What Are Your Early Guesses to how Season 1 will end?

edited October 2012 in The Walking Dead
MAY BE SPOLIERS


Ok firstly, bravo tt- episode 4 brilliant cant say one negative thing about it (except Lee should be able to walk faster/ run haha) but what do you guys want OR think will happen to conclude the season ?

My personal opinion : telltale will be HEARTLESS people and it will end extremely sadly. Lee is gone, just like Duck he may have 3-4 hours left in him and I say my group (everyone except kenny) will all die as well unfortunately. I think Clem will be safe SOME way. I know its sick but I cant be the only one to think of this...but I think Clem might have to kill Lee. Im sure there will be a heart breaking good bye and then... but I guess we'll see. Hard for tt to make it without plot-holing it where lee and clem end up fine.

What do you think?
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  • edited October 2012
    this is not a spoilers thread you should probably take those out quickly.
  • edited October 2012
    I have thought from the moment Lee met Clem that she will ultimately have to kill him, and he'll have to accept it. I realized this as soon as they introduced the first "survivor" character as a little girl. It makes the most sense, and it's the only rational way to end a game about zombies that the creators are forbidden from having a "cure" for since the author is still writing the comic.

    Put simply, there is no other way for this game to "end" than to have Clementine end Lee's life using the same justifications that Lee made throughout the game to her. That's why I'm pretty confident this'll end up being one of the best games of the year, honestly. I hope it revives the adventure game genre, too.
  • edited October 2012
    Episode 5: Lee becomes a Zombie and gets shot or Asks Kenny to end his life before he changes. My guess is Lee dies and Clem becomes the main protagonist for Season 2 but as a Teenager. Kenny dies Season 2 Episode 1. Clem starts exploring trying to find a cure. its a guess but it could happen if TellTale Games sees my guess
  • edited October 2012
    ITIATT wrote: »
    this is not a spoilers thread you should probably take those out quickly.

    You contradicted yourself there. I dont think it contains any indepth spoilers. I mean hypothetically you can say any thread contains spoilers...
  • edited October 2012
    Episode 5: Lee becomes a Zombie and gets shot or Asks Kenny to end his life before he changes. My guess is Lee dies and Clem becomes the main protagonist for Season 2 but as a Teenager. Kenny dies Season 2 Episode 1. Clem starts exploring trying to find a cure. its a guess but it could happen if TellTale Games sees my guess

    I dont think Clem will become the main charatcer in season 2 I think it will be a different storyline completely. So people who didnt play season 1 can play and still get it. I wouldnt be surprised if some characters in season 1 carry over but they will all be non-major characters
  • edited October 2012
    I am probably the only one who does not want a season 2 I feel that it would ruin the story and will not be as good as season 1. I think season one should and probably will end with Lee dying and im fine with that I never understood why people want games to end always with a happily ever after ending. I am going to tell you right now what i have learned in The Walking Dead is that there is no happily ever after.
  • edited October 2012
    It's definitely going to end with Clem shooting Lee.

    I can picture it out:
    Lee's going to be near death, and you start to view from his eyes (first person). Everything becomes hazy as his life is slipping away, and you catch a glimps of Clem standing above you with a gun pointed right between your eyes, and she's weeping. Then bam, gunshot, black screen, credits roll.
  • edited October 2012
    I only know one thing.

    Lee was bitten, Kenny has better things to do than to join... there is no need, or time, to care anymore. My Lee will make happen, what is possible, by any means necessary!
  • edited October 2012
    Lee dies, probably shot by Clem. Clem's mum will not be found alive, that is too close to a happy ending for TWD. I hope that they wrap up that loose end, though. There will be several new characters, and one of them will be Clem's new protector. At this point it's too tough to call IMO if any of the major characters continue on to season 2, but my money is on Christa.
  • edited October 2012
    At this point, my only bet is that Clem survives, Lee might die, and I have no utter idea about the rest of the group. Just like Carley, TTG let me down on Molly.

    Then again, I honestly felt that Molly was introduced shortly after Chuck's death just to fill in the role of a street smart character, which Chuck had previously held, but right after that, would just leave. She might or might not reappear in Ep 5.

