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Season 2 Themes

Red PandaRed Panda
edited October 2012 in The Walking Dead
Season 1 explored death and survival. It's great but it will get stale fast. Personally, I'm not interested in the same themes explored with different characters.

What makes the comics and TV show so interesting is the other themes they explored. The walkers/post-apocalypse just intensifies the drama.

That said, any themes you are interested seeing explored?

Revenge is interesting. Just throwing out an idea.

Comments

  • BlackPaladinBlackPaladin
    edited October 2012
    Uhhh what?
    We explored:
    Death, survival, starvation (episode 2), cannibalism (2), murder (killing bandits in 3 or st johns in 2), revenge (killing larry if he was a dick to you, killing st johns in 2, killing ben in 4 for what he did, perhaps killing radio man in 5), rape (jolene mentioned it in 2 at least), extortion/prostitution (molly and the other girl with the doctor in 4). We even witnessed amputation in episode 2 with the teacher, just not amputation for a zombie bite.

    I mean, yes we can explore some of these in multiple different ways, but the only big themes from the comics we have yet to explore is finding a truly large and thriving community, considering crawford fell. But even that wouldn't happen unless we picked up at least 3 months in (which is where we are now) because the larger communities like that (woodbury, alexandria safe zone) are few and didn't exist until after people could get together to form and build them.
    It would be cool to be able to build a real community although I don't think this type of game works with that idea. :P
  • Red PandaRed Panda
    edited October 2012
    In the other forms, they've explored abortion, infidelity, racism, and other heavy themes. The game, in my opinion, has been pretty timid on everything except death. I'd like to see them take chances.
  • GhositexGhositex
    edited October 2012
    I think most of the topics that take place in TWD (comics, tv show, the game) are people overreacting under the stress from the ZA. it shows us how people would react when surviving is more important than just "living". Since everyone reacts different to this (cannibalism, murder, revenge, etc..), I wouldn't mind if some of the topics in season one were added/retouched in season two. I agree they need to add something new, but there are some topics that never are going to be excluded (murder, in example).
  • Red PandaRed Panda
    edited October 2012
    Romance is such a huge part of the comic and show but TT has been really shy about broaching that. It's not a game for kids so I don't get what their deal is on that but I think it's logic direction to go.

    Especially with Lee's death, it would seem recycled to be looking after a kid. Again.
  • DinosaurBillDinosaurBill
    edited October 2012
    Married couple as the protagonists of Season 2 perhaps? Clem's parents maybe?
  • DemonseedDemonseed
    edited October 2012
    I'm sure Clem's dad is dead, remember the voice message from her mom on the answering machine in Ep 1? I seem to recall that she said the dad got bit and was getting sicker and in the hospital. She also mentioned people biting other people and the situation getting worse. I'd be amazed if her mom survived too. I really believe they are both dead and have since I heard that message in Ep1.
  • ZeruisZeruis
    edited October 2012
    I want Lee to survive somehow. With that being said, I think parenting would be a great theme in season 2. In episode 5, we will likely find out what happened to Clem's parents. From there, I think Lee will have to take care of Clem, both knowing that her parents are dead.
  • DemonseedDemonseed
    edited October 2012
    I don't think Lee can do too much more taking care of Clem....his time is limited. Unless you meant that by "taking care of Clem" he is going to give her over to the people of his choice to care for her.
  • TWDFTWTWDFTW
    edited October 2012
    I think romance should be explored further, because like you said TT needs to take chances, otherwise it will be season 1 recycled over again, they need something fresh that they have not yet done, of course death and murder needs to be incorporated. To make the storyline more interesting and more gripping they can't recycle the same stuff over again otherwise people won't stick with it. Telltale almost lost out on a few gamers after the third episode but bought it after positive reviews, Telltale needs to tread carefully otherwise they could find a huge decline in their income from the games. Although they need to take chances and risks, they need to be careful that they don't go overboard and create some crappy over used cliche crap that has been used over and over again.

    I am interested to find out what others have to say :)
  • BlackPaladinBlackPaladin
    edited October 2012
    Yeah I agree that romance should be explored more. The carley/lee dynamic almost did, but then she her head blown off. Not very sexy.
  • TWDFTWTWDFTW
    edited October 2012
    BlackPaladin wrote: »
    Yeah I agree that romance should be explored more. The carley/lee dynamic almost did, but then she her head blown off. Not very sexy.

