Well would you do the same for a baby if it was crying? It is a tough choice to make.
As far as we know (going by TWD zombies) only humans are effected by the virus that causes zombification after death. The animals are immune to the bites and quite a lot of dogs should be able to escape a human or two if they need to with the cost of getting a few injuries. Some dogs are intellegent enough to know when it's time to fight or run and I think you could probably teach a dog or it will learn on it's own that barking or growling at the dead humans has no effect and will only cause more danger so will avoid doing so and most likely stay quiet if it's owner or whoever it's protecting is staying quiet.
I think it's possible you'd be able to have a dog with you in a ZA depending on it's breed, Chihauhuas would most likely not be all that much use even if it's trained to be quiet but a larger protective dog like a Retriever, Doberman, German Shepard or Rotweiller would not only have a more fighting chance and better odds of escaping but if it's got a close enough bond to it's group it would do just about anything to help by protecting young children or being able to alert it's owners of danger due to being able to smell or hear the dead much earlier than we'd be able to.
Damn, I was just about to mention the baby crying and dogs not being able to be infected in TWD world
I personally don't think that being a human means that you are any better than a dog or cat. I would not kill another survivor just if they were a burden, and I would not kill any dogs or cats as I was raised to love them lol
Damn, I was just about to mention the baby crying and dogs not being able to be infected in TWD world
I personally don't think that being a human means that you are any better than a dog or cat. I would not kill another survivor just if they were a burden, and I would not kill any dogs or cats as I was raised to love them lol
Glad someone else at least thought about such things.
When society is all but gone and civilisation is in ruins then we really would be no different to the animals, we're just trying to survive all the same. If possible farm and domestic animals would still be pretty valuable with correct protection and training. If we're able to rely on one another for survival then we could help one another out a lot, the animals would have their natural instincts, loyalty and better overall senses (and possibly immunity to the bites) while the human members of the group would be able to function remaining technology and fire arms for protection aswell as being able to fortify areas for safety.
If you have kids killing and eating your family pet isn't good for your (or kids) mental health. I would do it if we were starved but then eating the fucking dog will only help for about a day with food then what??? kids next? I mean I know it's a dog and not a person but I AM A PERSON and eating your dog IS just as bad as eating some survivor thats a stranger. Tell the military you killed and ate your dog...they will proly put you down with the walkers cuz it's not ok....NOT! whatever I'm dumb and would proly die but at least I would still have my humanity....jesus.
This is my last post on these forums. what the fuck. Not having fun talking about killing my dog...gave me fucking nightmares. Hope you all enjoy the 5th episode and have a happy thanksgiving. Peace out;)
Ok wait, its the ZA right? So uh your worried about your kids mental health over killing the family dog to keep them alive? Not the walking dead people trying to eat them alive. I am sure at that point killing the family pet is going to effect them a whole lot less then grandma eatting their face because fido started barking at her.
It's much easier to survive a Zombie Apocalipse if you live in apartments. Zombies can't use elevators and there would be no real motive for a horde to invade and use the stairs of your building unless they were chasing you. But if you stay inside your apartment they will never find you. You will just have to leave now and then to grab supplies.
My point wasn't that killing the dog was bad but if you read the original poster it then goes on to say eating the meat. If my dog was a danger then some poison and a burial. My disgust wasn't that people would kill their dog but at the start of ZA if you still got gas/electricity and such and you decide to kill cook and eat your dog then you aren't human. I mean zombies eat people not food, go to a store before you resort to killing things in home for food.
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Wasn't trying to be so harsh but turning cannibal to survive zombies is hardly surviving at all IMO
Sorry if I offended anyone but I took offense to people eating their pups;)
repost. not horrible to kill a animal that threatens your safety but EAT IT??? wtf people...wtf
Why should pets be treated any differently to humans? It's a bit disgraceful that anybody would think a dogs life isn't worth as much as a human being's.
Tbh I am shocked that so many people would slaughter their own pet.
Dogs don't talk, they don't think, it's an animal -- not a person.
I guess it depends on your prior relationship with animals, if you have pets, etc.
I didn't grow up with pets, nor do I have any, so I don't have much of an attachment to them. It would be a no-brainer for me.
It's much easier to survive a Zombie Apocalipse if you live in apartments. Zombies can't use elevators and there would be no real motive for a horde to invade and use the stairs of your building unless they were chasing you. But if you stay inside your apartment they will never find you. You will just have to leave now and then to grab supplies.
Slippery slope if they manage to get in. I live in a community, apartment-like setting and it would be near impossible to get out. Ugh... don't want to think about it.
Dogs don't talk, they don't think, it's an animal -- not a person.
They do talk and they do think. Just not how you'd expect.
They talk with their body language. Also, dogs can have fun, be bored, be sad, be happy, even love to some extent. Did you know that there is a variety of psychological issues a dog can have?
I'd keep my dog. She never barks anyway, but she's very vigilant - she could warn us of any impending dangers, using her far superior senses of hearing and smelling. Feeding her won't be much of a problem, as dogs could probably stomach a dead walker much better than a human could.
When you get yourself a pet, you agree to care for it as much as you possibly could. For me, that would also extend into a ZA scenario.
They do talk and they do think. Just not how you'd expect.
They talk with their body language. Also, dogs can have fun, be bored, be sad, be happy, even love to some extent. Did you know that there is a variety of psychological issues a dog can have?
I'd keep my dog. She never barks anyway, but she's very vigilant - she could warn us of any impending dangers, using her far superior senses of hearing and smelling. Feeding her won't be much of a problem, as dogs could probably stomach a dead walker much better than a human could.
When you get yourself a pet, you agree to care for it as much as you possibly could. For me, that would also extend into a ZA scenario.
Way I understand it the Zombie Virus is passed through body fluid transfer. When they bite you its the saliva and blood that gets in your wound that will kill you not so much the rotten teeth. Same if they scratch you or when you are fighting one getting a bunch of dead ozzing flesh in your mouth. So if you feed your pet the zombie meat they have a high chance of becoming zombie pets. Which can be cute until they eat you in your sleep or that 100 lbs dog you keep for protection tackles you and rips your throat out.
Best bet is to hide in a old folks home for a few days until the main body of the zombies have moved on. Then get out of the citys with as much food and water as you can. I say old folks home because they have a butt load of meds at most of them in case they get hurt or fall down. Food to last a good bit until the power goes out and maybe alittle longer. There is alot of rooms that can be shared, which also gives alot of dressers, tables, and other things to break up to block windows and doors. Other note is alot of the retired men are WW2 and vietnam vets and they will take a zombie in a heart beat. Real danger is those who are not doing well health and mentaly before all this happened. Oh and there is sure to be one person who keeps calling you their grandchild.