    In regards to Season 2, it might sound crazy, but I think Molly will be made as the protagonist for the new season, if TTG considers the entire fanbase's request for a female protagonist. Honestly, she's the only one whose personality matches up to Lee, only a bit more fiery and headstrong.

    Alternatively, TTG could just start off with someone from a different state in the States, like a protagonist from Brooklyn or something, so that might mean that all events are actually happening simultaneously on a different location.
  • edited October 2012
    Molly? No way. She's way too Lana Croft-ian to be a protagonist.

    I'd like to see a Native American woman as the protagonist.
  • edited October 2012
    I see no one thought about it yet so I think I'll share :

    Since TWD is merciless I think Lee with his last strengths will find Clementine dead which would be devastating for us since no one can even imagine this view. Why? Becouse everyone feel so much attached to Clementine character (atleast I am). With tears falling on his cheeks and no hope he will die and turn to zombie.
  • edited October 2012
    What's going to happen: Clem shoots Lee in the head. Ta-da! End of season.

    What I want to happen: Lee survives his bite. Clem, Lee, and Kenny get on the boat and begin to go offshore. End of season.
  • edited October 2012
    The trend I am seeing a lot on these forums is that characters will keep making appearances in episode 5 like lilly and now molly...THERE NOT! They make them leave the story plot for a reason (so they dont have to develope them anymore) Vernon will obviously be back but when a player says they are leaving THERE GONE.

    telltale has kept it realistic so far with respect to a world being in a zombie apocalypse, they wont do anything stupid now
  • edited October 2012
    Zeruis wrote: »
    What's going to happen: Clem shoots Lee in the head. Ta-da! End of season.

    What I want to happen: Lee survives his bite. Clem, Lee, and Kenny get on the boat and begin to go offshore. End of season.

    i hope lee survives the bite because the end will be like you said and all people will know before playing it...
  • edited October 2012
    Lee is bitten=Vernon needed (He might want to get on the boat if he helps)
    The city is overrun=Boat needed (Kenny has to help)
    Boat's capacity=5 (Not everyone can come)
    Getting on=Kenny (operator), Lee (if hand taken care of), Clementine, Christa, Omid/Vernon, Molly
    Not getting on=Ben (because Kenny won't take him or he is dead)
    Most probable deaths=Molly (She could try to steal the boat), Lee (Bite), Vernon (Old), Omid (Leg), Christa (Omid's death)
  • edited October 2012
    All of you think to linear. There is no reason to make your decisions matter little in Episode fives story, in the end, it ends... there can be multiple endings, based on how you act in Episode 5 but also based on everything you said and did before. They wrote all of this without a Second Season in Mind and they said they changed nothing about their planed story. Everything is fair game.

    The final scene of episode for is hinting at that by having... six? possible constellations you enter Episode five with. (i also think that this might cause some heavy head rolling if you got a big group)

    I am thinking a bit of a Mass Effect 2 ending, just less random. Maybe you´ll chew Clems face of if you screw everything up.


    It´s strongly implied that Christa carries a Baby. I wonder what will come of that, or if it just stays a little something for the aware player.
  • edited October 2012
    Finnisher wrote: »
    Most probable deaths=Vernon (Old)

    Now that made me laugh.
  • edited October 2012
    Kenny leaves with the boat (with or without Ben depending on if you let him die or not)
    Christa/Omid take over looking after Clem and are left as possible protaganists for Season 2.

    As for Lee, I think we will have a choice as to how we go out. Wander off/get someone to shoot us/shoot ourselves.

    Lock it in. xD
  • edited October 2012
    The most probable ending is that Clementine shoots Lee. Which means that it's most likely not going to be the case. TellTale are smart enough to realize that with the Ep4 cliffhanger everybody will be thinking like that, ergo - no surprise.

    But they will also not end with Lee surviving, as it's what everybody here wishes for - Lee to survive. That's why he won't.

    So, in the end, after we exclude the most probable and the most wished for possibilities... I have no clue how the series will end. And honestly, don't want to guess. Want TellTale to surprise me :)
  • edited October 2012
    Farlander wrote: »
    The most probable ending is that Clementine shoots Lee. Which means that it's most likely not going to be the case. TellTale are smart enough to realize that with the Ep4 cliffhanger everybody will be thinking like that, ergo - no surprise.

    But they will also not end with Lee surviving, as it's what everybody here wishes for - Lee to survive. That's why he won't.

