The Road To Woodbury

edited November 2012 in The Walking Dead
Anybody read it yet? I heard Lilly acts like a very different character... and I'm sure most of us have heard by now that the Lilly in this novel has a different backstory.

I'd read it myself, but I can't afford to spend any extra money right now. I need to know if it's really a different Lilly!! :D

Comments

  • edited October 2012
    Sadly Kirkman has decided to ignore and invalidate game Lilly, the book one is a totally differnt character.
  • edited October 2012
    I would agree. If the game is considered comic-cannon then the game Lilly is definitely not the one referenced in the "Road To Woodbury" novel.
  • edited October 2012
    Throwing it on my X-mas list.
  • edited October 2012
    I think someone from TellTale said that this Lilly is now a different person than the character from the comics so they could keep it canon. I'm fine with that, but Kirkman needs to get his shit together imo.
  • edited October 2012
    Damn it. I was originally thought that this Lilly would be from the game. Looks like a completely new character. Kirkman entirely forgot the canon of the game. Which is...good. I don't want him messing around with Telltale's characters.
  • edited October 2012
    Zeruis wrote: »
    Damn it. I was originally thought that this Lilly would be from the game. Looks like a completely new character. Kirkman entirely forgot the canon of the game. Which is...good. I don't want him messing around with Telltale's characters.

    Kirkman's not messing with TellTale's character, TellTale is messing with his.
    Lilly appears in the comic (albeit briefly), and the game was supposed to show the backstory of Lilly, but the book contradicted it.
  • edited October 2012
    ...It's out?
  • edited October 2012
    Well now Lilly can can comeback! lol
  • edited October 2012
    I think someone from TellTale said that this Lilly is now a different person than the character from the comics so they could keep it canon. I'm fine with that, but Kirkman needs to get his shit together imo.

    This is Kirkman's intellectual property. It's TTs job to keep it cannon
  • edited October 2012
    I'm about half way through the book now. It's pretty good so far...

    I think Kirkman screwed TTG over with the whole Lilly thing. The road to woodbury Lilly is not the same as the TTG Lilly. Regardless, opens the door for TTG to bring Lilly back and shows once again that TTG can create very interesting characters for their games.
  • edited October 2012
    Kiel555 wrote: »
    I'm about half way through the book now. It's pretty good so far...

    I think Kirkman screwed TTG over with the whole Lilly thing. The road to woodbury Lilly is not the same as the TTG Lilly. Regardless, opens the door for TTG to bring Lilly back and shows once again that TTG can create very interesting characters for their games.

    Kirkman didn't screw anybody, he probably had the sypnosis before the game was even in the works, people need to understand that TWD is Kirkman's property, TTG are the ones that decided to add Lilly and give her a story and then say, oh yeah she's the one from the comics.

    it's not Kirkman's fault, i don't understand why some people are blaming Kirkman for that...
  • edited October 2012
    mkane24 wrote: »
    This is Kirkman's intellectual property. It's TTs job to keep it cannon

    Well they ran it by Kirkman so he would have had to sign off on it. I think in his haste to milk every cent out of the series while its hot, he neglected to give a shit about the game's story and went ahead with the book. In the end, it falls within his department to keep this stuff in check. But I'm not complaining; if it wasnt for Kirkman whoring the series out, we'd have never gotten this fine game series.:D
  • edited October 2012
    Kirkman didn't screw anybody, he probably had the sypnosis before the game was even in the works, people need to understand that TWD is Kirkman's property, TTG are the ones that decided to add Lilly and give her a story and then say, oh yeah she's the one from the comics.

    it's not Kirkman's fault, i don't understand why some people are blaming Kirkman for that...

    Kirkman signed off on it. They met with him plenty of times. Telltale thought this was cannon to the comics and Lily was the Lily from the comics. He had no problem not answering the question and letting people order the book because they thought Lily was the Lily from the game.
  • edited October 2012
    Kirkman didn't screw anybody, he probably had the sypnosis before the game was even in the works, people need to understand that TWD is Kirkman's property, TTG are the ones that decided to add Lilly and give her a story and then say, oh yeah she's the one from the comics.

    it's not Kirkman's fault, i don't understand why some people are blaming Kirkman for that...

    Do you HONESTLY think TTG can do anything storywise in their game without having Kirkman's approval first?
  • edited October 2012
    DreadMagus wrote: »
    Do you HONESTLY think TTG can do anything storywise in their game without having Kirkman's approval first?

    no i don't, it was never said IN THE GAME that she was the one from the comics, Kirkman never confirmed it either.

    anyways, he's free to do what he wants with his own story, end of the line.
  • edited October 2012
    Yeah, it should have been something like: "bye, I'm stealing the RV. Think I'll head for Woodbury, where I will end up doing something terrible. I will try to make up for it a little, and get my revenge by getting rid of the cause. Toodles."
  • edited October 2012
    Yeah, it should have been something like: "bye, I'm stealing the RV. Think I'll head for Woodbury, where I will end up doing something terrible. I will try to make up for it a little, and get my revenge by getting rid of the cause. Toodles."

    I think TTG realized Kirkman sold them down the rat hole just ahead of the book being released because TTG made some last minute changes to the pictures and names of two of the e3 trophies.

    One was called Woodbury bound and showed Lilly alone driving what looked like Kenny's truck.

    Nice recovery by TTG and again the Lilly they created is a very well done character that they made and are free to bring back to the game if they like.
  • edited October 2012
    no i don't, it was never said IN THE GAME that she was the one from the comics, Kirkman never confirmed it either.

    anyways, he's free to do what he wants with his own story, end of the line.

    In the game?

    What is she supposed to do?