If it was for my survival I would eat your puppy labrator. The flesh is probably soft and tender.
If it was for my family's survival (dog included) I'd shoot out both your knees and then feed you to my dog St. John style. You wanted to eat him....enjoy while I cook you up for his soft and tender ass.
BTW proly not but I'd fucking headshot you in a sec and claim walker by the door;) also you would be in a one person group considering your thoughts feeling so You would never get out of your neighbor hood anyhow.
Cannibals should become live bait. strung up around the city so they attract the zombies and other people/decent people can walk safely.
I'd release my cat into the wild, where he's in his element. He can hide up trees from zombies and would probably find a cat-group.
My dog is getting old anyway, so she probably wouldn't last long. I'd muzzle her to stop her barking, and try to keep her safe as long as possible.
If it was for my family's survival (dog included) I'd shoot out both your knees and then feed you to my dog St. John style. You wanted to eat him....enjoy while I cook you up for his soft and tender ass.
BTW proly not but I'd fucking headshot you in a sec and claim walker by the door;) also you would be in a one person group considering your thoughts feeling so You would never get out of your neighbor hood anyhow.
Cannibals should become live bait. strung up around the city so they attract the zombies and other people/decent people can walk safely.
Human eating Dog =/= Cannibal. No matter your feelings the word 'Cannibal' has a very specific meaning.
Dogs don't talk, they don't think, it's an animal -- not a person.
That is seriously the dumbest thing I have ever heard. You think only humans think and communicate? I am afraid to ask what school system produced you.
Human eating Dog =/= Cannibal. No matter your feelings the word 'Cannibal' has a very specific meaning.
Well if someone is willing to eat a dog at the start of the ZA where does it go from there. only so many dogs before you look elsewhere. I'm thinking these dog eaters are on a stepping stone to becoming cannibals. It starts somewhere and I think thats the jumping off point. Once you kill and eat something like that you would rationalize it and anything else you had to do to survive
My question is at what point should a person go I shouldn't do this, this is too far?
Seems like many on here would rather survive than actually live. I would rather live for a few months and be killed, the eating dogs and whatever else (see the would you kill a baby thread) is surviving but it is very far from living.
YOU ARE THE WALKING DEAD!(not to the person i commented on but to whoever this goes to...you know who you are:() out
Would I eat dog meat if it meant not starving to death? Probably. Would I kill my dog and eat its flesh, even if I were starving to death? No.
When I think about my actions I would take in a ZA (or anything that would bring civilization to its knees, really), I consider what my actions would do to my mental state. I'm not going to do something that would greatly upset me if at all possible, because then I'd be of little use until I get over it, or worse yet I could just go batshit crazy. In both of those scenarios I'm not very well going to be much help to anyone or myself, so why would I put myself in such a scenario?
If I were starving to death, but still had my dog (whom would obviously also be starving to death), I'd rather risk my life and go try to find food (even if it would be a poor decision) than eat my own dog, lest risking my mental health.
Humans developed penicillin, landed on the moon, invented every device you use through your day, and generally can eat any other creature on the planet.
When your box of puppies cures cancer, then your argument will be valid.
Until then, I'm not "pretty" sure I'm superior to animals, I know I am.
...man, when the ZA hits, there's going to be a LOT of hippie zombies...
Edit: Oh, and fact: if you were to die in a contained space, your cat would start eating you within twelve hours. Fact.
Beat the cat to the punch...
This response cracks me up. All those wasted words typed and you totally miss the point. You dont seem to understand that Technology and Progress are NOT the same thing and never have been.
Everything you mention is superficial, materialistic in nature, and honestly, quite ignorant.
Penicillin is a naturally occurring extract of bread mold which humans discovered totally by accident by Alexander Fleming, not "developed" as you so mistakenly put it.
Landing on the moon...BIG DEAL! Wow, we sure helped the universe out by landing on the moon. What good has it done to benefit the planet? The people? NONE. Only benefactors are big corporations hellbent on weapons production and profit margins. Do you think there might be a reason why they have never gone back?
Then Mr. genius calls on the "devices" we use everyday as if these cheap chinese slave goods are somehow a measure in the improvement of the human condition! Wowee! We cant balance budgets, can't live one day without constant warfare, have crooked politicians and banksters destroying the planet, have fukushima radiation spilling into the pacific, yet somehow in your world ,the fact that humans can produce cheap plastic goods filled with chinese electronics makes them superior to all other life on earth! Take a good look at hurricane sandy, those new yorkers were ready to kill each other over a gallon of gasoline.
And for the final insult, you point to the fact that humans can eat all other species as something to hang your hat on. Good job buddy, you can eat all other species and that makes you so special! OMG somebody get this kid some help. Take away the ammo and you are nothing but prey.
A superior species would see that all life is precious. A superior species would understand they exist as only a small part of a larger whole, living synergistically in unison with the resources given to us. A superior species would refuse to be defined by the things they produce but rather whether those devices positively affected the world they live in A superior species would understand that devices and cheap trinkets do not do anything but satiate the materialistic needs of the braindead masses who need these devices to maintain their fancy digital lifestyles inside the matrix.
If anything, your response proves your sector of the human species is dumbed down to the point of being zombies themselves. I can only assume you are a card carrying member. Were you one of the braindead sheeple on black friday? I suppose my video link pissed u off then.
And btw, if you didnt already know this, humans haven't found a cure for cancer either! But then again, dogs would never think of making medicine in the name of profit margins like big pharma.
Way to go dude, good luck with your materialistic existence. I hope your gadgets and devices keep you warm at night. You better hope the electricity stays on so you can keep your dreamworld alive.
Do you see all the hype regarding zombies these days? They are talking about you. YOU are the zombie.
@Moonbaby: I'm not going to exactly say that I'm on either side right now, but both of your arguments are a tad flawed. Yes, some of the things mentioned by Maggard are a tad off for the sake of this discussion, but saying that all achievements humans have ever made doesn't at all show that humans are quite a superior being among those on this planet is a little ignorant.
We humans have our moral flaws (more than enough), but even though I love animals and would never hurt one I'm going to go ahead and say that I'm better than animals. They don't have superior morals, because hell, they don't have morals. Sure they can have emotion, but that is different.
A human life is of more value to me than an animal.
@Moonbaby: I'm not going to exactly say that I'm on either side right now, but both of your arguments are a tad flawed. Yes, some of the things mentioned by Maggard are a tad off for the sake of this discussion, but saying that all achievements humans have ever made doesn't at all show that humans are quite a superior being among those on this planet is a little ignorant.
We humans have our moral flaws (more than enough), but even though I love animals and would never hurt one I'm going to go ahead and say that I'm better than animals. They don't have superior morals, because hell, they don't have morals. Sure they can have emotion, but that is different.
