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What did Campman tell you?

HiggsBoson2142HiggsBoson2142
edited December 2012 in The Walking Dead
"You stole from the car."

"You killed a man with a pitchfork right in front of a little girl!"
(You killed Danny)
"You left a girl that new about your past to die!"
(You chose to save Doug)

Something like that. It's all I can remember.

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  • Pickles312Pickles312
    edited November 2012
    He said, "You left Lilly"

    And I said, "Hell yeah I did!"
  • der_ketzerder_ketzer
    edited November 2012
    He said I let Clem eat human meat. Which I did not...
    I cannot remember the rest. But the scene & conversation was the best part of the whole season for me.
  • Rock114Rock114
    edited November 2012
    He called me on killing Danny and leaving Lilly. He had no idea why my Lee did the things he did, and I stuck by my choices. I'd challenge him to do better in Lee's place.
  • Hidan13Hidan13
    edited November 2012
    I'm paraphrasing, as I completely forget what they are.

    "You let her(Clementine) walk into a dairy full of sick people!"
    (Going to the dairy in episode two)
    "You let a man die to help protect a pretty girl with a gun."
    (Carly or Doug)
    "You left a grieving women on the side of the road to die."
    (Leaving Lilly)
  • KaserkinKaserkin
    edited November 2012
    He told me I stole from his car, that I had Clementine coming to the St Johns and another thing I forgot.

    edit: that I didn't tell her I was a murderer.
  • rachellouise85rachellouise85
    edited November 2012
    choosing Carley over Doug, and killing Danny
  • Chris-SabianChris-Sabian
    edited November 2012
    Me too. He told me things I didn’t do. I ended up thinking he was utterly delusional…

    I didn’t apologize for what I did. I mean, what the heck. He should have understood that I also gave all the food I had to the kids back at the motel.

    I think he just wanted to find something to blame for what happened to him and his family. Even though I felt bad for him, he was a sick man.

    By the way, how the heck could he go through the zombies at the entrance of the motel?
  • trd84trd84
    edited November 2012
    der_ketzer wrote: »
    He said I let Clem eat human meat. Which I did not...
    I cannot remember the rest. But the scene & conversation was the best part of the whole season for me.

    This happened to me also.
  • trd84trd84
    edited November 2012
    Chris-Sabian wrote: »
    Me too. He told me things I didn’t do. I ended up thinking he was utterly delusional…

    I didn’t apologize for what I did. I mean, what the heck. He should have understood that I also gave all the food I had to the kids back at the motel.

    I think he just wanted to find something to blame for what happened to him and his family. Even though I felt bad for him, he was a sick man.

    By the way, how the heck could he go through the zombies at the entrance of the motel?

    I think he got to the motel before they showed up. And was waiting on them to leave
  • Chris-SabianChris-Sabian
    edited November 2012
    I think he got to the motel before they showed up. And was waiting on them to leave

    I thought that too but since Clementine’s parents are seen right outside at the end, and since they were at the hotel before the outbreak, I figured the zombies had been there the whole time.

    Also, He may have stalked the group since the beginning, since his car is seen at the hotel, so he must have stayed in the woods by the dairy and he possibly came in contact with the retarded brothers at the dairy.
  • darknessofheartdarknessofheart
    edited November 2012
    The fun thing with Campman is you don't know what he did before to survive. He is obviously a self-loathing man who puts all his faults on Lee and his group as a way to cope with himself regardless of what Lee did. For all we know, he may have killed his son in the woods, or was involved with bandits and the St. Johns, or did any number of horrible things to survive. He could've been just a broken family man with a lust for revenge or both that and a real sick and twisted man who killed many people throughout his quest to survive.

    There is an awful lot of diluted blood on the man's clothes which may or may not just be from walkers, but he obviously got more supplies, food, and gasoline from somewhere; I doubt it was all as a result of moral nature. We will never know though, but he seems to be trying to convince himself that he is not evil when talking to Lee, implying that there is a great deal more to his story than what he tells about his family. He did horrible things, but has a chance to make himself feel better by begrudging someone else who made mistakes. I did love that mystique though and I never expected to be having a philosophical conversation with the final antagonist in a quiet room as if never is happening in the world.
  • trd84trd84
    edited November 2012
    Chris-Sabian wrote: »
    I thought that too but since Clementine’s parents are seen right outside at the end, and since they were at the hotel before the outbreak, I figured the zombies had been there the whole time.

