Because people saw some kind of redemption by him wanting to get dropped. Also the pressure of actually having to drop him vs just leaving him to walkers got to people. Their morals took over and they couldn't bring themselves to do it.
Because, people thought he'd really redeem himself this time.
And, even though I dropped him, I'm sure he'd try, but I've no reason to believe that his big attempt at redemption won't screw over the group again. Ben's problem is that he acts without thinking at all, taking hatchets from the only door keeping the walkers away from you is his genuine attempt at helping, as long as he has that flaw he'll be a danger no matter how much he tries to help.
I think Clem played a role in that decision too, a lot of people are carrying a lot about her (maybe too much in my opinion) and she is on Ben's side so I suppose they couldn't let Ben die because of this.
There's people that didn't take part of the "killing Ben" and maybe didn't dislike him even if he caused lot of problems.
I made the decision to protect Clem. I never told her Id do it her way. She can think Im wrong and even hate me, but if shes safe, them my mission is complete.
Bearing in mind that no matter what I do , she goes missing either way
As much as I hate him and his useless ass, I can sympathise because he's only a kid and I think he's one of the more realistic characters. How many of us are equipped to dealing with a zombie apocalypse if such a thing was to happen? Not many, I don't think. Most of us would screw up somewhere, one way or another. He's just a mega clutz and a bit of a moron, but his heart is in the right place. That's all that matters to me.
When it came to the decision, it was not a tough one. I'm willing to give him another chance.. and hell, nobody deserves a death like that. Well, maybe the St. John family.
I was exactly like that. I hated Ben with a passion. Infact I was hoping nobody else would get to rob me of the chance to kill him myself.
When it finally came down to it I once again failed to fight my own morals of trying to help everyone with a lick of a chance. I think it made it even harder because he was actually asking for death. Whatever his final wish was, I wasn't going to honor it.
I failed to follow my own morals of trying to help everyone. Helped kill Larry because he never could have been saved in my mind, and it still hurt. My Lee puts the survival of Clementine, followed by the group as a whole, more than any single life. I saw Ben the same way I saw Larry. He couldn't be saved, and trying to save him would immediately put more lives in peril. It's hard being the "needs of the many" kind of Lee that I see mine as. In Episode 1 I was all "nobody else dies!" and all that, and even in 2 my first instinct was "help the stupid kids and the guy in the bear-trap even though the walkers are here". Man, how my Lee has changed since then.
Haha! Well, I hated him most of the game, too, and I was certainly mean to him when given dialogue choices. But I play the game in a "what would I do" sort of way and quite honestly, I don't think I could just drop him, stupid or not. I'm glad I didn't drop him, though. One less hand to help if I did. Hopefully I don't regret it in Episode 5...
I never had the intention of killing Ben. These are my reasons why:
- Ben never did anything to intentionally cause harm to the group. Most of his ideas... albiet bad, he thought he was helping the group. He should have consulted people before doing things.
- He is young. He already lost all his classmates. No telling about his family.
- Even though he made a bunch of bad decisions. That doesn't mean he is completely useless. Everyone deserves a chance of redemption. (Well some, depending on the circumstances.)
- He had some information that enlightened the group about how the zombies come back to life. He mentioned no matter how you die, bitten or not. You will still come back. Which was unaware to everyone at the time.
- Clementine liked him. And most of MY decisions revolved around how she felt. Some times it may not have been wise. But I did promise to help find her parents.
- Ben isn't hostile and unfriendly like some of the past members of the team. I'd rather have him than Larry around.
- We already lost 6 people (Carley, Katjaa, Duck, Chuck, Brie and Lily) Even though we just recently met Chuck and Brie, its still a loss. What would be the point of killing someone else?
- Lastly he looked absolutely pitiful and remorseful whenever he did something wrong. Especially when he was begging to be dropped. I just feel he has yet to prove his worth. I have a feeling he will!
Those are my reasons. You can agree to them or not. But I'm not heartless enough to drop someone especially after hearing them beg to be dropped.
Ben is the very definition of a Jonah - but I couldn't drop him and so, I have cursed my game and doomed my entire group to a depressing and gruesome fate.
"Gee Clem, I dunno where Ben is. The last I saw him, we were out on the back of the loco duscussing the bandit attack on the motel and how he wished it had gone better for us.."
I wanted Ben dead that much I didnt even bother to shoot the zombie that had hold of him , it was only playing it on a second save did I know about the whole conversation with Ben on the end of your arm thing . It did bother me though (not Bens death) that after I didnt shoot the zombie when I got back with the gang Kenny turns and says "Lee did what he had to" I was left thinking , eh I didnt kill him I just didnt take the shot (of course after playing a second time I realised I had been clubbed with those who dropped Ben) and then In turn I have to lie to Clem (unless of course you want to tell her that you wanted Ben dead) and say I did my best to save him . So on the third save I saved him to see that outcome , Save 1 : Lee and Kenny (he doesnt know I'm bit) . Save 2 : Lee , Omid and Christa (this save was based on helping Lilly and Kennys pissed at me , I've shown the bite) Save 3 : Lee , Kenny , Omid , Christa (and finally) Ben , I had Kenny bro speech on this save a nde I've shown the bite on this also . Basically I think if you show the bite Omid and Christa come with you if you dont they wont they say Omid is too unfit because they dont know youre injured they think you can cope looking for Clem on your own . Kenny will come if youve been siding with him through the game and well Ben will come (thats if you want him to) if you can be bothered to save him in the first place .
People say a lot on the internet, but in the end, getting rid of Ben is different to many other games. To have him leave, the player would have to become an outright murderer, a path many people (including me) weren't willing to go. I took a few seconds, looked Ben in the eyes, and even though I told him to leave the group a few minutes earlier, I always knew I'd pull him up.
