I don't think all Republicans are. But when you have some making nonstop chatter about electric fences to kill Mexicans and arguing Obama must be a Kenyan Muslim, yeah, I'm talking to them.
I don't think all Republicans are. But when you have some making nonstop chatter about electric fences to kill Mexicans and arguing Obama must be a Kenyan Muslim, yeah, I'm talking to them.
First of all, the immigrants are practically ruining the country’s economy by taking the jobs that were reserved for actual Americans with actual citizenship.
According to a review of U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics and Census Bureau data, legal and illegal immigrants gained over a million additional jobs between 2008 and 2010 even as millions of American citizens were losing their jobs during that same time period.
Another thing, the government really doesn’t really give a damn. Thanks to the negligence of the federal government, far more people move into the United States illegally than come in through the legal immigration process.
Also, immigrants are given free insurance and don’t have to pay taxes. Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with people these days? They’re giving special stuff to the people who shouldn’t even be allowed to live here (i’m not racist), and saying ‘fuck you’ to the people who are actually from this country? Come on!
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so like most of my co workers are my immigrants and they're also legal and without them the entire hotel would practically collapse.
also my mom is an immigrant and she is legal and just as much of an american as anyone else.
this country is based entirely off immigrants.
however if we're talking about illegal immigrants, they're doing the job NOBODY ELSE wants to do and "actual americans" are hiring them, even to the point of telling them to come over here, despite knowing that they're illegal so they they don't have to follow guidelines or pay them a proper wage.
not having a living wage and working in completely unsafe and inhospitable circumstances is something to be envied and we should all want that for ourselves.
First of all, the immigrants are practically ruining the country’s economy by taking the jobs that were reserved for actual Americans with actual citizenship.
According to a review of U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics and Census Bureau data, legal and illegal immigrants gained over a million additional jobs between 2008 and 2010 even as millions of American citizens were losing their jobs during that same time period.
Another thing, the government really doesn’t really give a damn. Thanks to the negligence of the federal government, far more people move into the United States illegally than come in through the legal immigration process.
Also, immigrants are given free insurance and don’t have to pay taxes. Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with people these days?
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This same stuff was said about the Chinese, Japanese, Irish, etc etc etc throughout every period in history when Americans felt like they weren't getting a fair deal. Read some damn history. You know when this country had its highest levels of success? In the 50s and 60s, when the top tax rate was 91%. Maybe that's a bigger factor behind why we're having economic troubles.
And FYI? It's never right to call for people to be electrocuted. It's wrong Republicans insinuated Obama was Muslim, first because he's not, and second because IT WOULD NOT MATTER.
Speaking from California, I'm fairly sure that the economy would collapse if there were no more illegal immigrants. This is a situation that requires a lot of thought and planning. I agree that we should be taking greater measures to control who enters this country, but I think we should be working to make the process more streamlined so that more people can enter legally and don't feel tempted to use illegal routes.
And at the moment, kicking out the people who are already here is just impractical. There are so many, we could spend years and still not make any progress.
I have stated this like a billion times, I AM NOT REPUBLICAN. I just respect them more then the Democrats. All of my co-workers are Democrats, and they are a bunch of gloating fucktards.
I think he was so scared of being called Republican that he had that soring-loaded. The defense was coming whether or not anyone said anything of the sort.
I have stated this like a billion times, I AM NOT REPUBLICAN. I just respect them more then the Democrats. All of my co-workers are Democrats, and they are a bunch of gloating fucktards.
All my co-workers are Democrats... but they also all have PhDs.
Considering how many Republicans have been spamming my facebook page with claims that anyone voting for Obama must be an idiot, I feel like there should be a meme for this... oh yes.
Congrats to Barry O and commiserations to Mittens. Most importantly though, congratulations to me for once again calling another election correctly. I am cool.
I have stated this like a billion times, I AM NOT REPUBLICAN. I just respect them more then the Democrats. All of my co-workers are Democrats, and they are a bunch of gloating fucktards.
Then that pretty much means you are Republican, sorry. In two-party politics you're either one or t'other. If you support a third party you may as well just stay home and watch some M*A*S*H* or something on election day, you'll be every bit as important
unless you live in Florida
Also immigration is just a way of life no matter what laws you pass to the contrary, doubly-so for America obviously. I suggest people the world over no matter where you live just deal w/it and stop looking to the scary foreigners as a scapegoat for other shortcomings of the nation.
All my co-workers are Democrats... but they also all have PhDs.
Whilst Democrats are easily the superior party, in that they're actually willing to make sacrifices for the better, they shouldn't rest on their laurels. There's still a lot of improvement that can go on there, I certainly wouldn't vote for them if they were running over here. But then again i'm a serial ballot spoiler anyway as our main parties are currently awful in the North and our third-parties are woolly-brained, soft-politics, just-wasting-your-time-and-mine tut.
Then that pretty much means you are Republican, sorry. In two-party politics you're either one or t'other. If you support a third party you may as well just stay home and watch some M*A*S*H* or something on election day, you'll be every bit as important
unless you live in Florida
"Two party politics" is usually the case for presidential elections in the United States (I say usually as it is possible for one of the two major parties to lose power to a third party - look at what happened to the Whigs).
