The unofficial fate of Ben poll.
So, here we are.. Everyone who said Pre-Ep4 that they wanted the option to kill Ben because of all the crap that happened previously.
Did you follow through or not?
Me, at first I did because I figured that knowing how these games have gone previously that if I tried to rescue him, something stupid would have happened and he would have fallen to his death anyway. But then as he smashed into the ground at the bottom of the stairwell, crying as the walkers started to eat him...
Well, I was like "damnnn lol that's really f*@king cold..."
So I rewound to see if I could actually save his stupid @ss. To my surprise, yes I could. And I'm glad I did too because when convincing him to come help search for Clementine. I told him that she was basically the reason he's still alive. And as a result he said "By the end of all this, I will make it up to everyone." Then the plotmarker checked at the top left noting that "You gave Ben the chance to prove himself", I wont forget that Telltale.;)
Did you follow through or not?
Me, at first I did because I figured that knowing how these games have gone previously that if I tried to rescue him, something stupid would have happened and he would have fallen to his death anyway. But then as he smashed into the ground at the bottom of the stairwell, crying as the walkers started to eat him...
Well, I was like "damnnn lol that's really f*@king cold..."
So I rewound to see if I could actually save his stupid @ss. To my surprise, yes I could. And I'm glad I did too because when convincing him to come help search for Clementine. I told him that she was basically the reason he's still alive. And as a result he said "By the end of all this, I will make it up to everyone." Then the plotmarker checked at the top left noting that "You gave Ben the chance to prove himself", I wont forget that Telltale.;)
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tbh, that was only the second time I rewound. The first time was when I was trying to get down those stairs to stop Clementine eating the meat. lol my phone went off and it distracted me from the game. Crappy timing but watevs.
Edit: There's now a poll btw.
I'd love to have this! Molly is amazing!
But how would he know?
he wrote episode four
lol may be the cynic in me but I find it hard to believe.
you can look it up
Just did,
@Gary, honestly. Congratulations! I thoroughly enjoyed this episode, did you write it alone or with a team?
Not to mention, confirming or denying a rumor would be a spoiler.
Oh...I let him die. Ever since he admitted to being the traitor I've wanted him dead. No rewind in my game. Ben was a traitor and a continuing threat to the group by means of gross incompetence and cowardice.
He did die a horrible death but no pity for traitors in my game.
I think this is what will happen on my next playthrough, my instinct reaction was to drop him, and only rewound to see if you actually "could" rescue him. When I found out you could. I didn't bother reloading again. But still, my gut reaction was to drop him, so I suppose I should have lived with that.
I got through all of Ep's 1 and 3 without rewinding. So I'm going to stick with 3/5. No matter what dumb choices I make in Ep5.
I do have one complaint though Gary, if you ever read this;
WHY YOU KILL LEE FOR!?
Probably because all the people waiting for Ep4 to kill him were the first to play the episode
Believe me, after finding out Ben COULD have lived it was a bit of a struggle to not rewinf and live with my choices, even if Lee won't be doing much "living" from this point on.
He ALSO then took the axe out of the door and probably then caused the death of Brie. He NEVER looked out for Clementine, and he let Kenny get wasted. He also almost left Clem to her death at the beginning of Ep. 4.
So yes, I dropped him. He was a liability and didn't deserve another chance. I feel bad after his screams, but I'm not going to rewind it. I did what i would've done
And no "Aw, he's only young", Clem has been 10x the help than he has!
phew /rant over
Please note how many members of the gang know that Kenny dropped a salt block on top of somebody's head. Seeing that even Katjaa in the next episode doesn't know what happened unless you told her means no one besides Lee and Clem. And Lee also didn't tell any of the new arrivals.
If the group had been aware that Kenny will kill you the first sign of cardiac arrest (unless you're not related to him), you'd think they let him be the prick he has been so far? Lee has been doing him a huge favor for a long time.
And then for him to then announce to the whole group you killed Ben without giving you a proper response was weird. Let me generalize and go for the two possible Kenny-Lee relationships. In both of these realities this response made no sense.
The first one is where Kenny and Lee are best buds. In that case: Why did Kenny rat him out to the group first change he got, even in front of Clem for crying out loud. As a father I bet he never told Duck what happened, he owes Lee better. Again, he never told anyone he killed Larry so he seems to be aware that telling people things like this is a bad idea.
And the second relationship (like in my game) is were Kenny is a *swear!* and Lee and him should really take up couple counseling. Kenny is a mental wreck, Lee should have been offered to option to call Kenny a liar and insist Ben just slipped out of his hands. Then, Lee's behavior up till that point (his voting behavior in the Ben situation especially) should have been the factor in getting away with it. People could still be suspicious and wary, but I think most would give Lee the benefit of the doubt. This might prove the final breaking point between Kenny and Lee but I would have gladly accepted those circumstances.
That entire scene was nothing but a cop out.
Kenny blurting out that you dropped Ben fits his impulsive nature,he also tells the group about what Lee did with the bitten woman in episode 3, and he did have a grudge against Ben.He was pleased that Ben died, say it out loud and proud Kenny!
I find it a little strange that some players want to kill but only if Clementine doesnt ever know what their Lee is truly like(Clem likes Ben and considers him a friend), what a deceptive relationship.I would imagine that Clementine would feel betrayed if she somehow found out in the future,most secrets tend to come out in the end.
If your Lee is willing to kill or let someone die why not try to justify it?
But Clem had no influence on that choice.
But if you do drop Ben, Kenny calls you out to the group no matter what, calling you a murderer?
Correct.
That's because people are rewinding the episode in order to see how the finale turns out to be, if you bring idiot Ben with you. I bet a lot of them expect him to redeem himself - and I sincerely hope he's going to fuck up huge once again, as usual!
He doesn't call you a murderer, he just says you did what needed to be done.
Kenny wants Ben dead so he's glad Lee dropped him and wants to share the good news with the group!
I'm also pretty sure he hasn't told anyone about letting Shane die.
He also hid the fact someone was on the other end of the walkie talkie.
He seems perfectly able to hide things when it's in his own interest.
Kinda off topic but I watches footage of someone dropping Ben and wow! The scream and then it looked like he broke his legs. Finished with him on the floor unable to move while walkers moved in to eat him alive. How do you Ben killers sleep at night? :P
Lots and lots of pills.
Anyways, I fucked up when I dropped him. After I saw that he only broke his legs, I was all "God what have I done?!" I'll never drop him in any OTHER playthrough, but for some reason I like to live with my choices. Especially this one, the ONLY one so far I'd change if I had the chance.