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Lilly Caul in Road to Woodbury

Estrella16Estrella16
edited January 2013 in The Walking Dead
I know this thread has been posted probably millions of times but has anyone (Kirkman or Telltale or the author of the book) talked about and explained what the heck is going on as to why Lilly has a different backstory in the book(a crappy one no less) to the one in the game? Has it been explained? The book itself is very mediocre to be honest but this whole confusion with the Lilly thing makes it even worse!
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  • multicoltmulticolt
    edited November 2012
    perhaps is a different lilly with the same name....
    that or the writers never talked to each other and this happened...
  • Viner16Viner16
    edited November 2012
    multicolt wrote: »
    that or the writers never talked to each other and this happened...

    +1 :d
  • HelloCthulhuHelloCthulhu
    edited November 2012
    multicolt wrote: »
    that or Kirkman never bothered to tell Telltale and this happened...
    fixed.
  • KingOfTheDeadKingOfTheDead
    edited November 2012
    Or maybe this is Lily for the T.V series.
  • HelloCthulhuHelloCthulhu
    edited November 2012
    except telltale said that this game is set in the world of the comics.
  • KingOfTheDeadKingOfTheDead
    edited November 2012
    Yea T.V show characters have different backgrounds its possible but i doubt it, since this is a continuation of the "governor" series so it's in the comics. The other idea was wish full thinking, and the wiki says it fills the gap between the video game and comic series.
  • Rock114Rock114
    edited November 2012
    What's her backstory in the book? I don't plan on getting it, and I'd like to know exactly how different book Lilly is from cool (game) Lilly.
  • KingOfTheDeadKingOfTheDead
    edited November 2012
    Rock114 wrote: »
    What's her backstory in the book? I don't plan on getting it, and I'd like to know exactly how different book Lilly is from cool (game) Lilly.
    They don't go to deep into it. Only difference is her dads name is everet and he dies in a different way then larry. And lily meets a guy named James Lee hamilton which becomes her boyfriend and the guy is black too. The books is said to be cannon too fills the bridge but too many plot holes.
    http://walkingdead.wikia.com/wiki/The_Walking_Dead:_The_Road_to_Woodbury
  • zev_zevzev_zev
    edited January 2013
    Can anybody tell me the end of the book? As like 48 issue of the comics? What about Lilly's fate? Do you know anything?
  • RobbingrobinRobbingrobin
    edited January 2013
    They are not the same Lilys. That was changed recently, I heard.
  • gimmeseason2gimmeseason2
    edited January 2013
    maybe we're not supposed to know about Lilly's "backstory" and that's just in the comics/book. She'll most likely be back in season 2 though especially if you decided to let her come with you and
    then stealing the rv
  • zev_zevzev_zev
    edited January 2013
    Robbingrobin wrote: »
    They are not the same Lilys. That was changed recently, I heard.

    What? You mean that Lilly game character, and Lilly comics character isn't same? How do you know that? If that true, I'll gonna happy!
  • Viner16Viner16
    edited January 2013
    zev_zev wrote: »
    What? You mean that Lilly game character, and Lilly comics character isn't same? How do you know that? If that true, I'll gonna happy!

    Kirkman says that the Game Lilly is not the Comic Lilly in the Letter Hacks of Issue 106.
  • zev_zevzev_zev
    edited January 2013
    Viner16 wrote: »
    Kirkman says that the Game Lilly is not the Comic Lilly in the Letter Hacks of Issue 106.

    Yahooo! It's a very good news for me! Thanks! It means that she are not dead!
  • RobbingrobinRobbingrobin
    edited January 2013
    zev_zev wrote: »
    Yahooo! It's a very good news for me! Thanks! It means that she are not dead!

    Ohgott... Ich mag dich!
  • zev_zevzev_zev
    edited January 2013
    Robbingrobin wrote: »
    Ohgott... Ich mag dich!

    Excuse me what?
  • RobbingrobinRobbingrobin
    edited January 2013
    zev_zev wrote: »
    Excuse me what?

    Nothing. I liked your reaction.
  • thestalkingheadthestalkinghead
    edited January 2013
    zev_zev wrote: »
    Yahooo! It's a very good news for me! Thanks! It means that she are not dead!

    it could equally mean she is dead, but now we don't know
  • AnnaSanAnnaSan
    edited January 2013
    But she's not dead in the comics though o.o
  • thestalkingheadthestalkinghead
    edited January 2013
    AnnaSan wrote: »
    But she's not dead in the comics though o.o

    she isn't in the comic
  • AnnaSanAnnaSan
    edited January 2013
    thestalkinghead wrote: »
    she isn't in the comic

    Oh, sorry I was talking about Comic Lilly not Game Lilly.
  • CarScarCarScar
    edited January 2013
    thestalkinghead wrote: »
    it could equally mean she is dead, but now we don't know
    It is heavily implied that she did die though.
  • deleted_kvu58h8z1228894deleted_kvu58h8z1228894
    edited January 2013
    There's your answer.
    ~2:09 Lilly of the game = Lilly of the comics.
  • Rock114Rock114
    edited January 2013
    Scolecite wrote: »
    There's your answer.
    ~2:09 Lilly of the game = Lilly of the comics.