Congressional elections are a different matter. There are always third party candidates who win seats in the Senate and/or the House of Representatives (this year being no different - Vermont and Maine at least elected third party Senators, and there's likely to be more as the results aren't in yet for many states).
There are true independent voters out there. I'm personally registered as no party affiliation. I voted for the Republican candidate for president in 2000 and for the Democratic candidate for president in 2008 and 2012 (I didn't vote in 2004 because I was caring full time for my sick grandparents at the time). In all three elections, I voted for both Democrats and Republicans for Senate and the House of Representatives. I base my votes on how the candidate's views align with mine, not on party affiliations (there are many conservative Democrats and liberal Republicans. It's not really so cut and dry as it seems sometimes).
Assuming Obama is a member of these forums and will actually read this, he has my congratulations. It's just a shame that he couldn't gain control of the house of representatives again (Which I'm assuming is just Ike the house of commons over here. Although, I'm still not sure how you can get most of the votes and have a minority). It means it will be harder than ever to push bills through when the US needs decisive action. The republicans are more than likely going to be sour for a few months and be more resistive.
"Two party politics" is usually the case for presidential elections in the United States (I say usually as it is possible for one of the two major parties to lose power to a third party - look at what happened to the Whigs).
Congressional elections are a different matter. There are always third party candidates who win seats in the Senate and/or the House of Representatives (this year being no different - Vermont and Maine at least elected third party Senators, and there's likely to be more as the results aren't in yet for many states).
There are true independent voters out there. I'm personally registered as no party affiliation. I voted for the Republican candidate for president in 2000 and for the Democratic candidate for president in 2008 and 2012 (I didn't vote in 2004 because I was caring full time for my sick grandparents at the time). In all three elections, I voted for both Democrats and Republicans for Senate and the House of Representatives. I base my votes on how the candidate's views align with mine, not on party affiliations (there are many conservative Democrats and liberal Republicans. It's not really so cut and dry as it seems sometimes).
Your congressman or senator's going to be able to do a lot more for you locally than Mr. President, I totally get that. I'm a big-picture kind of guy however and I don't really trust politicians to do anything but to tow the party line when their back's against the wall, that's why they invented party whips I guess, to discourage independent thought on an institutionalised level.
With the way modern politics is run you need a hell of a lot of money and backers to stand any real chance of doing anything significant. There'll always be a few outlying states/constituencies that'll elect third-party or independent representatives and that's brilliant, but it's really the exception to the rule. Independents can never hope to have campaign trails, media coverage or hands on deck that the Dems and the GOP have or Labour and Tory or Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael, untill reforms are made to the wild west attitude most nations have to party funding we'll never see the rise of the independent representative on a large-scale.
I'm still not sure how you can get most of the votes and have a minority). It means it will be harder than ever to push bills through when the US needs decisive action. The republicans are more than likely going to be sour for a few months and be more resistive.
First-past-the-post baby. The thing is that its best feature IMO is that it creates strong governments, there's no point in the people electing someone to do a job only to have the losers stopping them from getting any work done. Yet in the US this is not the case because of checks and balances. In the UK this was traditionally was the case but now we have this coalition government. hardly matters anyway, the Lib Dems sold out at the first whiff of power, the Lords filibustering bad policy is our only protection from the Torys at this point.
When people say "I'm not voting since my vote obviously doesn't count", they obviously don't think about the fact that we're not just voting on politicians at the federal level. We're also voting for local politicians, for amendments to our states' constitutions, and for projects/taxes which directly affect our county or city.
It's more than just voting for the President and the federal Congress.
This is not counting Florida for some reason. Florida has 29 electoral votes and is leading for Obama by 46,000 votes, so add that to Obama's total number.
When people to say "I'm not voting since my vote obviously doesn't count", they obviously don't think about the fact that we're not just voting on politicians at the federal level. We're also voting for local politicians, for amendments to our states' constitutions, and for projects/taxes which directly affect our county or city.
It's more than just voting for the President and the federal Congress.
The only local proposition on our ballot was one to grant our district money for library funding, and that was hidden on the back of the ballot... can't say I really liked that. They told my mom about it when she asked how the ballot worked, but when I told her about it she said she didn't understand what they meant and wished she had voted for it. I'm sure she's not the only one who didn't even know that proposition was there.
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Yeah man, the Monte Carlo formula is a freaking lockbox.
First of all, the immigrants are practically ruining the country’s economy by taking the jobs that were reserved for actual Americans with actual citizenship.
According to a review of U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics and Census Bureau data, legal and illegal immigrants gained over a million additional jobs between 2008 and 2010 even as millions of American citizens were losing their jobs during that same time period.
Another thing, the government really doesn’t really give a damn. Thanks to the negligence of the federal government, far more people move into the United States illegally than come in through the legal immigration process.
Also, immigrants are given free insurance and don’t have to pay taxes. Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with people these days? They’re giving special stuff to the people who shouldn’t even be allowed to live here (i’m not racist), and saying ‘fuck you’ to the people who are actually from this country? Come on!