A human life is of more value to me than an animal.
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Yes but in the zombie apocalypse the things that made humans superior to animals for survivability like population, intellect and technology are turned on their head especially when humans are the ones causing the ZA. We are the only ones who can become infected and are all going to turn into them when we die yet no animals can and without our technology and with our death rate getting higher than the birth rate then all the traits that made us better for survival are gone and pretty soon we all just act like savages anyway.
In a zombie apocalypse we are the least likely to survive out of all the animals and so animals and humans are a lot more equal in the worth of their life especially when all humans are fated to become infected. Least that's how I see it. We become equally as valuable in a Zombie apocalypse.
Yes but in the zombie apocalypse the things that made humans superior to animals for survivability like population, intellect and technology are turned on their head especially when humans are the ones causing the ZA. We are the only ones who can become infected and are all going to turn into them when we die yet no animals can and without our technology and with our death rate getting higher than the birth rate then all the traits that made us better for survival are gone and pretty soon we all just act like savages anyway.
In a zombie apocalypse we are the least likely to survive out of all the animals and so animals and humans are a lot more equal in the worth of their life especially when all humans are fated to become infected. Least that's how I see it. We become equally as valuable in a Zombie apocalypse.
Well in terms of survivability, I'd say that the human race alone would have the best chance of survival even with the disease only striking us. Sure, if we counted every animal against humans then the odds would favor them, but we are merely one type of animal ourselves, so it would only be fair to count ourselves against single species as well, and as such I'd think that other than insects or marine mammals (and perhaps birds), we are more likely to survive than any specific species on the planet save a few specific examples due to isolation (like the penguins of Antarctica).
Humans have two things on their side that have always helped them get ahead of the crowd: ingenuity and being a dick. Our crazy ingenuity and problem solving is what got all this way, and being a dick is what helped us get here faster. Against zombies people have the advantage that those smarter people are going to use to devise plans for survival that an animal could never, even if it means being an ass.
Really, being a jerk is an evolutionary advantage. Humans got to where we are now by killing off the other human-like beings (like neanderthals) and becoming the only one allowed to evolve, lest they do the same to us. With the ingenuity of humans as a species, as well as the technology that we now possess, I feel that at some point humans could come out the victors of the zombie apocalypse, and we would do so by staying true to our nature and being a jerk, not playing fairly with them zombies, be it finding a hitherto undiscovered weakness or curing zombie-ism or just getting really good at killing the undead.
This response cracks me up. All those wasted words typed and you totally miss the point. You dont seem to understand that Technology and Progress are NOT the same thing and never have been.
Everything you mention is superficial, materialistic in nature, and honestly, quite ignorant.
Penicillin is a naturally occurring extract of bread mold which humans discovered totally by accident by Alexander Fleming, not "developed" as you so mistakenly put it.
Landing on the moon...BIG DEAL! Wow, we sure helped the universe out by landing on the moon. What good has it done to benefit the planet? The people? NONE. Only benefactors are big corporations hellbent on weapons production and profit margins. Do you think there might be a reason why they have never gone back?
Then Mr. genius calls on the "devices" we use everyday as if these cheap chinese slave goods are somehow a measure in the improvement of the human condition! Wowee! We cant balance budgets, can't live one day without constant warfare, have crooked politicians and banksters destroying the planet, have fukushima radiation spilling into the pacific, yet somehow in your world ,the fact that humans can produce cheap plastic goods filled with chinese electronics makes them superior to all other life on earth! Take a good look at hurricane sandy, those new yorkers were ready to kill each other over a gallon of gasoline.
And for the final insult, you point to the fact that humans can eat all other species as something to hang your hat on. Good job buddy, you can eat all other species and that makes you so special! OMG somebody get this kid some help. Take away the ammo and you are nothing but prey.
A superior species would see that all life is precious. A superior species would understand they exist as only a small part of a larger whole, living synergistically in unison with the resources given to us. A superior species would refuse to be defined by the things they produce but rather whether those devices positively affected the world they live in A superior species would understand that devices and cheap trinkets do not do anything but satiate the materialistic needs of the braindead masses who need these devices to maintain their fancy digital lifestyles inside the matrix.
If anything, your response proves your sector of the human species is dumbed down to the point of being zombies themselves. I can only assume you are a card carrying member. Were you one of the braindead sheeple on black friday? I suppose my video link pissed u off then.
And btw, if you didnt already know this, humans haven't found a cure for cancer either! But then again, dogs would never think of making medicine in the name of profit margins like big pharma.
Way to go dude, good luck with your materialistic existence. I hope your gadgets and devices keep you warm at night. You better hope the electricity stays on so you can keep your dreamworld alive.
Do you see all the hype regarding zombies these days? They are talking about you. YOU are the zombie.
That is definitely the longest set of hippie-blather I have ever read. I lean towards the left and I think those paragraphs made my throw up a little in my mouth.
I never said animals were worthless, and I'm well aware that humans haven't cured cancer. Animals also haven't cured, well, anything...other then roughly 3/4 of Europe's population being eradicated due to the Black Plague (of which rats and fleas are attributed as the carrying vessels).
Superficial? Materialistic? The greatest thing a creature can do is overcome it's limitations to adapt and survive in new settings.
If that means putting down Fido then so be it. Survival of the fittest, is it not?
My section of the human species is dumbed down? Are you unaware that you are debating on a forum about a FICTITIOUS, let alone scientifically impossible event?
It's like me saying I'd just grow wings and fly to avoid zombies...there's as great a chance of that occurring as actual "walkers" chasing me down.
Did I ever mention corporate greed in the medicine industry? NO; but I did point out it wasn't a bonobo to discover penicillin or a duck. It took a human with human motivation and human intelligence.
As for being on equal footing with animals in a zombie apocalypse? Well, humans spent what...roughly two-millions years evolving out of caves along with the neanderthal? Yeah...we progressed and continue to do so because we can learn to kill ANYTHING. That's the real human advantage; we are the best killing creature on the planet because we can develop tools. We are not on equal footing because when I see a walker, I'd shut up. A dog would bark. Humans win again.
The fact that you've wasted so much brain power on your defense of animals versus your own survival shows that you are the kind of individual who would be a human happy meal in a heartbeat (edited to be nice; I don't know you so won't take it to "11", that would be rude).
I'll keep worrying about humanity...I'll never have to stop with people like you out there.
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WD40...thanks for showing that human evolution hasn't railroaded into a brick wall.
That is seriously the dumbest thing I have ever heard. You think only humans think and communicate? I am afraid to ask what school system produced you.
Sure, dogs think, so do bears, and pigs. They think differently, they aren't human and they aren't people. They communicate, but not the same way, it's too different for me to even begin to consider it anything close to the way humans can and do.
