Who Else Went To Save ***** Alone?

edited October 2012 in The Walking Dead
At the end. I wanted to go alone. To gather my (Lee's) thoughts. Decide what I should do after I save Clem.

And if I turn I don't want to endanger others. And Lee would make it to the house if he had Clem with him.

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  • edited October 2012
    I didn't, but dude, topic title spoilers. You might want to fix that pronto.

    Edit: Oops, silly me...we're in the spoilers forum :D I thought we were in the other one. Hurr.
  • edited October 2012
    I thought the same too at first but Christa makes a point that Lee might not be able save Clem in his zombification condition and then I let them come along.
  • ThadeumThadeum Banned
    edited October 2012
    I just gathered everyone to come with me.

    I never had a clue I could go alone :-) I will see that on replay.

    But still, if you really go alone, then who is gonna kill you once you transform? Mwahaha.
  • edited October 2012
    Thadeum wrote: »
    I just gathered everyone to come with me.

    I never had a clue I could go alone :-) I will see that on replay.

    But still, if you really go alone, then who is gonna kill you once you transform? Mwahaha.

    obviously clementine will since if you bring her along earlier she kills her first walker and saves molly. I think its the right way to go, you taught her to use a gun, made sure she was ready to survive if lee ever got infected and now that she can defend herself its time to let lee go knowing hes done a good enough job before he dies.
  • ThadeumThadeum Banned
    edited October 2012
    Luigi01080 wrote: »
    obviously clementine will since if you bring her along earlier she kills her first walker and saves molly. I think its the right way to go, you taught her to use a gun, made sure she was ready to survive if lee ever got infected and now that she can defend herself its time to let lee go knowing hes done a good enough job before he dies.

    Wait, you forgot something here:

    IF you find her BEFORE... :D
  • edited October 2012
    My Lee knows hes going to die, He knows he needs all the help he can.
    If Lee dies while searching at least I have 4 others who will continue the search.

    Hopefully it doesn't end up like the Farm
  • edited October 2012
    in ep. 5 one chapter title kind of hints that lee might not turn.
  • ThadeumThadeum Banned
    edited October 2012
    CH1VO_BLU3 wrote: »
    in ep. 5 one chapter title kind of hints that lee might not turn.

    You know how this is gonna end.

    He is bitten man...

    His life has only one way to end, or to never end. No other solution.

    And, there is only 5 places on the boat.
  • edited October 2012
    I took everyone who wanted to go. Saving Clem is more important than Lee collecting his thoughts, and Lee (with his bite) is no longer a reliable guardian. If other people want to endanger themselves to save Clem, then I will accept their willingness to risk themselves gratefully.
  • edited October 2012
    Thadeum wrote: »
    You know how this is gonna end.

    He is bitten man...

    His life has only one way to end, or to never end. No other solution.


    Dale in the comics managed to survive a bite, after he got bit they cut his leg off just in time. They are in a hospital after all, plenty of stuff to cut a limb off.
  • ThadeumThadeum Banned
    edited October 2012
    Dale in the comics managed to survive a bite, after he got bit they cut his leg off just in time. They are in a hospital after all, plenty of stuff to cut a limb off.

    Except that you could hide the bite, and also he was more talking about saving Clem than talking about chopping his arm off (and I chose the show'em all solution). It is highly unprobable he will survive this.

    Having Lee survive is a sweet dream that is never gonna happen. The same illusion Kenny had about Duck.

    You know how it ended...

    ---x_x--->
  • edited October 2012
    but it is more plausible for Lee to survive than duck if we cut that shit off
  • edited October 2012
    Playing Devil's Advocate here...I wouldn't be surprised if Lee's survival could go either way in episode 5 depending on decisions you make in that episode and decisions you've made in past ones. For example, I don't think there's much hope for him OR Clem if he's going at it alone, but if he's got a whole group with him then there might be a small chance he'll pull through.

    Especially true if the amputation idea becomes a reality. Lee would be a bleeding, one-handed tragedy who couldn't fight his way out of a paper bag for a long time. That's not the kind of plan you take when you're all alone. If he has some support, though, it may become a possibility. Slap a tourniquet on the arm until business is taken care of, then amputate that crap when you've gotten to relative safety.

