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One thing I don't get...

Stevean2115Stevean2115
edited November 2012 in The Walking Dead
And that is, Why the hell are Lee's group calling Zombie's Zombies?

Kirkman stated in his universe George A Romero's work didn't exist, so people choudnt use the word "Zombies" hence why there dubbed "Walkers"

but Why do Both Lee and Larry Call them "Zombies" seems like a big error to me..

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  • King Cam72King Cam72
    edited November 2012
    Most likely an oversight.
  • Master of AeonsMaster of Aeons
    edited November 2012
    The term even exists in the comics. It's just not the specific go-to term like it is in this world. You can expect to see it pop up sometimes.
  • BlankCanvasDJBlankCanvasDJ
    edited November 2012
    I think when Kirkman says that the Romero movies don't exist in the TWD universe, he just means that the characters are unaware of the typical tropes of a zombie movie. They don't know the things about zombies that we've learned from pop culture, like a bit being lethal and turning you, or needing to destroy the brain. But Romero didn't invent the word "zombie". He certainly may have given new life (heh) to the term but it had been in use for a while before Night of the Living Dead. Romero didn't even invent the first zombie film. That honor probably goes to "White Zombie" with Bela Lugosi all the way back in 1932.

    So the characters may be unaware of zombie fiction as we know it, but that doesn't mean they don't know the concept or word "zombie".
  • rachellouise85rachellouise85
    edited November 2012
    In the bits at the back of the comic,it says they /do/have zombie fiction etc, unlike /other/ zombie stories where the people have never heard of them before. Pretty sure of that,I read someone say they don't, so when I saw this bit, I read it a few times. Rick does refer to them as zombies,but says it feels weird or something. They're then classified as roamers, lurkers and the placid zombies by him, at least in the comic. Don't know about the tv show^-^
  • cormorancormoran
    edited November 2012
    Keep in mind that I don't think Romero movies exist in the Romero universe too so you could also ask why his characters call them zombies.
  • BlankCanvasDJBlankCanvasDJ
    edited November 2012
    Point.
  • mkane24mkane24
    edited November 2012
    Stevean2115 wrote: »
    And that is, Why the hell are Lee's group calling Zombie's Zombies?

    Kirkman stated in his universe George A Romero's work didn't exist, so people choudnt use the word "Zombies" hence why there dubbed "Walkers"

    but Why do Both Lee and Larry Call them "Zombies" seems like a big error to me..

    Romero didn't create the concept of a zombie, he just made it mainstream. some religions like voodoo and other crazy Caribbean cultures think you can bring the dead back to life.


    Plus...Romero didn't make the first zombie film.
  • ChickenmanChickenman
    edited November 2012
    mkane24 wrote: »
    Romero didn't create the concept of a zombie, he just made it mainstream. some religions like voodoo and other crazy Caribbean cultures think you can bring the dead back to life.


    Plus...Romero didn't make the first zombie film.

    It's not just some religions like 'voodoo and crazy Caribbean cultures' that think you can bring the dead back to life. Look at Christianity in general. After all, we now have a holiday devoted to a 'Zombie'. Admittedly, the holiday was acquired from the Pagans, but that is a conversation for another day.
  • DreadMagusDreadMagus
    edited November 2012
    cormoran wrote: »
    Keep in mind that I don't think Romero movies exist in the Romero universe too so you could also ask why his characters call them zombies.

    I think we have a winner here.
  • shammackshammack Former Telltale Staff
    edited November 2012
    Etymology of zombie:
    1871, of W. African origin (cf. Kikongo zumbi "fetish;" Kimbundu nzambi "god"), originally the name of a snake god, later with meaning "reanimated corpse" in voodoo cult. But perhaps also from Louisiana creole word meaning "phantom, ghost," from Sp. sombra "shade, ghost." Sense "slow-witted person" is recorded from 1936.

    Who knows how widespread the term would be if it hadn't been popularized in zombie movies, but it certainly existed before they did.

    I personally find the "walker" business irritating and I'm sad that it made it into the games at all. It would have been nice if that had just been a quirk of Rick's group in particular, rather than two separate groups coincidentally deciding to make up the same new term even though a perfectly good one already exists. Ah well.
  • trd84trd84
    edited November 2012
    shammack wrote: »
    I personally find the "walker" business irritating and I'm sad that it made it into the games at all. It would have been nice if that had just been a quirk of Rick's group in particular, rather than two separate groups coincidentally deciding to make up the same new term even though a perfectly good one already exists. Ah well.

    Yeah this bugged me too.
  • WargeWarge
    edited November 2012
    shammack wrote: »
    I personally find the "walker" business irritating and I'm sad that it made it into the games at all. It would have been nice if that had just been a quirk of Rick's group in particular, rather than two separate groups coincidentally deciding to make up the same new term even though a perfectly good one already exists. Ah well.

    Agreed - that's why Molly was a nice refresher with her term 'geeks'. Personally I think that the terms 'dead' or derivates of that word (like 'deadites') would probably be the most common, especially if the z-word is supposed to be banned in general in media dealing with zombies.
  • tobartobar
    edited November 2012
    Chickenman wrote: »
    It's not just some religions like 'voodoo and crazy Caribbean cultures' that think you can bring the dead back to life. Look at Christianity in general. After all, we now have a holiday devoted to a 'Zombie'.

    Incorrect. There is a difference between resurrection and reanimation.

    shammack wrote: »
    I personally find the "walker" business irritating and I'm sad that it made it into the games at all. It would have been nice if that had just been a quirk of Rick's group in particular, rather than two separate groups coincidentally deciding to make up the same new term even though a perfectly good one already exists. Ah well.

    Glenn was in both groups.
  • Saoralba131Saoralba131
    edited November 2012
    "I personally find the "walker" business irritating and I'm sad that it made it into the games at all. It would have been nice if that had just been a quirk of Rick's group in particular, rather than two separate groups coincidentally deciding to make up the same new term even though a perfectly good one already exists. Ah well."

    It is in the comic universe though and don't they call them roamers most of the time at least?
  • DevlonirDevlonir
    edited November 2012
    tobar wrote: »
    Glenn was in both groups.
    Yet Glenn, at least TV Glenn, is actually heard calling them Molly's term "Geeks" once as well..
  • stevean2stevean2
    edited November 2012
    Thanks for the answers guys xD I sure didnt hope to create a massive debate about the word zombie but eh :D I understand now.
  • trd84trd84
    edited November 2012
    tobar wrote: »
    Glenn was in both groups.

    Lee calls them Walkers before he meets Glenn. And didn't Rick get walkers from Morgan?
  • DreadMagusDreadMagus
    edited November 2012
    Does it really matter?

    You can't really expect one person to be the sole inventor of a generic word used to describe walking corpses.
  • Master of AeonsMaster of Aeons
    edited November 2012
    "Look at all them Jesuses!"
    "Don't let that Jesus bite you!"
    "Jesus, Lee turned into a Jesus!"
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