I'm afraid to ask what is producing this generation.
Well if someone is willing to eat a dog at the start of the ZA where does it go from there. only so many dogs before you look elsewhere. I'm thinking these dog eaters are on a stepping stone to becoming cannibals. It starts somewhere and I think thats the jumping off point. Once you kill and eat something like that you would rationalize it and anything else you had to do to survive
Eating a dog is no different than eating a cow, both are animals, are you saying more than half the population of the United States are on the verge of being cannibals? Sure, it isn't something that's common or looked on with a smile here, but to say that if someone ate a dog to survive that they would be cannibals is just a baseless assumption.
Okay I seriously signed up just to post this. Here is the straight fact of the matter:
Anyone that has any sort of humanity should try to bring their healthy pets with them. You do not need a muzzle for a loud pet. Simply get some rope or a small belt and tie their mouth. This is assuming you have a well trained pet that would stick beside you rather easily. However, if your pet does not/can not do that then you need to either put them down or release them.
Either of those options are acceptable! If you release them there is the possibility that they won't make it. They is also the possibility that they well. YOU know your pet. I would assume you know the surrounding area where you are. If you believe that your pet doesn't have good survivable skills then you should probably spare them the suffering of starvation or becoming food for zombies or crazy ass people and give them a mercy kill. If there isn't much woods or animals they can hunt around your area you should probably give them a mercy kill.
People were talking about eating their pets. Only if you need to survive. Your survival is key. If it came down to the point where you had to you would do it. If you didn't you would die. Survival trumps everything else. It wouldn't make you a bad person for doing it. It just had to be done. I sure as hell would feel awful about it but it is what it is.
As for people vs. animals debate. Humans are better then animals in the sense of modern technology. It is not opinion, it is not up for debate. It is a fact. You should always choose people over animals simply because we are the same species. The human race needs to keep on going. It can not keep going if you are choosing to save another species over your own. If animals had even a little bit of our intelligent they would surely save their own kind. They must ensure that their species going on living.
To not choose your own species is to doom it. So, unless you want our race to die off, in a ZA go right ahead and choose another over us. Just keep in mind that, that is just more zombies for you to deal with later.
Okay I seriously signed up just to post this. Here is the straight fact of the matter:
Anyone that has any sort of humanity should try to bring their healthy pets with them. You do not need a muzzle for a loud pet. Simply get some rope or a small belt and tie their mouth. This is assuming you have a well trained pet that would stick beside you rather easily. However, if your pet does not/can not do that then you need to either put them down or release them.
Either of those options are acceptable! If you release them there is the possibility that they won't make it. They is also the possibility that they won't. YOU know your pet. I would assume you know the surrounding area where you are. If you believe that your pet doesn't have good survivable skills then you should probably spare them the suffering of starvation or becoming food for zombies or crazy ass people and give them a mercy kill. If there isn't much woods or animals they can hunt around your area you should probably give them a mercy kill.
People were talking about eating their pets. Only if you need to survive. Your survival is key. If it came down to the point where you had to you would do it. If you didn't you would die. Survival trumps everything else. It wouldn't make you a bad person for doing it. It just had to be done. I sure as hell would feel awful about it but it is what it is.
As for people vs. animals debate. Humans are better then animals in the sense of modern technology. It is not opinion, it is not up for debate. It is a fact. You should always choose people over animals simply because we are the same species. The human race needs to keep on going. It can not keep going if you are choosing to save another species over your own. If animals had even a little bit of our intelligent they would surely save their own kind. They must ensure that their species going on living.
To not choose your own species is to doom it. So, unless you want our race to die off, in a ZA go right ahead and choose another over us. Just keep in mind that, that is just more zombies for you to deal with later.
I like you, you understand how I view it and explained it far better than I could.
You'll have a completely different mindset in a ZA. Things you think you would do, things you would never do and things you already do will no doubt change. For better or worse? No one can say.
You should always choose people over animals simply because we are the same species.
Exactly what I thought too. Of course humans are as much a living species than other animals and both should be allowed to live but anyway.
If I would see someone who let a baby die in a fire to safe puppies, this person would also end up in this burning house if I have the possibility. Such reckless persons would be too much danger for my own and my groups survival (if there is one)
About the main topic: Can't vote in the poll, wouldn't spare the life regardless and wouldn't kill it immedeately. Cats have always good survival chances if you let them alone and most of them wouldn't follow you if you go away. So why should I kill the cat if he/she wouldn't follow me on my journey? It would be silly to carry it with you. A dog could be a problem yes but I don't know if they would be really that dangerous. I woudln't stay in a house or in a city, I would go into the wilderness if I have the chance. There it could be a huge benefit if the dog warns me if there is something dangerous for me. Moreover the dog can help hunting. So I don't think that I would kill the dog, only if this is my only chance for survival.
Cats have always good survival chances if you let them alone and most of them wouldn't follow you if you go away. So why should I kill the cat if he/she wouldn't follow me on my journey?
Not every cat is the same. My cat is hopeless on it's own. If you put it outside it will wait the whole day in the garage or around the house until you let it in. I seriously doubt that it would do well on it's own. Some cats are too domesticated, same with some dogs. Pretty sure if I just took off it would be a death sentence for my cat.
So, I would have two choices: Take it with me or put it down. Considering it doesn't follow me very well and carrying it everywhere isn't that much better of an option... well... you get the picture.
I guess I'm a little less concerned for my cat considering it has sharp claws and fangs, though. My poor rabbits would have to be put down. There is 0 chance of them surviving on their own.
If it were possible I would bring them all with me but it's really not. Too many extra mouths to feed and it would be too likely I would lose any of them since both my rabbits and my cat don't know to stick close to me.
Well if someone is willing to eat a dog at the start of the ZA where does it go from there. only so many dogs before you look elsewhere. I'm thinking these dog eaters are on a stepping stone to becoming cannibals. It starts somewhere and I think thats the jumping off point. Once you kill and eat something like that you would rationalize it and anything else you had to do to survive
My question is at what point should a person go I shouldn't do this, this is too far?
Seems like many on here would rather survive than actually live. I would rather live for a few months and be killed, the eating dogs and whatever else (see the would you kill a baby thread) is surviving but it is very far from living.
YOU ARE THE WALKING DEAD!(not to the person i commented on but to whoever this goes to...you know who you are:() out
Wait let me understand this. So people in third world countrys who use dog meat for food so they can keep their familys fed are one step from eatting each other? So does that mean you would not hunt say a deer or a rabbit, or maybe even a cute little hug able panda. Because what you are saying that in the ZA we all should become vegens and only eat plants because if we eat meat we are walking a thin line that only takes one bite of bacon to turn us into the Donner party.
