Wow. After I saw dubesor's post, my observation is way off.
After i watched episode 4 walkthrough, i thought the creepy guy is the one below:
Reason why I said is him because he was quiet and on alone screen for over 3 seconds like the pic below. I had this gut feeling that he is involved.
My money's on Oberson. Why else would they drop his name so much/ let the players see pictures of him at the school. I'm sure he has his own twisted agenda for messing with Lee and Clem. Also maybe Oberson is the guy who owns the house you stay in too. Whos to say theyre different people? And after the fall of Crawford, he returns home to find Lee outside his house burying his son.
I think it has to be someone from Lee's past, maybe the son or a relative of the man he killed. He is using Clem to get to him, and wants to cause him as much pain as possible before he kills him. It doesn't say how long Clem has been talking to him on her walkie-talkie but it was long before they got to Savanah. I don't know the range of it but it could hardly be the hundred miles or more they traveled to get there. So that would mean he has been following them for awhile, found out from Clementine where they were headed, and why, and decided thats where he'd make his move. This scenario would obviously rule out Oberson as many have claimed to believe it to be, since there is no past history between him and Lee. From what the kidnapper says to Lee on the walkie-talkie at the end of episode 4 its obvious that Lee's his target and Clementine is his way to get to him.
I think the mystery man in Ep. 4 is not the walkie talkie man.
Indeed, if it were him, and if he wanted to hurt Lee, he could have done it 10 times while he was burrying the kid.
So, the mystery man is not the walkie man. It's probably someone who will help you later, or does not want to get involved.
Also, something you should consider, is WHY would the walkie man warn the survivors and tell them to run out of the street after the first bell rang? To kill Lee by his own hands? Sounds unprobable.
If he hated Lee that bad, he would have taken pleasure to watch him die in the streets.
I think the mystery man in Ep. 4 is not the walkie talkie man.
Indeed, if it were him, and if he wanted to hurt Lee, he could have done it 10 times while he was burrying the kid.
So, the mystery man is not the walkie man. It's probably someone who will help you later, or does not want to get involved.
Also, something you should consider, is WHY would the walkie man warn the survivors and tell them to run out of the street after the first bell rang? To kill Lee by his own hands? Sounds unprobable.
If he hated Lee that bad, he would have taken pleasure to watch him die in the streets.
I don't think it would sound so improbable. If someone were to kill my father or someone just as close to me, I would find it extremely more satisfying in causing that person the same pain I perceived they caused me and then killing them by my own hands instead of it being caused by someone else ringing the zombie dinner bell. Killing Lee while he was burying the boy would have been to quick and easy a death. In such a person's mind he would want to cause Lee the same pain or more that they perceived he caused them, and that would be why he kidnapped the one person Lee loved most. But at this point in time its all theories and conjecture, we'll only know for sure what happens at the conclusion of episode 5.
I find that whole mystery walking talkie stuff lame.
During a Zombie apocalypse even psychopaths should have other things to do rather than to stalk little girls and to play such games.
This better be really meaningful, because you could see it as a sign that they are running out of ideas if Zombies aren't threat enough. Next thing is that they bring in aliens.
But yeah, it's either that leader you get to see at the school or the weird black guy at the morgue.
I find that whole mystery walking talkie stuff lame.
During a Zombie apocalypse even psychopaths should have other things to do rather than to stalk little girls and to play such games.
This better be really meaningful, because you could see it as a sign that they are running out of ideas if Zombies aren't threat enough. Next thing is that they bring in aliens.
But yeah, it's either that leader you get to see at the school or the weird black guy at the morgue.
You assume that psychopaths do have rational thinking and are not controlled by their emotions or patological needs.
Usually, in difficult situations, people like this go "full psycho", instead of calming down.
For someone to hold this much contempt for Lee it has to be someone from his past. It's either the son, brother, uncle, brother-in-law, cousin etc. etc. of the man Lee murdered when he was headed to jail. There is no one else it can be.
I think it has to be someone from Lee's past, maybe the son or a relative of the man he killed. He is using Clem to get to him, and wants to cause him as much pain as possible before he kills him. It doesn't say how long Clem has been talking to him on her walkie-talkie but it was long before they got to Savanah. I don't know the range of it but it could hardly be the hundred miles or more they traveled to get there. So that would mean he has been following them for awhile, found out from Clementine where they were headed, and why, and decided thats where he'd make his move. This scenario would obviously rule out Oberson as many have claimed to believe it to be, since there is no past history between him and Lee. From what the kidnapper says to Lee on the walkie-talkie at the end of episode 4 its obvious that Lee's his target and Clementine is his way to get to him.
Basically summed up my thoughts perfectly. This is wayyyy too personal to be some random guy and its been going on far too long to be Oberson.
On the very small chance that it is Oberson, maybe he's trying to blackmail the group into giving him the boat? I imagine Clem talks about Lee (and his choices) far more than anyone else, which could give Oberson the idea that Lee is the leader. Lee would definately give up the boat in exchange for Clementine's safety. That being said, I am of the group that thinks Oberson was the guy swinging from the bell that grabbed Ben.