    Aha :) I wish that TT hadn't killed off Carley because I really wanted Lee and Carley to happen XD, but if they did use romance in season 2 it would have to be approached like in season 1.
  • GhositexGhositex
    edited October 2012
    Now that I think about it... Exploring romance sounds like a nice idea. I feel like Lee and Carley died before even starting.
  • ChristoasterChristoaster
    edited October 2012
    Ummm... Red Panda, death and survival is pretty much what a Zombie Apocolypse come down to... What are you expecting? Death and survival is the whole theme of it because it is a Zombie Apocolypse. I think what your really talking about are the themes within all of the death and trying to survive. I think revenge would be a cool theme. Maybe Clem goes on a rampage of killing everyone that fucked with Lee. amiright?
  • K0t0K0t0 Banned
    edited October 2012
    Maybe in season 2 you play as someone attempting to build an 'empire' a la The Governor. Throw morality out the window; you will actively try to base all your decisions on manipulation and deceit to work your way to the top of a specific survivor group.

    Either way, I hope they dont do something dumb and make the next group of survivors a bunch of teenagers, that would make me not buy it.
  • KingOfTheDeadKingOfTheDead
    edited October 2012
    There was racism in episode two. There where two moments.
  • Red PandaRed Panda
    edited October 2012
    K0t0 wrote: »
    Maybe in season 2 you play as someone attempting to build an 'empire' a la The Governor. Throw morality out the window; you will actively try to base all your decisions on manipulation and deceit to work your way to the top of a specific survivor group.

    That's an interesting idea.
  • bdawgnit1785bdawgnit1785
    edited October 2012
    K0t0 wrote: »
    Maybe in season 2 you play as someone attempting to build an 'empire' a la The Governor. Throw morality out the window; you will actively try to base all your decisions on manipulation and deceit to work your way to the top of a specific survivor group.

    Either way, I hope they dont do something dumb and make the next group of survivors a bunch of teenagers, that would make me not buy it.

    I wouldn't mind being a teenager but no i do not want the whole group to be teens...maybe in ep 1 until they are all killed near the end and you meet your real group :plol
  • Red PandaRed Panda
    edited October 2012
    I bet TellTale will go with bandits. You have to navigate the rights and wrongs of working with this gang like group.

    I think they will try to avoid romance at all means b/c it's too much of a writing challenge for them.
  • TWDFTWTWDFTW
    edited October 2012
    Red Panda wrote: »
    I bet TellTale will go with bandits. You have to navigate the rights and wrongs of working with this gang like group.

    I think they will try to avoid romance at all means b/c it's too much of a writing challenge for them.

    Yeah, as soon as they wrote in the Carley and Lee romance they killed off Carley. But I have to admit it is a skill that not everyone possesses to write about romance.
  • MilosuperspeshMilosuperspesh
    edited October 2012
    erm romance ?

    rape, incest, jumping in to other peoples beds every few pages.

    isn't romance at all, it's just sex/lust/power/ control there is a difference.
  • TWDFTWTWDFTW
    edited October 2012
    Red Panda wrote: »
    Season 1 explored death and survival. It's great but....

    It's that what TWD is all about? Or would your prefer a zombie shoot out game lol.
  • Red PandaRed Panda
    edited October 2012
    TWDFTW wrote: »
    It's that what TWD is all about? Or would your prefer a zombie shoot out game lol.

    A zombie shoot out game, or first-person shooter, is really all about death and survival. You kill or be killed. The Walking Dead is about the quiet moments. It's about the relationships with other people.

    In the comic, everybody is sleeping with somebody.
  • TWDFTWTWDFTW
    edited October 2012
    Red Panda wrote: »
    A zombie shoot out game, or first-person shooter, is really all about death and survival. You kill or be killed. The Walking Dead is about the quiet moments. It's about the relationships with other people.

    In the comic, everybody is sleeping with somebody.

    Oh yeah XD lol I'm being incredibly stupid today. But however you look at it zombies games/films/comics/books are all about survival and death. And I love TWD because it is all about your relationships with people alongside the death and survival.

    Do you mean you would like a new take on the death and survival sort of thing? Because if you do then I can understand what you mean but if not would you care to elaborate?
  • KingOfTheDeadKingOfTheDead
    edited October 2012
    Red Panda wrote: »
    A zombie shoot out game, or first-person shooter, is really all about death and survival. You kill or be killed. The Walking Dead is about the quiet moments. It's about the relationships with other people.