Yes but in the zombie apocalypse the things that made humans superior to animals for survivability like population, intellect and technology are turned on their head especially when humans are the ones causing the ZA. We are the only ones who can become infected and are all going to turn into them when we die yet no animals can and without our technology and with our death rate getting higher than the birth rate then all the traits that made us better for survival are gone and pretty soon we all just act like savages anyway.
In a zombie apocalypse we are the least likely to survive out of all the animals and so animals and humans are a lot more equal in the worth of their life especially when all humans are fated to become infected. Least that's how I see it. We become equally as valuable in a Zombie apocalypse.
Have you only been exposed to the Walking Dead or somthing? We do not know if a ZA happens that it will only effect humans. There are many zombie books that talk about the dog, deer (ok maybe not from eatting meat bt can get bit before running away), birds becoming zombie animals from eatting the tainted meat. In fact the only thing we can be sure about is that if it has a brain it can become a zombie depending on what kind of infection it is. Look up Resident Evil, I so remember zombie dogs, shark, and birds because of the T-virse and hell with that one even the plants were not save.
Have you only been exposed to the Walking Dead or somthing? We do not know if a ZA happens that it will only effect humans. There are many zombie books that talk about the dog, deer (ok maybe not from eatting meat bt can get bit before running away), birds becoming zombie animals from eatting the tainted meat. In fact the only thing we can be sure about is that if it has a brain it can become a zombie depending on what kind of infection it is. Look up Resident Evil, I so remember zombie dogs, shark, and birds because of the T-virse and hell with that one even the plants were not save.
Actually, I think Resident Evil was a bit unique in that regard. I'm trying to think here, and I can't really recall a whole lot of zombie media that has zombie animals, outside of Resident Evil and the Zombies!!! board game, off the top of my head. Occasionally you'll see zombie dogs, but that's fairly rare. Usually animals seem to be immune to whatever causes the zombie apocalypse, because at the heart of it, the zombie apocalypse is usually a cautionary tale about man doing something wrong and being punished for it, not the entire planet. (i.e. a commentary about capitalism or whatever)
This is also why you typically don't see a whole lot of animals running around, among other reasons-unless they're there as a plot device or to set ambiance, animals are usually oddly absent (and there are rarely signs of them having been consumed by anyone, let alone humans, before you jump in on that one, guys).
I see a whole lot of strawman arguing going on here. I'm sure the real reality is, if it came down to it, most people wouldn't pull an I am Legend and take their dogs and cats with them (cats are even less practical in this regard), but would likely just release them. Animals are pretty smart, they'd get by (well, some of them, anyway).
I would never eat one of my pets. I just wouldn't. I'm not saying I wouldn't eat someone else's, but the emotional attachment to my own pets would prevent me from eating my own.
Wait let me understand this. So people in third world countrys who use dog meat for food so they can keep their familys fed are one step from eatting each other? So does that mean you would not hunt say a deer or a rabbit, or maybe even a cute little hug able panda. Because what you are saying that in the ZA we all should become vegens and only eat plants because if we eat meat we are walking a thin line that only takes one bite of bacon to turn us into the Donner party.
MY ONLY OBJECTION IS DECIDING TO KILL AND EAT YOU DOG AT THE START OF THE APOCALYPSE.
Dont care about other animals as this thread is about PETS but yes I would hunt if/when it became necessary but jesus I got enough shit(veggies, soup, canned fruit an such) to live off of for at least a month.
Yes I would kill my dog if necessary but not for food, there just isn't enough meat there to justify it as hunger (nor anyway to keep the meat fresh) IMO and it would bother me too much to kill MY DOG!
Second thing is killing and eating my dog would never help my son as he cant eat meat anyhow so stop trying to make me look like a hippie and understand that there other things to consider in anyone's case.
Jesus when did not wanting to kill and eat my fucking dog make me less of a survivor or a fucking hippie:p Not seeing that reasoning. If you already are saying I would kill and eat my dog before the ZA then yes by a few months in you are prolly going to be a cannibal. Choices make you who you are and they never goes away.
Let the cats go, the dogs would stay with us as long as possible but in the end even though it would really screw with my head I'd sacrifice them over us. Sometimes all you can do is give them the best life you can for as long as you can.
For people who don't love their dog, I'd ask "would you kill a crying baby that's drawing attention?" For me, same deal.
If you wanted a "dark" answer, than I think some may well find themselves in a "Hawkeye Situation" with a crying baby (or is it a chicken?) and may feel that it's coming down to a "one dies or we all die" scenario, baby or dog. But I'd like to think most wouldn't do it, any more than I'd murder my loyal dog just to save my own butt.
I love dogs, but if I was starving could I kill and eat one if I had to? Probably. COuld I kill *my* dog and eat her? No. Could I eat a person if it was that or die? Possibly. Could I kill a family member to eat them and save my own life? No.
For people who don't love their dog, I'd ask "would you kill a crying baby that's drawing attention?" For me, same deal.
If you wanted a "dark" answer, than I think some may well find themselves in a "Hawkeye Situation" with a crying baby (or is it a chicken?) and may feel that it's coming down to a "one dies or we all die" scenario, baby or dog. But I'd like to think most wouldn't do it, any more than I'd murder my loyal dog just to save my own butt.
I love dogs, but if I was starving could I kill and eat one if I had to? Probably. COuld I kill *my* dog and eat her? No. Could I eat a person if it was that or die? Possibly. Could I kill a family member to eat them and save my own life? No.
Have you ever had a animal that was sick and truly suffering? Have you cared for it for months as it was unable to stand? Have you held them as they went through seizures and refused water? Have you not had the money (not unwilling but don't actually have the cash) to pay thousands of dollars for surgery that may or may not work? When the dog is going to be eaten or going to starve to death as it stays by your side would you watch it suffer? Sometimes the selfish answer hurts them more than accepting the pain and guilt.
From “The Zombie Survival Guide,” Part 5: Strategies, Chapter 5: The Cage
If you don’t believe in cruelty to animals, don’t try this on a sweep. It basically involves placing an animal in a cage, then picking off the animals that come to devour the animal. Of course, several factors need to be considered for this tactic to work. The live bait must be loud enough to attract nearby ghouls. The cage must be strong enough to resist an attack and anchored well enough to resist being pushed. Your team needs to be hidden so as not to attract zombies to its position. They must also take care not to hit and kill the caged animal. Silent, dead bait will quickly foil the cage strategy. Environments least suited to a cage approach are those with little or no cover for your team. Avoid its use in plains, tundra, or open desert.