I could imagine that this guy might have been a former accomplice of Oberson (he defiantly had to have had some right hand people to keep control), got fed up with his authority, and exploited the outbreak to kill him and take charge. He formed a group that was loyal to him, took anything of value, and left the area, leaving everyone else to die. Whatever he's planning, I think he requires something from Lee and his group and is using Clementine as a bargaining chip.
Perhaps he's trying to rebuild Crawford with himself as the leader. I don't believe it's as simple as this guy wanting revenge on Lee, it seems much more sinister. I'm also wondering where all those zombies are going; something is attracting them. Can't be the train anymore because it's stopped so something else is luring them all there since they are attracted to sound. Clem's parents probably factor into all this as well.
just cause the guy knows lee doesnt add much, there are multiple factors. lee's murder case was reported on news afterall. could be some redneck sicko,Could be someone connected with his past(wife,senator,university),could be even related to ep.2
I'm still going on the idea that the walkie-talkie guy is Oberlin, or the leader of Crawford. It'd be a good way for the story to move forward rather than introduce a completely new character (in the final episode?).
Totally that can't be the last we see of the cancer group. Their disappearance seemed a little sketchy.
During the escape at the bell tower Lee tells Vern that they came by rail so maybe Vern went to GTA the train from them.
I thought mystery man might be crawford leader minus the beard as maybe he now thinks he needs all the kids he can find for his "cough" perfect society as the last one he tried fell apart.
I thought mystery man might be crawford leader minus the beard as maybe he now thinks he needs all the kids he can find for his "cough" perfect society as the last one he tried fell apart.
It's not. The Crawford leader is the guys seen hanging from the bell. The one that grabs Ben. Several sources back this up.
Who would hold that kind of grudge with the entire world gone to shit? I imagine they'd have more important things to deal with, like actually trying to survive.
I'd rather believe it's just some opportunistic creep.
What if stealing from the I Am Alive game idea, the boy you kill in the house's Dad finally makes it back to Savanna after a lot of hardship only to see lee burying his son, even worse what if you make Lee say the "Come back here and I'll kill you" line - Yeah that one always goes down well.
What if stealing from the I Am Alive game idea, the boy you kill in the house's Dad finally makes it back to Savanna after a lot of hardship only to see lee burying his son, even worse what if you make Lee say the "Come back here and I'll kill you" line - Yeah that one always goes down well.
Except your theory is flawed due to episode 3. No one knew the boy then.
I honestly have no idea who the mysterious man (TMM) could be, everything just seems to be too unlikely.
The most prominent idea would be the "Person from Lee's past followed the group all the way from the Beginning" theory, right?
But how did he find him in the first place? TMM would need to have already followed Lee when the world was still normal with Lee on his way to prison and ignore all the zombie madness afterwards to be able to connect him to Clem, he then needed to know about the Walkie Talkie and the fact that it still works, then find another one for himself, the correct frequency and one hell of a fighting spirit, ammo, food and a vehicle for a decent time span (including the 3 months idle at the motor inn), so he could follow Lee from Macon to Savannah and still be multiple steps ahead.
If we assume that TMM is the dead senator's brother or some other relative who wants some kind of vendetta, then this guy must be about 10 times as tough as the TV series' Daryl and yet he still doesn't take the chance to kill Lee albeit having countless chances to do so.
It just doesn't add up and I'm kind of afraid that TMM will turn out to be a nonsensical MacGuffin that totally ruins the story. I hope I'm wrong.
The mystery man, the guy watching you at the burial, officially named Campman, as his name indicates, is someone from a camp of survivors.
He is probably not related to the walkie talkie, as TTG wants you to think he is hostile, and set up a scene for that. What really happened is that he was affraid of you, and ran away when you saw him.
Did anyone notice someone creeping behind you in the school? I forget which part it was, it was after Molly ditched Lee with the battery I think. It was a quick shadow moving across the screen.
Did anyone notice someone creeping behind you in the school? I forget which part it was, it was after Molly ditched Lee with the battery I think. It was a quick shadow moving across the screen.
I dont think this guy knows lee at all i think he just wants clementine. He some how got his hand on glenn's walkie talkie. However i think this guy just want clementine maybe hes got some fetish for little kids. He proboly has been talking to clem for a while he has no personal vendetta on lee
I think the mystery man is actually a future version of duck from an alternate timeline in which he was never bitten. He holds a grudge against lee because in his timeline Lee causes the death of Kenny. To prevent this, Duck travelled back in time and joined the bandits, planning to kill Lee during the attack in episode 3. However the plan went wrong and he inadvertently caused his younger self to be bitten(creating the split in the timelines). Now he has followed Lee and the group to Savannah and is still planning to kill Lee by luring him in with Clementine.
I dont think this guy knows lee at all i think he just wants clementine. He some how got his hand on glenn's walkie talkie. However i think this guy just want clementine maybe hes got some fetish for little kids. He proboly has been talking to clem for a while he has no personal vendetta on lee
My friend, Glenn didn't lose his walkie, clems father had a walkie for sure.