I never had the intention of killing Ben. These are my reasons why:
- Ben never did anything to intentionally cause harm to the group. Most of his ideas... albiet bad, he thought he was helping the group. He should have consulted people before doing things.
- He is young. He already lost all his classmates. No telling about his family.
- Even though he made a bunch of bad decisions. That doesn't mean he is completely useless. Everyone deserves a chance of redemption. (Well some, depending on the circumstances.)
- He had some information that enlightened the group about how the zombies come back to life. He mentioned no matter how you die, bitten or not. You will still come back. Which was unaware to everyone at the time.
- Clementine liked him. And most of MY decisions revolved around how she felt. Some times it may not have been wise. But I did promise to help find her parents.
- Ben isn't hostile and unfriendly like some of the past members of the team. I'd rather have him than Larry around.
- We already lost 6 people (Carley, Katjaa, Duck, Chuck, Brie and Lily) Even though we just recently met Chuck and Brie, its still a loss. What would be the point of killing someone else?
- Lastly he looked absolutely pitiful and remorseful whenever he did something wrong. Especially when he was begging to be dropped. I just feel he has yet to prove his worth. I have a feeling he will!
Those are my reasons. You can agree to them or not. But I'm not heartless enough to drop someone especially after hearing them beg to be dropped.
7 if you count Molly. According to the voice actor of Molly, she did not do any voice acting for episode 5 which means she is either not in the game or if she is it would be a non speaking cameo. And if you left Clementine at the house and you failed to shoot the zombie in the head, she will be left for dead and basically confirmed to have been killed as well. (When Clementine asks what happened to Molly, there is a truth option as well as a lie option. The truth is "she died" while the lie is "she left")
I don't want to kill off any main character so that's why I saved Ben. That's also why I brought Lilly with me to the RV, saved Molly, and stayed neutral in the Ben & Carley argument.
I killed Jolene because she looked crazy and killed Danny because he thought I would let him live to eat off of him, but everyone else I found no reason to kill. That woman who was going to get eaten by walkers I didn't kill because that would attract the walkers to me and I didn't kill Andy because everyone was watching. I also told Carley not to give the infected woman the gun because that would've been messed up. I told Kenny to kill Duck as I felt that was a parent's duty while I thought he shouldn't kill the zombie boy because he was already emotionally disturbed as he was and didn't want to make it worse.
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Not me though, I'm a heartless bastard
And, even though I dropped him, I'm sure he'd try, but I've no reason to believe that his big attempt at redemption won't screw over the group again. Ben's problem is that he acts without thinking at all, taking hatchets from the only door keeping the walkers away from you is his genuine attempt at helping, as long as he has that flaw he'll be a danger no matter how much he tries to help.
There's people that didn't take part of the "killing Ben" and maybe didn't dislike him even if he caused lot of problems.
ever played castlevania symphony of the night?
"what is a man?, just a miserable pile of secrets!" dracula said that
it suddenly hits them they have to choose, unlike any other media that deals with death, a game is something you control.
so it then becomes a moral decision.
Bearing in mind that no matter what I do , she goes missing either way
People can change their minds, ya know.
When it came to the decision, it was not a tough one. I'm willing to give him another chance.. and hell, nobody deserves a death like that. Well, maybe the St. John family.
When it finally came down to it I once again failed to fight my own morals of trying to help everyone with a lick of a chance. I think it made it even harder because he was actually asking for death. Whatever his final wish was, I wasn't going to honor it.
I didn't want to drop him because That wouldn't be a proper death! He should be eaten alive by walkers.
- Ben never did anything to intentionally cause harm to the group. Most of his ideas... albiet bad, he thought he was helping the group. He should have consulted people before doing things.
- He is young. He already lost all his classmates. No telling about his family.
- Even though he made a bunch of bad decisions. That doesn't mean he is completely useless. Everyone deserves a chance of redemption. (Well some, depending on the circumstances.)
- He had some information that enlightened the group about how the zombies come back to life. He mentioned no matter how you die, bitten or not. You will still come back. Which was unaware to everyone at the time.
- Clementine liked him. And most of MY decisions revolved around how she felt. Some times it may not have been wise. But I did promise to help find her parents.
- Ben isn't hostile and unfriendly like some of the past members of the team. I'd rather have him than Larry around.
- We already lost 6 people (Carley, Katjaa, Duck, Chuck, Brie and Lily) Even though we just recently met Chuck and Brie, its still a loss. What would be the point of killing someone else?
- Lastly he looked absolutely pitiful and remorseful whenever he did something wrong. Especially when he was begging to be dropped. I just feel he has yet to prove his worth. I have a feeling he will!
Those are my reasons. You can agree to them or not. But I'm not heartless enough to drop someone especially after hearing them beg to be dropped.
I would save him no question
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7 if you count Molly. According to the voice actor of Molly, she did not do any voice acting for episode 5 which means she is either not in the game or if she is it would be a non speaking cameo. And if you left Clementine at the house and you failed to shoot the zombie in the head, she will be left for dead and basically confirmed to have been killed as well. (When Clementine asks what happened to Molly, there is a truth option as well as a lie option. The truth is "she died" while the lie is "she left")
I killed Jolene because she looked crazy and killed Danny because he thought I would let him live to eat off of him, but everyone else I found no reason to kill. That woman who was going to get eaten by walkers I didn't kill because that would attract the walkers to me and I didn't kill Andy because everyone was watching. I also told Carley not to give the infected woman the gun because that would've been messed up. I told Kenny to kill Duck as I felt that was a parent's duty while I thought he shouldn't kill the zombie boy because he was already emotionally disturbed as he was and didn't want to make it worse.