    So, in the end, after we exclude the most probable and the most wished for possibilities... I have no clue how the series will end. And honestly, don't want to guess. Want TellTale to surprise me :)

    Anything else then either Lee surviving or getting shoot by Clem will just be ridiculous, and will once more prove that game engineers nowadays are not capable of developing a decent and appealing story/story ending.

    Clem will shoot Lee!

    Or maybe this Gangnam guy will close the scene, with his stupid dance.
  • edited October 2012
    How about this...

    Those that went with Lee are all dead. Lee finds Clem but the story gets to a point where Lee is now turning before he can get Clem to safety. Clem would now be alone, she didn't find her parents, and after everything Lee has done for her she doesn't have the heart to kill him.....





    Clem shoots herself and everyone playing is stunned (the game automatically selected 'jaw drops' for you).
  • edited October 2012
    Skill2Envy wrote: »
    How about this...

    Those that went with Lee are all dead. Lee finds Clem but the story gets to a point where Lee is now turning before he can get Clem to safety. Clem would now be alone, she didn't find her parents, and after everything Lee has done for her she doesn't have the heart to kill him.....





    Clem shoots herself and everyone playing is stunned (the game automatically selected 'jaw drops' for you).

    Just reading that gave me chills but lets be honest: there is a negative chance that will happen. Im trying to think of the craziest but still plausible way this game ends and I cant really seem to find one. I think maybe Kenny will kill Lee (whether or not he came with you) but I think Clementine is someway involved in the conclusion (not that shes safe and everyones happy).
  • edited October 2012
    Lee will live.
    LEE WILL FUCKING LIVE.

    -desperate cry-
  • edited October 2012
    I hope Lee lives. Although I know he'll likely die, due to the fact that the bite is 100% fatal.

    I'd say one of two things happen.

    1) Lee gives up his spot on the boat for someone else, and it ends with the camera zooming out on Lee, and we see the boat driving into the sunset and Lee just standing on the dock

    or

    2) Lee somehow survives(wasn't a zombie bite, is immune, etc.) and leaves the group anyway to continue on for season 2.
  • edited October 2012
    Ep 4 had a lot of foreshadowing IMO. This situation is the closest thing to hopeless imaginable. Molly even says "The Dead always win" when she meets Lee & Kenny. Even throughout the season, we have seen people attempt various degrees of survival tactics - The St. John's and their "by any means necessary", Crawford and its "fittest only need apply", even the group and the hotel - and every time, we've found dissention within that ultimately destroys the survivors. It seems the only person w/ a chance surviving is Molly, who's going it alone. Lee has taught Clem many survival skills, and I think we're going to be left w/ Clem going it alone, her fate unknown. Unless Molly takes her in and trains her somehow, but Clem would slow her down. Either way, the total number of survivors from all of this are either 1 or 0. I'd put Clem's survival odds at 50/50.
  • edited October 2012
    1 or 0? Interesting, but I don't think episode 5 will be quite the bloodbath everyone is expecting. Lets see, we've got:

    Lee
    Clem
    Kenny
    Ben
    Molly
    Christa
    Omid
    Vernon
    Clive
    Boyd
    Ammy

    It's safe to say that Vernon's three friends will die, probably even off screen. I don't think they've had one line between them yet. Omid and Christa aren't major characters, but I could see them having some kind of storyline in the 2nd season. They may not die, but they certainly won't be on the boat. That just leaves Molly or Ben. Molly might die a Chuck styled death. Stay behind as a decoy/distraction.

    If Kenny dies, everyone is fucked because I'm pretty sure none of them know how to drive a boat.
  • edited October 2012
    Either lee or clementine will die. If clementine dies it would break my heart though.
  • edited October 2012
    Unlike most, I feel that Lee will survive his bite. They picked up medical supplies and there is a doctor involved now. Unlike with Duck, Lee will get some antibiotics and medical care in exchange for Clem. Remember the doctors last words.
  • edited October 2012
    Given what I know now, I think we're all missing one crucial piece of information in order to have ANY idea what might happen (aside from Lee's inevitable death due to his bite): What's up with the guy on the radio?

    Another bit of info that would be nice to have is what the hell happened to Vernon's people? Why did they leave their super secure morgue sanctuary?