I didn't. Brenda (his wife) got herself killed, but I haven't killed Danny or Andrew.
But in the end they were all killed and became zombies. So to the casual onlooker, it looks like Lee (or at least his group) killed them all.
Although it does make me wonder... did the group leave any identifiable items there? How could someone know it was them that did it? Okay, the theory isn't exactly water-tight.
My friend, Glenn didn't lose his walkie, clems father had a walkie for sure.
Well he's dead so why does it matter and im pretty sure theres only two because clem said that glenn had the only other walkie talkie in episode one at the end.
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After i watched episode 4 walkthrough, i thought the creepy guy is the one below:
Reason why I said is him because he was quiet and on alone screen for over 3 seconds like the pic below. I had this gut feeling that he is involved.
Indeed, if it were him, and if he wanted to hurt Lee, he could have done it 10 times while he was burrying the kid.
So, the mystery man is not the walkie man. It's probably someone who will help you later, or does not want to get involved.
Also, something you should consider, is WHY would the walkie man warn the survivors and tell them to run out of the street after the first bell rang? To kill Lee by his own hands? Sounds unprobable.
If he hated Lee that bad, he would have taken pleasure to watch him die in the streets.
During a Zombie apocalypse even psychopaths should have other things to do rather than to stalk little girls and to play such games.
This better be really meaningful, because you could see it as a sign that they are running out of ideas if Zombies aren't threat enough. Next thing is that they bring in aliens.
But yeah, it's either that leader you get to see at the school or the weird black guy at the morgue.
You assume that psychopaths do have rational thinking and are not controlled by their emotions or patological needs.
Usually, in difficult situations, people like this go "full psycho", instead of calming down.
Basically summed up my thoughts perfectly. This is wayyyy too personal to be some random guy and its been going on far too long to be Oberson.
Perhaps he's trying to rebuild Crawford with himself as the leader. I don't believe it's as simple as this guy wanting revenge on Lee, it seems much more sinister. I'm also wondering where all those zombies are going; something is attracting them. Can't be the train anymore because it's stopped so something else is luring them all there since they are attracted to sound. Clem's parents probably factor into all this as well.
Proofs have been developed here: http://www.telltalegames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36091
DO NOT CLICK THAT LINK IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO BE SERIOUSLY SPOILED ON EP5.
I think they joined the **** of ****man (in the link above, but if you do not want to be spoiled, then do not click xD)
During the escape at the bell tower Lee tells Vern that they came by rail so maybe Vern went to GTA the train from them.
I thought mystery man might be crawford leader minus the beard as maybe he now thinks he needs all the kids he can find for his "cough" perfect society as the last one he tried fell apart.
It's not. The Crawford leader is the guys seen hanging from the bell. The one that grabs Ben. Several sources back this up.
Oh ok then ? to the op's question, Ep 5 just got a lot more interesting:D
Who would hold that kind of grudge with the entire world gone to shit? I imagine they'd have more important things to deal with, like actually trying to survive.
I'd rather believe it's just some opportunistic creep.
Except your theory is flawed due to episode 3. No one knew the boy then.
The most prominent idea would be the "Person from Lee's past followed the group all the way from the Beginning" theory, right?
But how did he find him in the first place? TMM would need to have already followed Lee when the world was still normal with Lee on his way to prison and ignore all the zombie madness afterwards to be able to connect him to Clem, he then needed to know about the Walkie Talkie and the fact that it still works, then find another one for himself, the correct frequency and one hell of a fighting spirit, ammo, food and a vehicle for a decent time span (including the 3 months idle at the motor inn), so he could follow Lee from Macon to Savannah and still be multiple steps ahead.
If we assume that TMM is the dead senator's brother or some other relative who wants some kind of vendetta, then this guy must be about 10 times as tough as the TV series' Daryl and yet he still doesn't take the chance to kill Lee albeit having countless chances to do so.
It just doesn't add up and I'm kind of afraid that TMM will turn out to be a nonsensical MacGuffin that totally ruins the story. I hope I'm wrong.
He is probably not related to the walkie talkie, as TTG wants you to think he is hostile, and set up a scene for that. What really happened is that he was affraid of you, and ran away when you saw him.
It was Molly. Screenshots proved that.
Yea i seen that but i dont think that was him
i think he was dead.
I didn't. Brenda (his wife) got herself killed, but I haven't killed Danny or Andrew.
PS. Yes I am joking
My friend, Glenn didn't lose his walkie, clems father had a walkie for sure.
But in the end they were all killed and became zombies. So to the casual onlooker, it looks like Lee (or at least his group) killed them all.
Although it does make me wonder... did the group leave any identifiable items there? How could someone know it was them that did it? Okay, the theory isn't exactly water-tight.
I would be so goddamn furious that my rage would scorch the surface of the earth until no life remained.
Well he's dead so why does it matter and im pretty sure theres only two because clem said that glenn had the only other walkie talkie in episode one at the end.
i would too