I don't know if it really matters as far as the time when it started, I would like to know more about the beginning and how it spread without getting crushed by the military/cops/locals like in the original "Night of the Living Dead" at the end of the movie. Although eventually it did progress, the stoppage was only temporary.
I would like to see the original "patient zero" and see how it gets out of control, as well as an explanation as to why all living humans are infected, was it a virus or something mystical?
I would like to see the original "patient zero" and see how it gets out of control, as well as an explanation as to why all living humans are infected, was it a virus or something mystical?
That is what I was wondering, how everyone could become suddenly infected, it seems a little weird, but I guess it is just there to keep us guessing.
I don't know if it really matters as far as the time when it started, I would like to know more about the beginning and how it spread without getting crushed by the military/cops/locals like in the original "Night of the Living Dead" at the end of the movie. Although eventually it did progress, the stoppage was only temporary.
I would like to see the original "patient zero" and see how it gets out of control, as well as an explanation as to why all living humans are infected, was it a virus or something mystical?
You will never get that explanation. Kirkman said we will probably never find out how the virus came about.
In this world no matter what happens, the dead shall rise. Hmm, sounds like something out the book of revelations. Not that i'm religious or anything.
Everyone was just going on about their day when all of a sudden without warning comes instantaneous, widespread, global "infection"?
from my understanding:
the zombie disease is already inside you.
you die anyway possible without the brain dieing then you comeback.
the bite only makes a sickness that makes the disease strong enough to kill you.
I would like to see the original "patient zero" and see how it gets out of control, as well as an explanation as to why all living humans are infected, was it a virus or something mystical?
I had assumed that the zombie virus is airborne, carried by the zombies, and you contract it by getting too close to one. If somebody were to lock themselves up and never get near a walker, they wouldn't come back if they were to die.
Probably the year that Issue #1 came out? That's the onyl way we'll eer know, unless RK gives us an exact date (which is about as unlikely as them finding a cure at some point).
I had assumed that the zombie virus is airborne, carried by the zombies, and you contract it by getting too close to one. If somebody were to lock themselves up and never get near a walker, they wouldn't come back if they were to die.
Or it could have been a virus or something like one released into the water supply as a military or government experiment? Or maybe they thought it was an inoculation against a certain disease to only go very bad?
Just ideas....I personally don't care if I ever know how or why it started, but it would be cool if it was released.
Heck, it might even be something supernatural if you're into that thing. Like the end of times, or something. We'll never know, and I'm just fine with that.
well according to the tapes in ep 4 October 10th is 83 days since the outbreak. Working backwards, that means it started on July 20th.
At the start of episode 2 it says "3 months later" and it seems that it had been going on for a few days before the game starts and at least a few days for Ben to be giving the bandits supplies.
Eventually everyone will die because there isn't enough food and clean water for them to live off of.
Meh, not true.
Did you know you can even make your own Antibiotic? Thinks like Grape Seed Extract, Olive Leaf Extract, Tea Tree Oil, Garlic, etc, all have microbial properties.
Tea Tree Oil is great for cuts and other wounds.
Also, food doesn't just come from McDonalds. Clean water would be another issue, but that is what boiling is for.
Survival IMO relies more on Geography and skill sets than anything else in this universe.
It is honestly rather amazing that Herschel seems to know none of this, but I guess that is the limitation of Kirkman.
Did you know you can even make your own Antibiotic? Thinks like Grape Seed Extract, Olive Leaf Extract, Tea Tree Oil, Garlic, etc, all have microbial properties.
Tea Tree Oil is great for cuts and other wounds.
Also, food doesn't just come from McDonalds. Clean water would be another issue, but that is what boiling is for.
Survival IMO relies more on Geography and skill sets than anything else in this universe.
It is honestly rather amazing that Herschel seems to know none of this, but I guess that is the limitation of Kirkman.
True, but it is hard for you to survive and not everyone knows about that kind of stuff and boiling water (I know, some people don't realise that you can do that). But good points, I will keep this in mind.
Patient zero took a bite of a contaminated burger.
The plague of the 21st Century, remember mad cow disease? Well mad cow became mad person became mad zombie. It's a fast acting virus that leaves you with a swollen brain, a raging fever, makes you hateful and violent and leaves you with a really bad case of the munchies.
True, but it is hard for you to survive and not everyone knows about that kind of stuff and boiling water (I know, some people don't realise that you can do that). But good points, I will keep this in mind.
Exactly, most people in the U.S. do not know how to grow crops or make water pure for drinking. Someone in another thread said you can boil salt water to make fresh water, while true unless you know how to set up a condenser you will only be drinking salt water in the end. Boiling water only kills germs.....
I think food is a little easier to deal with if you can fish or hunt (set up snares and such) but without those skills or in bad terrain (the desert for instance) one could hard pressed to survive, let alone a group of survivors.
I do agree with what you said TWDFTW, not everyone knows how to make it if the grocery stores and clean water go bye-bye. Hell, a lot of people think canned goods and gas never go bad.....
