when I dropped him. He said he wanted me to save the others, and Kenny even nodded.

    When was all this? I see people referencing these two events all the time. In my play-through I was alone with Ben atop the bell tower. Got no nod or no self-sacrificing moment really.
  • edited October 2012
    Good thing I pulled him up ^.^

    I'll be honest, I like Ben. I was barely even mad when he confessed in Episode 3.

    Plus, you people seriously murdered Clementine's only sort-of-a-kid friend? YOU ARE ALL MONSTERS.
  • edited October 2012
    Joshua1991 wrote: »
    Okay after an hour of my first play of Ep 4 I felt really sick in my stomach letting Ben die like that just because of a personal vendetta the group and myself had with him.

    did anybody else feel that way afterwards?

    This is why Im glad I didnt drop him. I dont understand how people can feel happy about getting revenge on a kid who already feels bad. Where is the vindication in that?
  • edited October 2012
    I didnt even shoot the bell zombie...help bandits? yeah ok maybe lack of judgement, he's young and trying to help the group. Leave Clem to die in the streets? ok this guy is a liability...OPEN THE DOOR WITH ZOMBIES BEHIND IT?! yeah tough choice.
  • edited October 2012
    I saved Ben, pissed me off having to save him again due to his incompetence

    and im someone who killed Jolene, Danny and Andy and told the mystery guy id kill him at every possible time (including, nay, ESPECIALLY the last time and I WILL kill him)
  • edited October 2012
    I tried to shoot Ben in the head in the belltower. He left Clem in streets..after that it didn't matter what he did; he was a dead man.
  • edited October 2012
    If you tell him to do it when he starts to confess, he will choose to come with you instead of you having to confess, or atleast he did for me, that bit in EP3 when you asked him again at the train if he did it probably is a factor aswell.
  • edited October 2012
    Ben is an idiot. He's made more mistakes in a few days than most people do in a lifetime. So I figure maybe he won't make another mistake for the rest of his life. I saved him. The living are a valuable commodity now.
  • edited October 2012
    LokiHavok wrote: »
    When was all this? I see people referencing these two events all the time. In my play-through I was alone with Ben atop the bell tower. Got no nod or no self-sacrificing moment really.

    When Lee grabs Ben and asks him to climb up, Ben says "no" and tells Lee that he can't be saved. Ben continues on to say Lee needs to drop him so that he can get the rest of the group out of there and back to the house. Then, Kenny calls Lee's name and when Lee looks back Kenny gives him a little nod saying "do it, he doesn't deserve to live. It's OK." All of that is BEFORE you are actually given the choice.
  • edited October 2012
    I saved him.

    Because it was my choice. And it was the right choice. Ben's a fuckup. I'm not.
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