    Of course it's all a huge amount of "maybe"s and "if"s. TTG could really make a hundred resolutions considering it's the final episode...but who knows how things will pan out.

    Now...personally? As much as I love Lee, I'm not seeing a happy ending for this. I never did.

    Edit: I should note that I'm not a reader/watcher of the TV series or comics. It's totally possible that the above idea wouldn't work jack shit and I just don't know it.
  • edited October 2012
    He's going to die. After being bitten, he talked with the group and walked all the way to the waterfront, then through the sewers to the fallout shelter. Amputation must be done immediately after a bite, and the group didn't have anything to do it with. The infection is in his system now, and he's a dead man walking.
  • ThadeumThadeum Banned
    edited October 2012
    Rock114 wrote: »
    he's a dead man walking.

    He is a walking dead :p
  • edited October 2012
    At the end. I wanted to go alone. To gather my (Lee's) thoughts. Decide what I should do after I save Clem.

    And if I turn I don't want to endanger others. And Lee would make it to the house if he had Clem with him.

    I wanted to go alone on the fact that I can't really trust anyone in the crew. However since Lee got bit, going alone might endanger Clem since he might turn. So I swallowed my own feelings on the matter and brought people. Gotta do what's best for Clem
  • edited October 2012
    I totally asked for everyone's help, even though Kenny refused to help. I don't want Lee to die alone, I want him to be with his friends (especially Clem) when the time comes. I don't think it's that dangerous, really. They will see when Lee starts turning, just like they did with Duck.
  • edited October 2012
    Rock114 wrote: »
    He's going to die. After being bitten, he talked with the group and walked all the way to the waterfront, then through the sewers to the fallout shelter. Amputation must be done immediately after a bite, and the group didn't have anything to do it with. The infection is in his system now, and he's a dead man walking.

    Well it's been done in the comics before, as long as the amputation is done right just check up zombies on the walking dead wiki
  • edited October 2012
    I went alone. Didn't even tell the others I got bit. After the way none of them could be bothered to keep an eye on Clementine when she wandered out of the house because they were too busy with their own problems/not doing their job/just sitting around getting drunk, I was pretty much fed up with all of them anyway. And after what happened with Larry, I wouldn't trust Kenny not to just shoot Lee at the first opportunity. Him and Ben are both so untrustworthy, I think they'd be more of a liability than a help.

    Pretty much Lee's only goal at this point is to make sure Clem's okay before he dies. The others have a chance at getting away. As soon as Kenny mentioned there not being enough room on the boat, I figured Lee would be the one staying behind anyway. This way, they don't have to worry about Lee turning. And as for putting Clementine in danger, the infection seems to take a while to spread from a bite. That means he should have plenty of time to off himself before he turns. So he has that much time to find Clem and get her to safety.
  • edited October 2012
    magodesky wrote: »
    I went alone. Didn't even tell the others I got bit. After the way none of them could be bothered to keep an eye on Clementine when she wandered out of the house because they were too busy with their own problems/not doing their job/just sitting around getting drunk, I was pretty much fed up with all of them anyway. And after what happened with Larry, I wouldn't trust Kenny not to just shoot Lee at the first opportunity. Him and Ben are both so untrustworthy, I think they'd be more of a liability than a help.

    Pretty much Lee's only goal at this point is to make sure Clem's okay before he dies. The others have a chance at getting away. As soon as Kenny mentioned there not being enough room on the boat, I figured Lee would be the one staying behind anyway. This way, they don't have to worry about Lee turning. And as for putting Clementine in danger, the infection seems to take a while to spread from a bite. That means he should have plenty of time to off himself before he turns. So he has that much time to find Clem and get her to safety.

    At best his time is a day ( but not even that, zombification will drain all his energy until he dies and turn ). I got everyone along ( besides Ben because i dropped him ) and all of them was intent in helping me find Clem because I know I'll can't do it alone being since any chance of Lee living can be done with people behind my back.
  • edited October 2012
    I hid the bite and then went off alone. It seemed fitting since the series started with Lee and Clem that it would end with them together. I look forward to the emotional scene where Lee says goodbye right before Clem is forced to shoot him. Clem is a strong girl and is more than capable of making the long walk to the boat on her own.