Exactly, most people in the U.S. do not know how to grow crops or make water pure for drinking. Someone in another thread said you can boil salt water to make fresh water, while true unless you know how to set up a condenser you will only be drinking salt water in the end. Boiling water only kills germs.....
I think food is a little easier to deal with if you can fish or hunt (set up snares and such) but without those skills or in bad terrain (the desert for instance) one could hard pressed to survive, let alone a group of survivors.
I do agree with what you said TWDFTW, not everyone knows how to make it if the grocery stores and clean water go bye-bye. Hell, a lot of people think canned goods and gas never go bad.....
I think people should be taught these things, these are valuable skills that everyone needs to have on hand if need be. And as for not knowing that gas and canned food doesn't go off, well they really need to know these things!
from my understanding:
the zombie disease is already inside you.
you die anyway possible without the brain dieing then you comeback.
the bite only makes a sickness that makes the disease strong enough to kill you.
Exactly my point, it was already there, instantaneously, everyone has it, you don't need a bite to become one, you just need to die with your brain in tact.
Exactly my point, it was already there, instantaneously, everyone has it, you don't need a bite to become one, you just need to die with your brain in tact.
Sound like a case of the wrath of God
"god,why did you make the dead come back to life." said Lee
Shot to the head.
"guys, lets get outta here before the walkers get here." said Kenny
Part of the walking dead is we don't get much information about the walkers. We don't know when it started, how it started, why it started, what it is, nothing. This is done on purpose. The biggest nugget of info we get on walkers is in the CDC in the comics/TV show.
Exactly, most people in the U.S. do not know how to grow crops or make water pure for drinking. Someone in another thread said you can boil salt water to make fresh water, while true unless you know how to set up a condenser you will only be drinking salt water in the end. Boiling water only kills germs.....
I think food is a little easier to deal with if you can fish or hunt (set up snares and such) but without those skills or in bad terrain (the desert for instance) one could hard pressed to survive, let alone a group of survivors.
I do agree with what you said TWDFTW, not everyone knows how to make it if the grocery stores and clean water go bye-bye. Hell, a lot of people think canned goods and gas never go bad.....
Yeah, that's an advantage to having Hershel in the comics and TV show. He knows the trade.
Yeah, that's an advantage to having Hershel in the comics and TV show. He knows the trade.
Yes he does, that is why I would move to the countryside (you can't grow food in asphalt), not to mention being in a city is dangerous due to the sheer amount of walkers.
I would consider moving north to ensure a nice winter that freezes up the zombies so I could go "hunting" and get rid of tons of them easily, but surviving a winter is rough unless you have a good supply of food for the winter.
Here's a question, we do see the walkers eating animals from time to time, how long until most animals are gone and the survivors are forced to subside off of veggies, fruits and fish?
***Also, what if the infected died in a river, would the fish become infected and once eaten, turn survivors into walkers? ***
Exactly, most people in the U.S. do not know how to grow crops or make water pure for drinking. Someone in another thread said you can boil salt water to make fresh water, while true unless you know how to set up a condenser you will only be drinking salt water in the end. Boiling water only kills germs.....
I think food is a little easier to deal with if you can fish or hunt (set up snares and such) but without those skills or in bad terrain (the desert for instance) one could hard pressed to survive, let alone a group of survivors.
I do agree with what you said TWDFTW, not everyone knows how to make it if the grocery stores and clean water go bye-bye. Hell, a lot of people think canned goods and gas never go bad.....
That's another good one, Fuel tends to start breaking down almost right away if some sort of "Stabilizer" isn't used. And because Fuel sells so quickly, the oil companies never bother adding stabilizer to it.
After 8 months, most fuel would go bad.
As to the animal question, IMO, most animals would never be taken by a zombie unless they were cornered or already sick and dying (most are too fast or their skin is too thick to be penetrated).
Although I do find it interesting that they show almost no animals in the television show. even just 8 months later and animal populations should be booming... And few turned animals as well. Ever notice that?
Patient zero took a bite of a contaminated burger.
The plague of the 21st Century, remember mad cow disease?
Just for the record - mad cow disease isn't caused by viruses. It is caused by prions - proteins similar to human (or animal) proteins with slightly different tertiary structure.
About boiling water - you have to boil it long enough to kill all the dangerous germs. If bacteria forms a spore, boiling just won't work (unless you have special equipment for boiling water under high pressure). Aside from germs, you'll have to deal with chemical pollution.
PS I just remembered a method for chemically polluted water - you have to put wood charcoal into the water. It absorbs most of the known toxins, but not all of them. Well, something's better than nothing...
As to the animal question, IMO, most animals would never be taken by a zombie unless they were cornered or already sick and dying (most are too fast or their skin is too thick to be penetrated).
Although I do find it interesting that they show almost no animals in the television show. even just 8 months later and animal populations should be booming... And few turned animals as well. Ever notice that?
Yeah I did, I believe animals are immune to turning for some reason although it never is explained (I never read the comics so the answer could be in there).
You are right, most animals could stay away unless they were cornered, sick or hurt.