    If I was to write the ending to this season, it would go like this:

    Zombies chase everyone as they head towards the boat. Lee splits up to go after Clem and everyone else goes to the boat to get it ready. Omid can't keep up and falls behind, Christa stays with him and we don't see them again this season/know their fate. Vernon and his group all die. Kenny and Ben get the boat working and get it in the water. Lee rescues Clem and gets her to the boat. They talk about Lee's bite and while Lee is arguing with Kenny and Ben, he turns. He bites Clem before Kenny shoots him in the face. Kenny looks miserable for a second and then shoots Clem in the forehead and then shrugs and shoots Ben too. Kenny boats off into the sunset and is the only character that we know for sure carries over into season 2. I doubt anyone would forget an ending like that. You guys thought Clem killing Lee was likely and I agree, but I think it would be way more awesome if Lee killed Clem and then Kenny just went bonkers and took everyone else out (Ben purely for revenge reasons).
  • edited October 2012
    Lee will live.
    LEE WILL FUCKING LIVE.

    -desperate cry-

    Um, does becoming a walker count as living?

    I've been grooming my group to do mercy killings on any zombification candidates though, so my lee's in no danger of that ~_~;
  • edited October 2012
    Kind of figured that once they introduced the idea of Chuck telling Lee to teach Clem how to survive if Lee isn't around, that Clem will indeed end up needing to use those skills on Lee. I love the character of Lee Everett but have expected Lee to eventually die since first playing as him in Episode 1.
  • edited October 2012
    Either lee and clementine will both survive (which I hope will happen), or lee or clementine will die (I hope they both survive).
  • edited October 2012
    As I've read this i realized that no one is getting on the boat. At the end of ep 4 your able to choose who stays with you, even Kenny. So without kenny, no one is getting on the boat. Even if kenny stays with you theres no boat in your future because TT is too lazy to create two story arcs (my dearest Carley) not including the fact that there is a huge horde of zombies that just moved into Savannah because of the noise from the train.

    Also, who is the....woman?.... that you see when your heading to the auto shop the first go round in ep4? You see a shadow flash across the screen that could be michone but i dont like that character anyway. I think season one will end like this:

    I think the people in the house (including the child now) are dead and have nothing to do with the rest of the season. The person who took Clem was obviously the one on the walkie talkie the whole time because of the conversation at the end. It does suck that lee gets bit but i think the final episode will play out like this. You (and whoever you have with you) will spend the rest of the game searching for Clem while having the characters with you dying off one by one in the process. Because let's face it, the characters we choose to live just end up getting killed off anyway cuz its easier for TT (my dearest Carley). Lee will start to feel worse as time goes by but at the end finds Clem but she's in danger and you spend your final moments battling zombies and giving her time to escape. I think it would be cool if Lee turns at the end with a cut scene and you get to play Clem only for a few seconds so you can make her shoot lee in the head.

    On my evil Lee im all by myself so it should be interesting to see how that plays out. :D
    Oh and i dont think you'll be able to play as Clem for season 2 because a huge part of the story was how do you survive in this world while protecting this child that needs you and learns from you
  • edited October 2012
    Lee will still be the protagonist in season 2 in my opinion.

    No, I don't think Clem at all will kill Lee. I think there will be a twist in which at the end you are at the docks and you were able to get the boat there and it's running because of Kenny, and your life is slowly giving away to death. Clem will be kneeling right besides Lee who is on the verge of dying when Kenny comes up and gives you a gun and says that you have to stay behind (and in those words, meaning, you have to kill yourself, but do it when we are out of the clearing and you can no longer see us.)

    Lee has very little time to spare and says a heart breaking goodbye to Clem as you see her go off into the distance in the boat with the others. Lee's strength is starting to fade away and he tries lifting the gun to his head, but his eyes close and he blacks out, but the gun clatters and lets out a shot which alerts anything nearby.

    Suddenly, his eyes open again on a medical table where a doctor (possibly Vernon) or maybe just an entirely new doctor, but either way his eyes open and he realizes he's on a medical slab. And the doctor looks at him and says, "Don't worry you'll be okay." and then the credits roll.

