This really suprised me.
When I completed episode 2 and I was among the small percentage of people who had killed both St. Johns Brothers.... What is wrong with people!! They would have eaten you alive lest they had the chance!!!
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Yeah but they ate part of your group and were going to kill/eat them all but one (Clem wouldn't have been the one as no real meat and Andy said that). If these aren't the people who deserved to die who the hell is. I mean there is no Law and Order to take care of these types and leaving them to their own devices is hardly a plan either. If we saw the zombies eating them then no problem with me but if there is even the chance they live...well then that would be a chance for us to die and fuck that
I killed Danny and I wish Clem hadn't seen it, but killing Andy after that is just pointless. The guy was worse than Kenny when Katjaa killed herself and you had to shoot Duck. Plus, what's one guy against a group of armed people? And I think Danny was done for either way. I'd like to see how they'd release him from that trap... and even if they did, he wouldn't be walking properly again so early. And then there were the bandits, who were already attacking the farm at the beginning of the episode... the remaining St John's wouldn't be able to supply them again as well as they could before, so I don't think they were gonna be fine either way.
However, as I thought about it more, I regretted how it was done. There was no reason for Lee to decide on his own (it should have been put to a vote) and people could have decided whether they wanted to watch the executions or not. Kids didn't need to see it.
The people who just wanted to get their group and leave the St Johns alive are pretty irresponsible. And the people who wanted the St Johns to be eaten by zombies (instead of executed) are into revenge, not justice.
on danny i wasn't sure there was another choice...thought it was just what had to be done (as I did with the leg choppy scene in start of ep 2) I didn't scan to check if anything else was clickable.
with Andy I hit him once and my mouse flew across the screen so then he pushed me over. I fought him off by kicking him into the fence just kinda zapping him. he got up and started yelling still looking damn strong, so i picked up his rifle and put it to good use. I barely feel like anything but the bullet affected him. he was another Larry IMO
And Andy, when he realized that his family was dead and the walkers were coming, I didn't find a reason to kill him, and everyone watching, that had also influences me.
By killing them you let them off lightly, in leaving them you leave them to the horrible death of being eaten alive by zombies.
As for me, I killed both, after Mark and Larry died I had no reason to spare them and my Lee isn't the kind of person to give a hostile party a chance to come back for revenge. And while I'm as nice as I can be to Clem, if I think she's wrong about something then I do things my way.
I agree, Andy could have made it out of there, and who would he want to hurt more than anyone, so take care of it first. Leaving either alive, no matter how bad danny was hurt would be a bad idea.
Exactly. It was poetic justice leaving Danny and Andy for mom's first zombie meal deal.
they both get the zombie chomp either way
having clem sad for killing Larry was bad enough
Exactly. :cool:
Me too but in the ZA I believe it's just called surviving truth be told:) I reacted as I would normally to a crazy group member eating family...I fucking closed shop on their dairy! No way was I gonna just let em turn, get up and continue eating humans. Would've given everyone a headshot if I could. they don't deserve my mercy, just a bullet. But in the real world I so don't kill people...until the walkers come then watch out. If you try to eat my group you are so gutted:p
I didn´t knew clem was watching and I killed him, but I let my choice because that´s what I really wanted to do.
BTW, I never reload my choices, that sucks for me !
The one and only time I ever reloaded a decision.
But Brenda turned into a walker and you saw her limping towards Andy who was making no move to run, so they probably got devoured anyway.
I had Lee kill both St. John brothers as well, and had Lee later explain to Clem that they were dangerous and that it was done for the good of the group.
It was a combination of rage over what they had done to Mark and what they wanted to do to Clementine, and wanting to get rid of them so that they couldn't hurt any more survivors. They had killed and eaten other 'guests,' and it is implied that the bear trap that ensnares the teacher that was with Ben was placed there by the St. John brothers to catch people to eat. I was afraid that sparing them might leave them around to kill more people.
If you spare the St. John brothers they end up getting killed anyway, except by zombies. And getting devoured by zombies is perhaps more fitting, considering they were killing and eating other people. But the first time through there is no way of knowing that, unless you've read or watched spoilers.
Danny wanted me to become him and abandon my humanity. By giving into his provocation I am just as bad, in his eyes as him, making him see himself as normal. By telling him I will not become him through leaving him I am showing him how wrong he is. There is no way he could get out of that Bear trap. Remember M.R Parker? One way or another he would be subject to the same fate.
When it came to Andy, by then I knew walkers were coming because Carly took one out and I knew that the fence was damaged because I sabotaged it earlier. I knew that Brenda was bitten and it would be worse for Andy to discover the death of his mother and state of his brother. They were both as good as dead, but what made leaving them more satisfying was knowing that their fates will be worse because they were spared. They get to see that they have lost everything because they fucked with us and they get to see us walk off in the moon light without blood on our hands, with our humanity intact, making us the better men which kind of rubbishes their philosophy.
We get the last laugh. They see us win and see us see them loose. A bullet is quick and puts them out of their misery. The fact that Clem is proud of us and respects us more is just a bonus. The rest of the group see you as a good man so they can judge you for themselves even after they learn about your past. You prove to them that you’re a good man and not the monstrous murderer the press made you out to be.
One of them was left stuck in a bear trap and the other was left unarmed, all while a horde of walkers smashed through their fence. Killing them probably would've been the more merciful thing to do.