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also my mom is an immigrant and she is legal and just as much of an american as anyone else.
this country is based entirely off immigrants.
however if we're talking about illegal immigrants, they're doing the job NOBODY ELSE wants to do and "actual americans" are hiring them, even to the point of telling them to come over here, despite knowing that they're illegal so they they don't have to follow guidelines or pay them a proper wage.
not having a living wage and working in completely unsafe and inhospitable circumstances is something to be envied and we should all want that for ourselves.
that's totally the fault of immigration.
This same stuff was said about the Chinese, Japanese, Irish, etc etc etc throughout every period in history when Americans felt like they weren't getting a fair deal. Read some damn history. You know when this country had its highest levels of success? In the 50s and 60s, when the top tax rate was 91%. Maybe that's a bigger factor behind why we're having economic troubles.
And FYI? It's never right to call for people to be electrocuted. It's wrong Republicans insinuated Obama was Muslim, first because he's not, and second because IT WOULD NOT MATTER.
And at the moment, kicking out the people who are already here is just impractical. There are so many, we could spend years and still not make any progress.
All my co-workers are Democrats... but they also all have PhDs.
Considering how many Republicans have been spamming my facebook page with claims that anyone voting for Obama must be an idiot, I feel like there should be a meme for this... oh yes.
I'm always curious to see how the flip side would have turned out. Let him have his fifteen minutes, I say.
This would be one of the most amazing moments in political history.
Well, at least you'd have a cellmate.
Uhhh that's already Lex Luthor.
And oh god, I almost posted this as "Sexcretary of Defense".
colorado and washington are projected to legalize weed. washington is projected to get same sex marriage.
oregon on the other hand probably isn't going to legalize weed
someone on my facebook said that if we legalize weed they'll start putting chemicals in it like cigarettes
for some reason
even though that makes no sense at all
That sounds like the people on my facebook wall!
Then that pretty much means you are Republican, sorry. In two-party politics you're either one or t'other. If you support a third party you may as well just stay home and watch some M*A*S*H* or something on election day, you'll be every bit as important
Also immigration is just a way of life no matter what laws you pass to the contrary, doubly-so for America obviously. I suggest people the world over no matter where you live just deal w/it and stop looking to the scary foreigners as a scapegoat for other shortcomings of the nation.
Whilst Democrats are easily the superior party, in that they're actually willing to make sacrifices for the better, they shouldn't rest on their laurels. There's still a lot of improvement that can go on there, I certainly wouldn't vote for them if they were running over here. But then again i'm a serial ballot spoiler anyway as our main parties are currently awful in the North and our third-parties are woolly-brained, soft-politics, just-wasting-your-time-and-mine tut.
Congressional elections are a different matter. There are always third party candidates who win seats in the Senate and/or the House of Representatives (this year being no different - Vermont and Maine at least elected third party Senators, and there's likely to be more as the results aren't in yet for many states).
There are true independent voters out there. I'm personally registered as no party affiliation. I voted for the Republican candidate for president in 2000 and for the Democratic candidate for president in 2008 and 2012 (I didn't vote in 2004 because I was caring full time for my sick grandparents at the time). In all three elections, I voted for both Democrats and Republicans for Senate and the House of Representatives. I base my votes on how the candidate's views align with mine, not on party affiliations (there are many conservative Democrats and liberal Republicans. It's not really so cut and dry as it seems sometimes).
Your congressman or senator's going to be able to do a lot more for you locally than Mr. President, I totally get that. I'm a big-picture kind of guy however and I don't really trust politicians to do anything but to tow the party line when their back's against the wall, that's why they invented party whips I guess, to discourage independent thought on an institutionalised level.
With the way modern politics is run you need a hell of a lot of money and backers to stand any real chance of doing anything significant. There'll always be a few outlying states/constituencies that'll elect third-party or independent representatives and that's brilliant, but it's really the exception to the rule. Independents can never hope to have campaign trails, media coverage or hands on deck that the Dems and the GOP have or Labour and Tory or Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael, untill reforms are made to the wild west attitude most nations have to party funding we'll never see the rise of the independent representative on a large-scale.
First-past-the-post baby. The thing is that its best feature IMO is that it creates strong governments, there's no point in the people electing someone to do a job only to have the losers stopping them from getting any work done. Yet in the US this is not the case because of checks and balances. In the UK this was traditionally was the case but now we have this coalition government. hardly matters anyway, the Lib Dems sold out at the first whiff of power, the Lords filibustering bad policy is our only protection from the Torys at this point.
It's more than just voting for the President and the federal Congress.
This is not counting Florida for some reason. Florida has 29 electoral votes and is leading for Obama by 46,000 votes, so add that to Obama's total number.
The only local proposition on our ballot was one to grant our district money for library funding, and that was hidden on the back of the ballot... can't say I really liked that. They told my mom about it when she asked how the ballot worked, but when I told her about it she said she didn't understand what they meant and wished she had voted for it. I'm sure she's not the only one who didn't even know that proposition was there.