Have you ever had a animal that was sick and truly suffering? Have you cared for it for months as it was unable to stand? Have you held them as they went through seizures and refused water? Have you not had the money (not unwilling but don't actually have the cash) to pay thousands of dollars for surgery that may or may not work? When the dog is going to be eaten or going to starve to death as it stays by your side would you watch it suffer? Sometimes the selfish answer hurts them more than accepting the pain and guilt.
The problem here is with the eating not the killing. jesus people dont fucking eat your pets. thats all some of us are trying to say. you gotta kill it well it sucks but done. never should you have to eat your pet.
Also the excerpt from the ZA book dont recamend (cant spell that) eating the pet so unhelpful in this case tho it does say to not kill the caged pet or let it die.
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Damn, I was just about to mention the baby crying and dogs not being able to be infected in TWD world
I personally don't think that being a human means that you are any better than a dog or cat. I would not kill another survivor just if they were a burden, and I would not kill any dogs or cats as I was raised to love them lol
Glad someone else at least thought about such things.
When society is all but gone and civilisation is in ruins then we really would be no different to the animals, we're just trying to survive all the same. If possible farm and domestic animals would still be pretty valuable with correct protection and training. If we're able to rely on one another for survival then we could help one another out a lot, the animals would have their natural instincts, loyalty and better overall senses (and possibly immunity to the bites) while the human members of the group would be able to function remaining technology and fire arms for protection aswell as being able to fortify areas for safety.
Ok wait, its the ZA right? So uh your worried about your kids mental health over killing the family dog to keep them alive? Not the walking dead people trying to eat them alive. I am sure at that point killing the family pet is going to effect them a whole lot less then grandma eatting their face because fido started barking at her.
repost. not horrible to kill a animal that threatens your safety but EAT IT??? wtf people...wtf
If it was for my survival I would eat your puppy labrator. The flesh is probably soft and tender.
Dogs don't talk, they don't think, it's an animal -- not a person.
I didn't grow up with pets, nor do I have any, so I don't have much of an attachment to them. It would be a no-brainer for me.
Slippery slope if they manage to get in. I live in a community, apartment-like setting and it would be near impossible to get out. Ugh... don't want to think about it.
They do talk and they do think. Just not how you'd expect.
They talk with their body language. Also, dogs can have fun, be bored, be sad, be happy, even love to some extent. Did you know that there is a variety of psychological issues a dog can have?
I'd keep my dog. She never barks anyway, but she's very vigilant - she could warn us of any impending dangers, using her far superior senses of hearing and smelling. Feeding her won't be much of a problem, as dogs could probably stomach a dead walker much better than a human could.
When you get yourself a pet, you agree to care for it as much as you possibly could. For me, that would also extend into a ZA scenario.
Way I understand it the Zombie Virus is passed through body fluid transfer. When they bite you its the saliva and blood that gets in your wound that will kill you not so much the rotten teeth. Same if they scratch you or when you are fighting one getting a bunch of dead ozzing flesh in your mouth. So if you feed your pet the zombie meat they have a high chance of becoming zombie pets. Which can be cute until they eat you in your sleep or that 100 lbs dog you keep for protection tackles you and rips your throat out.
Best bet is to hide in a old folks home for a few days until the main body of the zombies have moved on. Then get out of the citys with as much food and water as you can. I say old folks home because they have a butt load of meds at most of them in case they get hurt or fall down. Food to last a good bit until the power goes out and maybe alittle longer. There is alot of rooms that can be shared, which also gives alot of dressers, tables, and other things to break up to block windows and doors. Other note is alot of the retired men are WW2 and vietnam vets and they will take a zombie in a heart beat. Real danger is those who are not doing well health and mentaly before all this happened. Oh and there is sure to be one person who keeps calling you their grandchild.
If it was for my family's survival (dog included) I'd shoot out both your knees and then feed you to my dog St. John style. You wanted to eat him....enjoy while I cook you up for his soft and tender ass.
BTW proly not but I'd fucking headshot you in a sec and claim walker by the door;) also you would be in a one person group considering your thoughts feeling so You would never get out of your neighbor hood anyhow.
Cannibals should become live bait. strung up around the city so they attract the zombies and other people/decent people can walk safely.
My dog is getting old anyway, so she probably wouldn't last long. I'd muzzle her to stop her barking, and try to keep her safe as long as possible.
Human eating Dog =/= Cannibal. No matter your feelings the word 'Cannibal' has a very specific meaning.
That is seriously the dumbest thing I have ever heard. You think only humans think and communicate? I am afraid to ask what school system produced you.
Well if someone is willing to eat a dog at the start of the ZA where does it go from there. only so many dogs before you look elsewhere. I'm thinking these dog eaters are on a stepping stone to becoming cannibals. It starts somewhere and I think thats the jumping off point. Once you kill and eat something like that you would rationalize it and anything else you had to do to survive
My question is at what point should a person go I shouldn't do this, this is too far?
Seems like many on here would rather survive than actually live. I would rather live for a few months and be killed, the eating dogs and whatever else (see the would you kill a baby thread) is surviving but it is very far from living.
YOU ARE THE WALKING DEAD!(not to the person i commented on but to whoever this goes to...you know who you are:() out
When I think about my actions I would take in a ZA (or anything that would bring civilization to its knees, really), I consider what my actions would do to my mental state. I'm not going to do something that would greatly upset me if at all possible, because then I'd be of little use until I get over it, or worse yet I could just go batshit crazy. In both of those scenarios I'm not very well going to be much help to anyone or myself, so why would I put myself in such a scenario?
If I were starving to death, but still had my dog (whom would obviously also be starving to death), I'd rather risk my life and go try to find food (even if it would be a poor decision) than eat my own dog, lest risking my mental health.
This response cracks me up. All those wasted words typed and you totally miss the point. You dont seem to understand that Technology and Progress are NOT the same thing and never have been.
Everything you mention is superficial, materialistic in nature, and honestly, quite ignorant.
Penicillin is a naturally occurring extract of bread mold which humans discovered totally by accident by Alexander Fleming, not "developed" as you so mistakenly put it.
Landing on the moon...BIG DEAL! Wow, we sure helped the universe out by landing on the moon. What good has it done to benefit the planet? The people? NONE. Only benefactors are big corporations hellbent on weapons production and profit margins. Do you think there might be a reason why they have never gone back?
Then Mr. genius calls on the "devices" we use everyday as if these cheap chinese slave goods are somehow a measure in the improvement of the human condition! Wowee! We cant balance budgets, can't live one day without constant warfare, have crooked politicians and banksters destroying the planet, have fukushima radiation spilling into the pacific, yet somehow in your world ,the fact that humans can produce cheap plastic goods filled with chinese electronics makes them superior to all other life on earth! Take a good look at hurricane sandy, those new yorkers were ready to kill each other over a gallon of gasoline.