    In the comic, everybody is sleeping with somebody.

    so the next game should be like that. i like it!
  • MilosuperspeshMilosuperspesh
    edited October 2012
    so in short you people want left 4 dead with more story and more interaction

    oh look theres an activision game about merle and daryl coming out, so your in luck.
  • TWDFTWTWDFTW
    edited October 2012
    Milosuperspesh wrote: »
    so in short you people want left 4 dead with more story and more interaction

    oh look theres an activision game about merle and daryl coming out, so your in luck.

    Lol, I don't actually want that sort of game, but I thought that was what Red Panda was getting at lol, but thanks for telling me about the game I might get it :)
  • KingOfTheDeadKingOfTheDead
    edited October 2012
    I do think romance should be better in season to instead of the weak carley relationship
  • TWDFTWTWDFTW
    edited October 2012
    KingOfTheDead wrote: »
    I do think romance should be better in season to instead of the weak carley relationship

    I agree, but the Carley-Lee romance thing was put in place for you to feel more upset when she was shot, because let's face it, TT were having problems in keeping up with creating two sort of different storylines so ended Carley/Doug's life quickly.
  • KingOfTheDeadKingOfTheDead
    edited October 2012
    TWDFTW wrote: »
    I agree, but the Carley-Lee romance thing was put in place for you to feel more upset when she was shot, because let's face it, TT were having problems in keeping up with creating two sort of different storylines so ended Carley/Doug's life quickly.

    Yea it was stupid. When i got kissed on the cheek i was like yeah my lee all in that. Then when she was shot i replayed that scene like 5 times to try to save her.
  • MilosuperspeshMilosuperspesh
    edited October 2012
    ttg may of bumped off carley doug but in ep5 not everyone is going to have the same 'group' are they ?

    so if anything ttg have given themselves more work to do, unless the people who won't help lee merely say i'll stay with the boat.
  • thestalkingheadthestalkinghead
    edited October 2012
    maybe we should be a leader and we could make hard choices on the priorities of the group, it was the thing that the kenny Vs lilly thing was missing was for us to say i will be leader i will decide what we need and where to go
  • TWDFTWTWDFTW
    edited October 2012
    KingOfTheDead wrote: »
    Yea it was stupid. When i got kissed on the cheek i was like yeah my lee all in that. Then when she was shot i replayed that scene like 5 times to try to save her.

    I think that the Lee-Carley romance should of started in episode 2 because then it would of had time to develop because it felt rushed and cheap when it was like *kisses lee*

    Few minutes of gameplay later *bang* Carley's dead.

    I feel it could of been done to a higher standard, but they rushed it and failed :/
  • dustpuffsdustpuffs
    edited October 2012
    Kenny and Katja were probably rocking that motel every night! Who said there was no romance in this game? Now that Omid is doing better, he and Christa can join whatever the boat version of the mile high club is!
  • MilosuperspeshMilosuperspesh
    edited October 2012
    dustpuffs wrote: »
    Kenny and Katja were probably rocking that motel every night! Who said there was no romance in this game? Now that Omid is doing better, he and Christa can join whatever the boat version of the mile high club is!

    doubt the other group members would appreciate that considering it's an open top 5 seater...

    unless they like 'dogging' ie, being watched. plus clem's going to be there 'in theory'
  • BlackPaladinBlackPaladin
    edited October 2012
    Well... Clem's gotta learn somehow, right? If she's going to mother the next generatioj that is. lol
  • dustpuffsdustpuffs
    edited October 2012
    Milosuperspesh wrote: »
    doubt the other group members would appreciate that considering it's an open top 5 seater...

    unless they like 'dogging' ie, being watched. plus clem's going to be there 'in theory'

    Hahaha...I was thinking more of them being left behind to "watch the boat" not putting on a show.
  • NinnuendoNinnuendo
    edited October 2012
    After this series I'd like to switch things around. Take the role of a child who has to convince adults to take care of them.
  • DoxepineDoxepine
    edited October 2012
    I think dealing with mental disability would be a great theme for the upcoming season. I can imagine situation like this: the main character has a mentally disabled brother/sister to take care of. While your group's getting larger he/she becomes the leader and... has to deal with people who think his/her siblings put the group in danger. One night someone's trying to kill his/her brother/sister and the main character has to decide - kill that person or not. Some time later the group is locked up in some kind of dangerous place. The brother/sister starts to freak out (by making an uproar), thus drawing walker's attentions. The main character has to decide to kill his/her siblings (if there's no other way to shut him/her up) and keeps the group safe or put everyone (including himself/herself) in great danger by not doing what has to be done...

    This is just a small outline, but I think it would be interesting to be put in that kind of situations. And sorry for my English, it's not so good today... :)
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