    Break the fourth wall and tell us she'll kill Lori later in the storyline?

    "It's ok, Lee, I'll kill a mother and her baby in the future, so killing Carley is no big thing. Lemme on the RV!!!!"

    end of line? lol - that's cute.
  • edited October 2012
    I read the comics and played the game but didn't know til ep like 2 that everyone thought it was Lori killing Lilly...I never did. Also one thing (not sure but pretty sure) they never say anyone's last name. So they never say Lily Caul. IMO Her being that Lilly would have been dumb. She is relatively unknown except as girl who killed rick's nag! Not like we even heard her last name in the comics for those 2-3 pages she was on. I mean it would be a much much cooler connection to have Kenny become Jesus up on the hill. Long hair/beard and all:p anyways it would feel like too much to have anyone more come back in now...except ninja M***y who is free to return any second;)
  • edited October 2012
    I read the comics and played the game but didn't know til ep like 2 that everyone thought it was Lori killing Lilly...I never did. Also one thing (not sure but pretty sure) they never say anyone's last name. So they never say Lily Caul. IMO Her being that Lilly would have been dumb. She is relatively unknown except as girl who killed rick's nag! Not like we even heard her last name in the comics for those 2-3 pages she was on. I mean it would be a much much cooler connection to have Kenny become Jesus up on the hill. Long hair/beard and all:p anyways it would feel like too much to have anyone more come back in now...except ninja M***y who is free to return any second;)

    It was a big selling point to the game
  • edited October 2012
    trd84 wrote: »
    It was a big selling point to the game

    thats believable but sad. I think Hershell was ok, Glenn never shoulda been there and we should have had the option to take lilly leave her or execution Carley style IMO lol.
  • edited October 2012
    no i don't, it was never said IN THE GAME that she was the one from the comics, Kirkman never confirmed it either.

    anyways, he's free to do what he wants with his own story, end of the line.

    Actually, I believe when Kirkman was asked about the TTG version of Lilly vs. the comic Lily, he said that they could be the same person or not. He in my opinion left it very vague almost hinting that it could be either thing. I am sure he knew that the Lily in the game was nothing like his character in road to woodbury (which yes, I read all in the same afternoon!) he just likes to throw fans off...which he's said repeatedly.
  • edited October 2012
    thats believable but sad. I think Hershell was ok, Glenn never shoulda been there and we should have had the option to take lilly leave her or execution Carley style IMO lol.

    Lilly being in the game as the same character from the comics was one of the few reasons I bought the game. I would have probably still played it eventually, but when I got Episode 1 it was a selling point for me.
  • edited October 2012
    When the game was first announced and I think up to just after the second episode was released the character description for Lilly used to have this line at the end:

    "Fate will one day cause Lilly to play a large part in the life of Rick Grimes"

    Telltale intended Lilly to be the same character as Lilly in the comic. They wouldn't have been able to claim that without permission from Kirkman (it's his franchise).

    I get the impression TT were not aware of this new book until the official announcement. That must have been a bit of a shock to them. Kirkman is entitled to do whatever he wants to his creation, but for the sake of his fanbase he should ensure continuity throughout. If he didn't want comic Lilly to be game Lilly he should have said something.
  • edited October 2012
    does our game lilly even look like comics lily??? i mean its been a while but i recognized glenn and hershell no prob but never even thought it could be lily from the comics and i for sure know lilly/remember her and all. I think having 2 in ep 1 (glenn hershell) was enough. Now season 2 can involve maybe Dale and Tyreese. they would hype me up for the whole second season even if they exited just as happened before in ep 1. Lily is from the game and lily is from the comic...might even get a tv lily and we got a book one, some might be 1 person but easier to think theres just more than 1 lily in the ZA
  • edited November 2012
    They intended her to be comic book Lilly so in this case I just do not care what Kirkman says. The character was created to be comic book Lilly, so she is. I'm soon going to be familiar with his version the character and I will take what I like from both versions and I will form a version of my own :)
  • edited November 2012
    YamiRaziel wrote: »
    They intended her to be comic book Lilly so in this case I just do not care what Kirkman says. The character was created to be comic book Lilly, so she is. I'm soon going to be familiar with his version the character and I will take what I like from both versions and I will form a version of my own :)


    Well, that's gonna be hard to do. Comic book Lily is the same as Road to Woodbury Lily who is clearly very different than game Lily. In addition to the whole father thing, this Lily was never a military anything...she was just a normal person.

    I actually like book Lily more than game Lily.
  • edited November 2012
    I'm currently not taking Road to Woodbury seriously, as it's contradicting the Governor's name also. His name in the comics and television show is Phillip, while in Road to Woodbury, it is Blake.

    The wiki updated his page, taking his later name (Blake) as his real name, even though in the comics it is Phillip. Since it contradicts the comics I'm not taking it as canon, or relatively, anything else in that book.
  • edited November 2012
    Hidan13 wrote: »
    I'm currently not taking Road to Woodbury seriously, as it's contradicting the Governor's name also. His name in the comics and television show is Phillip, while in Road to Woodbury, it is Blake.

    The wiki updated his page, taking his later name (Blake) as his real name, even though in the comics it is Phillip. Since it contradicts the comics I'm not taking it as canon, or relatively, anything else in that book.

    Blake is the Governor's last name. Philip Blake.
    Actually his name is not Phillip, but I can't comment on that if you haven't read Rise of The Governor.
  • edited November 2012
    MaKTaiL wrote: »
    Blake is the Governor's last name. Philip Blake.
    Actually his name is not Phillip, but I can't comment on that if you haven't read Rise of The Governor.

    Exactly. I almost choked when I read that post. :D
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