Cross Statistic Analysis: ST John Brothers/Ben decision
I am interested in the relation between the two decisions.
Kill both and drop Ben
Kill both and save Ben (My choice)
Kill none and drop Ben
kill none and save Ben (Are you a saint or something?)
kill one of them and drop Ben
kill one of them and save Ben
What was your decisions?
PS. I killed both because and they deliberately killed Mark and they were also very insincere. I saved Ben because I would never deliberately kill someone just because he is idiot.
Kill both and drop Ben
Kill both and save Ben (My choice)
Kill none and drop Ben
kill none and save Ben (Are you a saint or something?)
kill one of them and drop Ben
kill one of them and save Ben
What was your decisions?
PS. I killed both because and they deliberately killed Mark and they were also very insincere. I saved Ben because I would never deliberately kill someone just because he is idiot.
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Hmm That is also very logical decisions too.
love reading people's reasoning
As I posted in another thread, I didn't kill either of the brothers because I had just killed Larry. Killing Larry, in my opinion, was necessary, although very unpleasant. Both of the St. John brothers, when the option was presented to kill them, were in vulnerable positions, in no way able to fight back.
I already had enough blood on my hands, even if it saved Clementine.
Danny had to sickles in him and was stuck in bear trap. I was content to leave him where he was. Andy I beat to hell.. like reallly badly beat him, noticed inbound zombies. Let them both suffer a bit more instead. Death was too easy for them.
And i didn't drop ben because i'm not one of the hundreds of hypocrites on the forums who did nothing but hate and want to kill ben, only to be given literally that option and pussy out. I was tempted to lift him up.. but then he told me to drop him. the end
I understand where you are coming from but the game made it obvious that to spare them was the mercy choice of the two.
Doug died saving Ben, so you just killed the guy whom Doug died for, thus rendering his sacrifice useless.
I dropped Ben because, like the meat locker, it seemed like the logical thing to do. The walkers were everywhere, and Vernon's comment about the railroad made me think that the herd had just arrived. I thought that any time I spent saving him would be more time the walkers had to cut us off from our escape, kill/bite another member of the group, or something just as bad. I didn;t hate the kid when I dropped him. Heck, I respected him for accepting his death and willingly allowing himself to be left behind so that the group could live. I felt far worse about dropping him than I did about offing Larry, especially when I saw that he actually would have survived.
...oh no. I honestly haven't thought this. I'm sorry, Doug! Still, Kenny's my total bro (ever since the beginning, I even killed Larry) and Ben did kinda kill his wife and child so...
I wasn't going to kill Ben, I wanted him to just keep what he did quiet (I wished he hadn't even told me, I didn't really care who stole the supplies) but the guy couldn't even keep his mouth shut- he hadn't done a thing right since I met him so he had to go.
As far as analysis goes, I only have one play-through and in that one I just do whatever I would do. So seeing as how I started the game trying to make all the good-guy choices... maybe I'm not as good a guy as I thought. I was merciful to the Saint Johns because I didn't think I was capable of murder. Turns out I'd kill a kid.
I'm sure as hell not about to kill two people who were no threat in cold blood and especially not in front of Clem. Danny was in the bear trap and Andy's face looked like poop when I was done with it, so it's safe to say walkers got em.
I'm not about to drop anyone to the walkers, no matter how many stupid mistakes they make. If I could give Ben some supplies and send him on his way then sure but I'm not goin to kill the poor kid.
You left one in a bear trap and beat the other one badly ... and then left them in the paths of zombies, expecting them to die ... but you say you didn't kill them in cold blood. It seems like you did, and in a horrible way, too.
How is injuring people and leaving them in the path of mortal danger different from killing them? I don't see the distinction. If anything, it seems like cruel revenge, or at best eye for an eye justice, to leave anyone for the zombies, instead of executing them.
Several people have said they spared the St Johns because it seemed like the good thing to do or they didn't want Clem to see ... but it's not actually sparing them if there isn't a way for them to survive. You ruined their means of survival, ruined their bodies, and left them to be killed by zombies. That's pretty cold blooded and vengeful.
Is the reason it was wrong to kill them because you got the better of them in a fight, and they posed no immediate threat? So ... if a murderer tries to kill you but surrenders when you defeat them, then the right thing to do is to let them go and hope they don't try again. Any murderer who surrenders should get a second chance to kill you some other time? Or is it only ok to spare them if you know the situation will kill them anyway?
I figured the second St.John brother was dead anyway and I didnt want Clem to see anymore killing in that moment.
Ben convinced me and I didnt want my knowing what Ben had done to turn Kenny against me.
you don't see the zombies until after you decide to spare them
My girlfriend spared the brothers but dropped Ben.
LOL she is hard core. I laughed. She was ready to off Ben when he Left Clem in the street.