And for the final insult, you point to the fact that humans can eat all other species as something to hang your hat on. Good job buddy, you can eat all other species and that makes you so special! OMG somebody get this kid some help. Take away the ammo and you are nothing but prey.
A superior species would see that all life is precious. A superior species would understand they exist as only a small part of a larger whole, living synergistically in unison with the resources given to us. A superior species would refuse to be defined by the things they produce but rather whether those devices positively affected the world they live in A superior species would understand that devices and cheap trinkets do not do anything but satiate the materialistic needs of the braindead masses who need these devices to maintain their fancy digital lifestyles inside the matrix.
If anything, your response proves your sector of the human species is dumbed down to the point of being zombies themselves. I can only assume you are a card carrying member. Were you one of the braindead sheeple on black friday? I suppose my video link pissed u off then.
And btw, if you didnt already know this, humans haven't found a cure for cancer either! But then again, dogs would never think of making medicine in the name of profit margins like big pharma.
Way to go dude, good luck with your materialistic existence. I hope your gadgets and devices keep you warm at night. You better hope the electricity stays on so you can keep your dreamworld alive.
Do you see all the hype regarding zombies these days? They are talking about you. YOU are the zombie.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAeMeLhjswQ&list=UUzUV5283-l5c0oKRtyenj6Q&index=10&feature=plcp
BOX OF PUPPIES FTW!
We humans have our moral flaws (more than enough), but even though I love animals and would never hurt one I'm going to go ahead and say that I'm better than animals. They don't have superior morals, because hell, they don't have morals. Sure they can have emotion, but that is different.
A human life is of more value to me than an animal.
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Yes but in the zombie apocalypse the things that made humans superior to animals for survivability like population, intellect and technology are turned on their head especially when humans are the ones causing the ZA. We are the only ones who can become infected and are all going to turn into them when we die yet no animals can and without our technology and with our death rate getting higher than the birth rate then all the traits that made us better for survival are gone and pretty soon we all just act like savages anyway.
In a zombie apocalypse we are the least likely to survive out of all the animals and so animals and humans are a lot more equal in the worth of their life especially when all humans are fated to become infected. Least that's how I see it. We become equally as valuable in a Zombie apocalypse.
Well in terms of survivability, I'd say that the human race alone would have the best chance of survival even with the disease only striking us. Sure, if we counted every animal against humans then the odds would favor them, but we are merely one type of animal ourselves, so it would only be fair to count ourselves against single species as well, and as such I'd think that other than insects or marine mammals (and perhaps birds), we are more likely to survive than any specific species on the planet save a few specific examples due to isolation (like the penguins of Antarctica).
Humans have two things on their side that have always helped them get ahead of the crowd: ingenuity and being a dick. Our crazy ingenuity and problem solving is what got all this way, and being a dick is what helped us get here faster. Against zombies people have the advantage that those smarter people are going to use to devise plans for survival that an animal could never, even if it means being an ass.
Really, being a jerk is an evolutionary advantage. Humans got to where we are now by killing off the other human-like beings (like neanderthals) and becoming the only one allowed to evolve, lest they do the same to us. With the ingenuity of humans as a species, as well as the technology that we now possess, I feel that at some point humans could come out the victors of the zombie apocalypse, and we would do so by staying true to our nature and being a jerk, not playing fairly with them zombies, be it finding a hitherto undiscovered weakness or curing zombie-ism or just getting really good at killing the undead.
That is definitely the longest set of hippie-blather I have ever read. I lean towards the left and I think those paragraphs made my throw up a little in my mouth.
I never said animals were worthless, and I'm well aware that humans haven't cured cancer. Animals also haven't cured, well, anything...other then roughly 3/4 of Europe's population being eradicated due to the Black Plague (of which rats and fleas are attributed as the carrying vessels).
Superficial? Materialistic? The greatest thing a creature can do is overcome it's limitations to adapt and survive in new settings.
If that means putting down Fido then so be it. Survival of the fittest, is it not?
My section of the human species is dumbed down? Are you unaware that you are debating on a forum about a FICTITIOUS, let alone scientifically impossible event?
It's like me saying I'd just grow wings and fly to avoid zombies...there's as great a chance of that occurring as actual "walkers" chasing me down.
Did I ever mention corporate greed in the medicine industry? NO; but I did point out it wasn't a bonobo to discover penicillin or a duck. It took a human with human motivation and human intelligence.
As for being on equal footing with animals in a zombie apocalypse? Well, humans spent what...roughly two-millions years evolving out of caves along with the neanderthal? Yeah...we progressed and continue to do so because we can learn to kill ANYTHING. That's the real human advantage; we are the best killing creature on the planet because we can develop tools. We are not on equal footing because when I see a walker, I'd shut up. A dog would bark. Humans win again.
The fact that you've wasted so much brain power on your defense of animals versus your own survival shows that you are the kind of individual who would be a human happy meal in a heartbeat (edited to be nice; I don't know you so won't take it to "11", that would be rude).
I'll keep worrying about humanity...I'll never have to stop with people like you out there.
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WD40...thanks for showing that human evolution hasn't railroaded into a brick wall.
Sure, dogs think, so do bears, and pigs. They think differently, they aren't human and they aren't people. They communicate, but not the same way, it's too different for me to even begin to consider it anything close to the way humans can and do.
I'm afraid to ask what is producing this generation.
Eating a dog is no different than eating a cow, both are animals, are you saying more than half the population of the United States are on the verge of being cannibals? Sure, it isn't something that's common or looked on with a smile here, but to say that if someone ate a dog to survive that they would be cannibals is just a baseless assumption.
Anyone that has any sort of humanity should try to bring their healthy pets with them. You do not need a muzzle for a loud pet. Simply get some rope or a small belt and tie their mouth. This is assuming you have a well trained pet that would stick beside you rather easily. However, if your pet does not/can not do that then you need to either put them down or release them.
Either of those options are acceptable! If you release them there is the possibility that they won't make it. They is also the possibility that they well. YOU know your pet. I would assume you know the surrounding area where you are. If you believe that your pet doesn't have good survivable skills then you should probably spare them the suffering of starvation or becoming food for zombies or crazy ass people and give them a mercy kill. If there isn't much woods or animals they can hunt around your area you should probably give them a mercy kill.
People were talking about eating their pets. Only if you need to survive. Your survival is key. If it came down to the point where you had to you would do it. If you didn't you would die. Survival trumps everything else. It wouldn't make you a bad person for doing it. It just had to be done. I sure as hell would feel awful about it but it is what it is.
As for people vs. animals debate. Humans are better then animals in the sense of modern technology. It is not opinion, it is not up for debate. It is a fact. You should always choose people over animals simply because we are the same species. The human race needs to keep on going. It can not keep going if you are choosing to save another species over your own. If animals had even a little bit of our intelligent they would surely save their own kind. They must ensure that their species going on living.