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I don't know if it really matters as far as the time when it started, I would like to know more about the beginning and how it spread without getting crushed by the military/cops/locals like in the original "Night of the Living Dead" at the end of the movie. Although eventually it did progress, the stoppage was only temporary.
I would like to see the original "patient zero" and see how it gets out of control, as well as an explanation as to why all living humans are infected, was it a virus or something mystical?
That is what I was wondering, how everyone could become suddenly infected, it seems a little weird, but I guess it is just there to keep us guessing.
No better way to keep us tuning in for more right?
You will never get that explanation. Kirkman said we will probably never find out how the virus came about.
Everyone was just going on about their day when all of a sudden without warning comes instantaneous, widespread, global "infection"?
from my understanding:
the zombie disease is already inside you.
you die anyway possible without the brain dieing then you comeback.
the bite only makes a sickness that makes the disease strong enough to kill you.
"Of what year?" is the actual question then.
I had assumed that the zombie virus is airborne, carried by the zombies, and you contract it by getting too close to one. If somebody were to lock themselves up and never get near a walker, they wouldn't come back if they were to die.
Or it could have been a virus or something like one released into the water supply as a military or government experiment? Or maybe they thought it was an inoculation against a certain disease to only go very bad?
Just ideas....I personally don't care if I ever know how or why it started, but it would be cool if it was released.
Anyone ever wonder that people in a different geography would be able to survive much better?
For instance, the mountains?
Meh, not true.
Did you know you can even make your own Antibiotic? Thinks like Grape Seed Extract, Olive Leaf Extract, Tea Tree Oil, Garlic, etc, all have microbial properties.
Tea Tree Oil is great for cuts and other wounds.
Also, food doesn't just come from McDonalds. Clean water would be another issue, but that is what boiling is for.
Survival IMO relies more on Geography and skill sets than anything else in this universe.
It is honestly rather amazing that Herschel seems to know none of this, but I guess that is the limitation of Kirkman.
Exactly
True, but it is hard for you to survive and not everyone knows about that kind of stuff and boiling water (I know, some people don't realise that you can do that). But good points, I will keep this in mind.
The plague of the 21st Century, remember mad cow disease? Well mad cow became mad person became mad zombie. It's a fast acting virus that leaves you with a swollen brain, a raging fever, makes you hateful and violent and leaves you with a really bad case of the munchies.
Exactly, most people in the U.S. do not know how to grow crops or make water pure for drinking. Someone in another thread said you can boil salt water to make fresh water, while true unless you know how to set up a condenser you will only be drinking salt water in the end. Boiling water only kills germs.....
I think food is a little easier to deal with if you can fish or hunt (set up snares and such) but without those skills or in bad terrain (the desert for instance) one could hard pressed to survive, let alone a group of survivors.
I do agree with what you said TWDFTW, not everyone knows how to make it if the grocery stores and clean water go bye-bye. Hell, a lot of people think canned goods and gas never go bad.....
I think people should be taught these things, these are valuable skills that everyone needs to have on hand if need be. And as for not knowing that gas and canned food doesn't go off, well they really need to know these things!
Exactly my point, it was already there, instantaneously, everyone has it, you don't need a bite to become one, you just need to die with your brain in tact.
Sound like a case of the wrath of God
"god,why did you make the dead come back to life." said Lee
Shot to the head.
"guys, lets get outta here before the walkers get here." said Kenny
Yeah, that's an advantage to having Hershel in the comics and TV show. He knows the trade.
Yes he does, that is why I would move to the countryside (you can't grow food in asphalt), not to mention being in a city is dangerous due to the sheer amount of walkers.
I would consider moving north to ensure a nice winter that freezes up the zombies so I could go "hunting" and get rid of tons of them easily, but surviving a winter is rough unless you have a good supply of food for the winter.
Here's a question, we do see the walkers eating animals from time to time, how long until most animals are gone and the survivors are forced to subside off of veggies, fruits and fish?
***Also, what if the infected died in a river, would the fish become infected and once eaten, turn survivors into walkers? ***
That's another good one, Fuel tends to start breaking down almost right away if some sort of "Stabilizer" isn't used. And because Fuel sells so quickly, the oil companies never bother adding stabilizer to it.
After 8 months, most fuel would go bad.
As to the animal question, IMO, most animals would never be taken by a zombie unless they were cornered or already sick and dying (most are too fast or their skin is too thick to be penetrated).
Although I do find it interesting that they show almost no animals in the television show. even just 8 months later and animal populations should be booming... And few turned animals as well. Ever notice that?
About boiling water - you have to boil it long enough to kill all the dangerous germs. If bacteria forms a spore, boiling just won't work (unless you have special equipment for boiling water under high pressure). Aside from germs, you'll have to deal with chemical pollution.
PS I just remembered a method for chemically polluted water - you have to put wood charcoal into the water. It absorbs most of the known toxins, but not all of them. Well, something's better than nothing...
Yeah I did, I believe animals are immune to turning for some reason although it never is explained (I never read the comics so the answer could be in there).
You are right, most animals could stay away unless they were cornered, sick or hurt.