    As for season 2 I believe that the story will be about surviving but in an entirely new group with the same Lee there. But Clemmy won't be there and maybe, possibly, there will be another plot in which Lee looks for Clem, but that is highly unlikely. Maybe they will make it so that Lee meets up with Clem at the end of season 2.
  • edited October 2012
    I think that since this is a "movie-game" like Heavy Rain, there will be multiple endings.

    One where if you do great, you will find Clementine, get to say goodbye, and then watch her leave on the boat with the remaining group.

    One where you do somewhat good, find Clementine, but die before you can say goodbye, and Clem has to put Lee down as a walker.

    One where you do terribly, and just... everyone dies.

    I don't really know; I just hope the ending isn't too sad.
  • edited October 2012
    Also, who is the....woman?.... that you see when your heading to the auto shop the first go round in ep4? You see a shadow flash across the screen that could be michone but i dont like that character anyway.

    Everyone seems confused with this. It was kind of obvious it was Molly who was the woman. I saw the pack and her pick clearly, so whoever thinks this is some new character, or the guy who talked to you on the radio, I think you were just thinking way too hard on it.

    Guys, they made it look in which Molly went missing and they most likely did that for a little mystery, like a Where's Molly? little tidbit. They did that so Molly can seem more mysterious than before when she showed up, killing the doctor zombie brutally. So, yes it was just Molly, no need for hard thinking on whoever that was.
  • edited October 2012
    If Lee survives they should change the name of the story to "The walking love" and in season 2 the zombies should die if you drop flowers on them. It would absoulutely destroy the meaining of a zombie-apocalypse in the walking dead universe if Lee survives. Yes his surviving would be unexpected but in a happy ending way. That's why it won't and shouldn't happen..

    Anyway, I have no ideas who else will survive. I really hope that there are different endings, depending on your choices. Well, I think that there will be a kind of open ending for some characters.
  • edited October 2012
    Knowing telltale, it isnt going to be Clem shooting Lee, it's got to be something far more sinister at this point.

    Murphys law ending: Lee dies along with the others barring Kenny, who goes out on the boat to kill himself, and Clem becomes the govenor's zombie girlfriend in the comics, but they'd need to think of something to make that last bit fit with the comic's canon.

    just about everything else looks like the end of dawn of the dead, Lee stands and watches the others float away
  • edited October 2012
    I have been following the development of this game since about a month before ep 1 came out, I have a theory on how the writing is being done that may shed some light on what is going to happen to Lee, or I may be completely off.

    I am pretty sure Telltale is writing this as they go. I have heard in interviews that the ending was one of the first things they came up with, and they have also noted that they are able to use the data from all of your dialogue choices in deciding what is going to happen in future episodes, that meaning that until the game is out there will most likely be changes to the storyline.

    Also it is important to note that they did not say there was going to be a sequel until after they released episode 2. Originally they were saying nothing was planned, then due to the overwhelming success of the initial episodes it was confirmed there would be more games.

    If Lee dies at the end of episode 5 then Season 2 will probably have either an entirely new group, or you play as Clem, maybe after a timelapse. This is probably how Telltale sees it, I mean you can't really let us play as Kenny or Ben because a lot of people don't like them.

    The other option is that Lee doesn't die and continues into season 2.

    So there is my circumstantial evidence, now this is my theory: I think originally Lee was supposed to die and Clem was supposed to live and the story was supposed to end. This was before any serious talk of a season 2. Now I think they are starting to see that they might need Lee to live to maintain this player base. I mean if you take out the main protagonist in such an emotional saga, it's a big risk to assume your audience is going to jump on board an entirely new emotional investment. I don't think they have decided (or at least not by the time ep 4 came out) whether or not Lee would die. I think they want him to because that was the original idea for the narrative, but now they are considering that they may paint themselves into a corner by killing him.

    My main reason for believing this is because he was
    bit on the hand.
    Everyone who reads walking dead knows you can survive
    a bite on a limb as long as you can cut it off before the infection spreads. Lee has wasted a lot of time by not removing the hand already and some would argue it's too late, but why on earth would TT have him bit on the hand if this wasn't at least an option, he could have been bit on the chest or neck stopping any possibility or removing the infection.

    They probably still don't know exactly how they are going to wrap things up but I'm thinking Lee probably going to be just like
    Rick, one handed.

    That's my theory let me know what you think.
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