To not choose your own species is to doom it. So, unless you want our race to die off, in a ZA go right ahead and choose another over us. Just keep in mind that, that is just more zombies for you to deal with later.
I like you, you understand how I view it and explained it far better than I could.
Exactly what I thought too. Of course humans are as much a living species than other animals and both should be allowed to live but anyway.
If I would see someone who let a baby die in a fire to safe puppies, this person would also end up in this burning house if I have the possibility. Such reckless persons would be too much danger for my own and my groups survival (if there is one)
About the main topic: Can't vote in the poll, wouldn't spare the life regardless and wouldn't kill it immedeately. Cats have always good survival chances if you let them alone and most of them wouldn't follow you if you go away. So why should I kill the cat if he/she wouldn't follow me on my journey? It would be silly to carry it with you. A dog could be a problem yes but I don't know if they would be really that dangerous. I woudln't stay in a house or in a city, I would go into the wilderness if I have the chance. There it could be a huge benefit if the dog warns me if there is something dangerous for me. Moreover the dog can help hunting. So I don't think that I would kill the dog, only if this is my only chance for survival.
Not every cat is the same. My cat is hopeless on it's own. If you put it outside it will wait the whole day in the garage or around the house until you let it in. I seriously doubt that it would do well on it's own. Some cats are too domesticated, same with some dogs. Pretty sure if I just took off it would be a death sentence for my cat.
So, I would have two choices: Take it with me or put it down. Considering it doesn't follow me very well and carrying it everywhere isn't that much better of an option... well... you get the picture.
I guess I'm a little less concerned for my cat considering it has sharp claws and fangs, though. My poor rabbits would have to be put down. There is 0 chance of them surviving on their own.
If it were possible I would bring them all with me but it's really not. Too many extra mouths to feed and it would be too likely I would lose any of them since both my rabbits and my cat don't know to stick close to me.
Wait let me understand this. So people in third world countrys who use dog meat for food so they can keep their familys fed are one step from eatting each other? So does that mean you would not hunt say a deer or a rabbit, or maybe even a cute little hug able panda. Because what you are saying that in the ZA we all should become vegens and only eat plants because if we eat meat we are walking a thin line that only takes one bite of bacon to turn us into the Donner party.
Have you only been exposed to the Walking Dead or somthing? We do not know if a ZA happens that it will only effect humans. There are many zombie books that talk about the dog, deer (ok maybe not from eatting meat bt can get bit before running away), birds becoming zombie animals from eatting the tainted meat. In fact the only thing we can be sure about is that if it has a brain it can become a zombie depending on what kind of infection it is. Look up Resident Evil, I so remember zombie dogs, shark, and birds because of the T-virse and hell with that one even the plants were not save.
Actually, I think Resident Evil was a bit unique in that regard. I'm trying to think here, and I can't really recall a whole lot of zombie media that has zombie animals, outside of Resident Evil and the Zombies!!! board game, off the top of my head. Occasionally you'll see zombie dogs, but that's fairly rare. Usually animals seem to be immune to whatever causes the zombie apocalypse, because at the heart of it, the zombie apocalypse is usually a cautionary tale about man doing something wrong and being punished for it, not the entire planet. (i.e. a commentary about capitalism or whatever)
This is also why you typically don't see a whole lot of animals running around, among other reasons-unless they're there as a plot device or to set ambiance, animals are usually oddly absent (and there are rarely signs of them having been consumed by anyone, let alone humans, before you jump in on that one, guys).
I see a whole lot of strawman arguing going on here. I'm sure the real reality is, if it came down to it, most people wouldn't pull an I am Legend and take their dogs and cats with them (cats are even less practical in this regard), but would likely just release them. Animals are pretty smart, they'd get by (well, some of them, anyway).
I would never eat one of my pets. I just wouldn't. I'm not saying I wouldn't eat someone else's, but the emotional attachment to my own pets would prevent me from eating my own.
MY ONLY OBJECTION IS DECIDING TO KILL AND EAT YOU DOG AT THE START OF THE APOCALYPSE.
Dont care about other animals as this thread is about PETS but yes I would hunt if/when it became necessary but jesus I got enough shit(veggies, soup, canned fruit an such) to live off of for at least a month.
Yes I would kill my dog if necessary but not for food, there just isn't enough meat there to justify it as hunger (nor anyway to keep the meat fresh) IMO and it would bother me too much to kill MY DOG!
Second thing is killing and eating my dog would never help my son as he cant eat meat anyhow so stop trying to make me look like a hippie and understand that there other things to consider in anyone's case.
Jesus when did not wanting to kill and eat my fucking dog make me less of a survivor or a fucking hippie:p Not seeing that reasoning. If you already are saying I would kill and eat my dog before the ZA then yes by a few months in you are prolly going to be a cannibal. Choices make you who you are and they never goes away.
If you wanted a "dark" answer, than I think some may well find themselves in a "Hawkeye Situation" with a crying baby (or is it a chicken?) and may feel that it's coming down to a "one dies or we all die" scenario, baby or dog. But I'd like to think most wouldn't do it, any more than I'd murder my loyal dog just to save my own butt.
I love dogs, but if I was starving could I kill and eat one if I had to? Probably. COuld I kill *my* dog and eat her? No. Could I eat a person if it was that or die? Possibly. Could I kill a family member to eat them and save my own life? No.
Have you ever had a animal that was sick and truly suffering? Have you cared for it for months as it was unable to stand? Have you held them as they went through seizures and refused water? Have you not had the money (not unwilling but don't actually have the cash) to pay thousands of dollars for surgery that may or may not work? When the dog is going to be eaten or going to starve to death as it stays by your side would you watch it suffer? Sometimes the selfish answer hurts them more than accepting the pain and guilt.
If you don’t believe in cruelty to animals, don’t try this on a sweep. It basically involves placing an animal in a cage, then picking off the animals that come to devour the animal. Of course, several factors need to be considered for this tactic to work. The live bait must be loud enough to attract nearby ghouls. The cage must be strong enough to resist an attack and anchored well enough to resist being pushed. Your team needs to be hidden so as not to attract zombies to its position. They must also take care not to hit and kill the caged animal. Silent, dead bait will quickly foil the cage strategy. Environments least suited to a cage approach are those with little or no cover for your team. Avoid its use in plains, tundra, or open desert.
That just about sums it up.
The problem here is with the eating not the killing. jesus people dont fucking eat your pets. thats all some of us are trying to say. you gotta kill it well it sucks but done. never should you have to eat your pet.
Also the excerpt from the ZA book dont recamend (cant spell that) eating the pet so unhelpful in this case tho it does say to not kill the caged pet or let it die.