    That was way before RTW was even announced. Still, I'll always think that game Lilly = comic Lilly no matter what.
  • RobbingrobinRobbingrobin
    edited January 2013
    Rock114 wrote: »
    That was way before RTW was even announced. Still, I'll always think that game Lilly = comic Lilly no matter what.

    Okay, do that. You'd be just wrong.
  • zev_zevzev_zev
    edited January 2013
    http://walkingdead.wikia.com/wiki/Letter_Hacks 106 Kirkman said that Lilly in comic and Lilly in game isn't same characters.
  • waseeqsiddiquiwaseeqsiddiqui
    edited January 2013
    I m reading Walking Dead comics these days and have reached issue 84. All I know about Lily is that she is a dark character who comes along with Governor and kills LORI GRIMES while she hides in the prison! #too much disappointed n seeing Andrea in Wd Amc!
  • MornaiMornai
    edited January 2013
    Robbingrobin wrote: »
    Okay, do that. You'd be just wrong.

    It's a far better alternative.
  • RobbingrobinRobbingrobin
    edited January 2013
    Mornai wrote: »
    It's a far better alternative.

    Than what? Finally accepting, that game lily probably is not dead? That she did not shoot a mother and her child?
  • zev_zevzev_zev
    edited January 2013
    Did anywhere in game we heard Lilly's last name - Caul, as her named in Road to Woodbery? It's a two different Lillys, Kirkman confirmed that.
  • zev_zevzev_zev
    edited January 2013
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRVeFwDGnso&lc=YNVFZ_bzPYAnagTLLDFXXz89xmkWshewW3siwIPcPSo So who should I believe after this?
  • RobbingrobinRobbingrobin
    edited January 2013
    zev_zev wrote: »
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRVeFwDGnso&lc=YNVFZ_bzPYAnagTLLDFXXz89xmkWshewW3siwIPcPSo So who should I believe after this?

    Are you fucking kidding me? The official sources maybe?
  • Danno123Danno123
    edited January 2013
    Too.
    Much.
    Lily.
  • zev_zevzev_zev
    edited January 2013
    Robbingrobin wrote: »
    Are you fucking kidding me? The official sources maybe?

    Wow wow relax dude. The official version was initially is that Lily of the comic strip and Lilly of the game is the same, and now the official version is that this is a different characters. I very much want to believe that the second version is correct.
  • RobbingrobinRobbingrobin
    edited January 2013
    zev_zev wrote: »
    Wow wow relax dude. The official version was initially is that Lily of the comic strip and Lilly of the game is the same, and now the official version is that this is a different characters. I very much want to believe that the second version is correct.

    It is. The last reliable source said, that Kirkman decided that Lilly from the Game is not Lily Caul from the comic/book. And I am relaxed.
  • FarmerJoeFarmerJoe
    edited January 2013
    Original plan:Telltale ask Kirkman if they can include Lilly Caul in their game and tell her back story before she arrived in Woodbury.Kirkman says yes,go ahead.

    Plan B also known as "Kirkman fucks over Telltale": Kirkman decides to co-write novels detailing the back story of his characters from Woodbury and decides that the second one will be about Lilly.He and his co-writer want to have the freedom to write without the constraints of using game Lilly(understandable)and they decide to ignore the Telltale version(very disappointing).

    Plan C: New novel about comic Lilly on the way so Telltale have to remove any previous mention that game Lilly is the same Lilly i.e her character bio and the "Woodbury Bound" achievement/trophy.Kirkman now says that we have two differnt Lilly's thus comic,novels and game can stay canon and will still exist in the same world.

    Hope that makes it clear.

    I liked the original idea of the game interacting more with the comic but I accept that things have now changed. At no time do we hear game Lilly or Larry mention that their surname is Caul, so no story conflict there.We now have two Lilly's in The Walking Dead with different surnames,no canon conflict.We also have a Molly in the game and comic who only share the same name.

    Unless Telltale decide to do more with their Lilly in future seasons it's up to individual players to decide what fate they want for her.

    A grisly end if you hated her or a much more pleasant fate if you liked her...
  • waseeqsiddiquiwaseeqsiddiqui
    edited January 2013
    And also that there are many people having same names! For e.g there are two Billy in WD Comics ! One twin to Ben(sons to Donna nd Allen) / one Herschel 's son! So Lily problem is not much big issue! Both Lilyz I hate!!!! Though Comics one at least kills that Governor!!
  • ZeruisZeruis
    edited January 2013
    I don't care what the novel said. I played the game with the intent that game Lilly was comic Lilly, (which who she was in the first place) and that's how it's going to stay. Unless TT brings her back for season 2.
  • PlatinumbPlatinumb
    edited January 2013
    Everyone has a good or an evil Doppelganger.

    Was comic Lilly the good one?
  • FarmerJoeFarmerJoe
    edited January 2013
    Platinumb wrote: »
    Everyone has a good or an evil Doppelganger.

    Was comic Lilly the good one?

    Comic Lilly does kill a mother and her baby so...

    Neither Lilly's actions are "good" but I'm sure people will have their own opinion on who and what is worse and why they did what they did.I don't think it's as simple as which one is the evil or good one(or you ignore and deny the novel and decide it's the same Lilly,as some choose to do)
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