    I guess i'm just a sucker for dramatic endings. :)
  • edited October 2012
    Jedted wrote: »
    I hid the bite and then went off alone. It seemed fitting since the series started with Lee and Clem that it would end with them together. I look forward to the emotional scene where Lee says goodbye right before Clem is forced to shoot him. Clem is a strong girl and is more than capable of making the long walk to the boat on her own.

    I guess i'm just a sucker for dramatic endings. :)

    That would actually be quite moving and poignant. Dang now I got to replay the ending haha
  • edited October 2012
    Also, a real leader is willing to sacrifice himself for the lives of the group. Everyone else has been through enough, i didn't want to force them to risk their lives for Clem.

    Plus i have faith that Lee can stave off this zombie infection long enough to save her.
  • edited October 2012
    Jedted wrote: »
    Also, a real leader is willing to sacrifice himself for the lives of the group. Everyone else has been through enough, i didn't want to force them to risk their lives for Clem.

    Plus i have faith that Lee can stave off this zombie infection long enough to save her.

    It's one thing to sacrifice yourself. It's another to let Clem die because you're too busy being a real leader to admit that you're dying and need help saving her. But maybe you're right that Lee can save her on his own.

    Anyway, I didn't force anyone to go. I asked if they wanted to save Clem. Anyone who said yes went. They made their own decision to risk for her or not. Christa had a great comment about how they all wanted to look after Clem.
  • edited October 2012
    Thadeum wrote: »
    He is a walking dead :p

    I've always believed the title "The Walking Dead" does not refer to the Walkers... or Geeks (I love Molly)... but rather every living character. I mean if you take the history of the "Zombie" mythos Romero created Night of the Living Dead as a 'spiritual' prequel to "The Omega Man" which was the first version of "I Am Legend".


    Most of us know how I Am Legend (book) ends?
  • edited October 2012
    Going alone is the most illogical decision IMO.

    At least someone is going to shoot Lee of he is about to turn. If saving Clem is #1 priority then you must have someone watching Lee too.

    I killed Larry because I believed he would turn. I convinced Kenny to stop the train because I was sure Duck had zero chance. If I have to be consistent with my logic then I must have someone watching lee.
  • edited October 2012
    I dropped Ben, here I my logic 2.0

    Ok, so the OP sums it up, but even if I didn't drop Ben....

    Christa has to look over Omid
    Omid is still hurt
    Kenny is fixing up the boat
    It started with Lee alone, only to find Clem, and that will happen at the ending, me & clem
  • edited October 2012
    I didn't go alone. Ben, Omid, and Christa came with me.
  • edited October 2012
    Sure, going it alone is risky. But what happens when Kenny decides to bash Lee's head in because "he might turn any second?" What happens when Ben does something incompetent to get everyone swarmed by walkers again? What happens when Christa and Omid decide to bail because they were never really interested in being part of a group anyway? Can you guys honestly say that bringing these guys along is without risk?

    Thing is, out of character, I'm pretty sure my Lee will somehow be punished for going alone to send a nice message about how people need to stick together. But looking at it from Lee's perspective, I can't really consider any of the people who are left to be his friends. Haven't trusted Kenny since the end of Episode 2. I stuck up for Ben even up until the release of Episode 4, but after seeing him put Clem in danger through negligence or incompetence at least three different times in this episode, I had to admit, "This kid really is useless." Christa and Omid are okay, I guess. I'm not as wary of them as I was when we met in Episode 3, but I'm still not sure we're exactly friends. And they've made it pretty clear that they don't like being part of a larger group anyway. The people I'd actually want to take with me on a mission like this--Carley, Glenn, Mark, Molly--are all either dead or have moved on.
  • edited October 2012
    Thadeum wrote: »
    You know how this is gonna end.

    He is bitten man...

    His life has only one way to end, or to never end. No other solution.

    And, there is only 5 places on the boat.

    I don't see your point with the 5 places. Lee, Omid, Christa, Clementine and Kenny, if all of them survived (no, I don't think they will). Ben isn't getting on that boat, even if you save him I'm sure Kenny won't let it happen.
  • edited October 2012
    tried to go alone the group inssisted to come. oh god this is going to end terrible
  • edited October 2012
    After I got bit, I hid it from the group so I just wanted to do the whole Capt. Oates' "I am just going outside and may be some time." thing. Lee's a dead man walking now, may as well do something worthwhile with my last few hours..
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