More Cross statistics analysis Clem-Ben

Perfect_Cell

Inspired by the previous thread about doug-ben and the ongoing should you drop ben debate, I am inspired to debunk at least 1 point the people who saved ben make.

How many times I hear, "you can't drop ben he is just a kid" and also hear "i agree with chuck clementine is a person not a kid" is just stupid. A believe both decisions were about 70-30. So how can so many of you think you can't kill ben but can willingly take a child into a place thought to be full of armed bandits who don't take kindly to kids??

Also, how many of you are letting queen clementine warp your mind. How many of you in kenny's vote thought, yeah we are going to get rid of Ben then suddenly abstained because little Clemmy said Ben was a cool guy?

I'm just saying it wouldn't surprise me if the 30 or so percent who didn't take clem are also the 30 or so percent who dropped ben.
Just a thought, what do you guys think?

trd84

Take her with you or leave her alone in a house with a guy who might die and try to eat her. Also there's that stalker guy who's after her.

Perfect_Cell

trd84 wrote: »

Take her with you or leave her alone in a house with a guy who might die and try to eat her. Also there's that stalker guy who's after her.

Zombies throughout savanah and multiple live people who are almost crazy anyway? and have guns? You leave her with a gun, she even shoots a walker who breaks in. I just think people are letting clem cloud them TOO much. Yes she is a very believable video game child who's best interests and opinion should be considered but there is a point where she is still just a child.

TWDFTW

I still dropped Ben even after she went on about some crap of how she should get a vote. Admittedly I was going to pull him up but I was panicking and shaking so much I pressed the wrong button, but after thinking of all the dumbass stuff he did and screwed up, I'm glad he isn't here because seriously he pulled a hatchet out of a door which was clearly there for a reason. I took Clem with me to Crawford because if Omid died, then he would turn and Clem would be left on her own, and plus like someone else said, there is that freaky guy who is trying to get Clem. I sided with her when we were at the car in the forest and there were all those supplies because it was the first time she voiced her opinion and also because I was worried so shit would go down getting someone killed.

I do agree that we shouldn't let Clem rule our gameplay, but if you are a horrible dick to her, it isn't very nice, and also Christa starts being all arsey over everything. But yes, she is just a kid, and her opinions are not always to be followed, she needs to understand that, because she's like 'bens my friend, I want him on the boat!' You can want all ya like, but first chance we get, your going down my friend. Lol, I think that Clem can be a little controlling of you at some points but I still like her, and I was really upset when she started crying over the not being able to find her parents who are obviously dead, well at least her dad is because in episode 1 when Lee finds his way into Clem's house and listens to all the voicemail, Clem's mum Diana said her dad was attacked by some weird guy or something, so long ago I have forgotten, so I think she should just move on.

ZacTB

I agree with some of what Chuck said, but not all of it.

pdlbean

I left Clem at home and honestly if I had heard her say that Ben was her friend and they couldn't leave him behind, I might have thought twice about dropping him. But I left her the first time and didn't hear it so in my main save, bye bye Ben.

Also, I don't understand why people brought Clem, let alone the majority of people! I figured she was WAY safer with Omid who had a slight chance of turning while she was home alone instead of bringing her along where I thought really dangerous, ruthless people were going to be. Plus I gave her the gun and I know she would know what to do with it if she had to use it. And she did. So I stand by that decision 100%.

Viser

I left Clem at the house with the Gun and I sided with Ben throughout the whole Kenny-screaming-at-Ben scene after he confesses feeling responsible for Kat's and Duck's death, even though I never heard Clem calling him a friend or anything. I probably sided with him because I'm a teenager as well and I kind of feel like I understand him, and I hate how people are always treating him (I already said this on another thread btw :P). I don't think those cross statistics analysis are very accurate because more than one factor influences people's choices

Also, Clem does have some sort of influence on some choices I make (like not looting the car on Episode 2), but I can't let her decide everything for me. But you gotta admit, it's pretty hard going against Clem, I didn't feel very good about leaving her behind, because it feels like you're somehow hurting her feelings
I only started feeling better after I could give her the gun, so I at least knew she'd be safe.

Kelium

I honestly took Clem with us because I thought we might need her because she could get into places adults couldn't fit if we needed her to. I also didn't want here alone at the house with Omid. If one of the others like Christa stayed with Omid I would have probably let her stay behind.

I don't know what I would have done with Ben if she hadn't came with us. I more than likely would have saved his ass bc I don't want to see anymore people in my original group die and he is a kid/teenager as well.

MesterF

I din't take Clem with me, but i did still save Ben. So, it aint totally right

KingOfTheDead

The magical hobo protects clem wherever she is why does it matter.

Phoenix VII

I took Clem to Crawford (not sure if that was the right decision or not, both options don't sit too well with me), gave Clem a vote, personally voted against Ben, and then dropped him. I'm generally as nice as possible to Clem, but if I think she's wrong then, well, she's wrong. Even without factoring in Ben's behavior in Ep. 3 and early Ep. 4, his actions at Crawford alone could've very well destroyed the group and shows that's he too prone to causing disasters to safely have in any group.

dustpuffs

I left Clem at the house where thought she'd be safer. I did not drop Ben.

Malphaxis

No where is really safe, but I felt Clem was safest with me & thought she might be needed in one of those "too small for an adult" spots. And as it turned out she did save Mollys bacon.
Ben was right up there with Larry in the "I gotta get rid of this guy" dept. Not for the same reasons but still, just how many times was Bens dumbassery gonna try and kill me before he finaly succeeded.
Ben said drop me, so I dropped him. Done.

HiggsBoson2142

Was nice to Ben ever since I met him, didn't take Clem, voted for Ben to stay, saved Ben. Yeah. He caused five/six to die or get in danger. Yet I was on his side since the Bear Trap.