    Also, He may have stalked the group since the beginning, since his car is seen at the hotel, so he must have stayed in the woods by the dairy and he possibly came in contact with the retarded brothers at the dairy.

    There were some walkers already there. But he was in the motel with Clem as the herd came into the city.
  • DreadMagusDreadMagus
    edited November 2012
    He accused me of taking Clem to the farm (which was dangerous) and for leaving Lilly at the side of the road.

    There was a third thing, but I don't recall it.


    Edit: Wait.... I think he accused me of not helping Hershal's kid.
  • Chris-SabianChris-Sabian
    edited November 2012
    The fun thing with Campman is you don't know what he did before to survive. He is obviously a self-loathing man who puts all his faults on Lee and his group as a way to cope with himself regardless of what Lee did. For all we know, he may have killed his son in the woods, or was involved with bandits and the St. Johns, or did any number of horrible things to survive. He could've been just a broken family man with a lust for revenge or both that and a real sick and twisted man who killed many people throughout his quest to survive.

    There is an awful lot of diluted blood on the man's clothes which may or may not just be from walkers, but he obviously got more supplies, food, and gasoline from somewhere; I doubt it was all as a result of moral nature. We will never know though, but he seems to be trying to convince himself that he is not evil when talking to Lee, implying that there is a great deal more to his story than what he tells about his family. He did horrible things, but has a chance to make himself feel better by begrudging someone else who made mistakes. I did love that mystique though and I never expected to be having a philosophical conversation with the final antagonist in a quiet room as if never is happening in the world.

    That’s what I thought too. He does sound like a psychopath.
  • dubesordubesor
    edited November 2012
    think it was pretty weaksauce, he also blames you for stuff you had no control over, such as taking clem to the diary. or saving eitherone of carley or doug, which one you did doesn't matter he blames you for not saving the opposite. >.<
  • Sox&amp;Rocks22Sox&amp;Rocks22
    edited November 2012
    He brought up stealing from the car, Danny and leaving Lilly. Those were probably my darkest choices but I stood by them.
  • ZacTBZacTB
    edited November 2012
    He told me that I let Clementine eat human meat (I told him I tried my best), he said that I left a grieving, defenceless woman (Lilly) behind (I told him that he wasn't there), and he told me that Clementine is wearing his son's sweatshirt (I can't remember what I said here, I think I probably said that I fucked up).

    But when I copied my save onto Save 2 and tried out something in that scene (what Lee says if he chooses Carley as someone he cares about but hurt, he says that he wished he did more to keep her alive), instead of mentioning that I failed to stop Clementine eating human meat, which is true, he said that I killed a man with a pitchfork in front of Clementine, which I never did? I checked my stats as well and I kept both brothers alive and I remember that clearly. I am pretty sure it glitched out or something, but my first playthrough with what he said was accurate, although he was definitely deluded/crazy. I don't understand how he thought that I LET Clementine eat human meat, and thinks I should of taken Lilly with me after what she did to Carley.

    Edit: I thought he would have mentioned killing Larry, since I assumed that option would have affected Clementine much more than leaving Lilly behind. But later on at the end of the Episode Clementine told me that she understands why I killed Larry, which I was surprised that she would mention but I was happy about that. Did she say that to anyone else?
  • voodoohandbagvoodoohandbag
    edited November 2012
    From what I remember, he called me out just on the things I had no control over - Doug dying, bringing Lilly and taking her to the dairy.
    DreadMagus wrote: »
    Wait.... I think he accused me of not helping Hershal's kid.

    Was this one of the things he calls you out on too? I can't remember.
  • Matrox YangMatrox Yang
    edited November 2012
    Told me off for letting Clem into the dairy, for leaving Lilly on the side of the road, and he said that Clem's hoodie was his son's.
  • Master of AeonsMaster of Aeons
    edited November 2012
    "You are a highly skilled warrior, well suited for this mission."
    "I see that you like to play Sam and Max. As well as Tales of Monkey Island... You also like Puzzle Agent..."
    "Hmmm. You have not saved often."
  • sloughslough
    edited November 2012
    On my first save, he pointed out that I brought Clem to the dairy, left Lilly on the side of the road, and brought Clem to Crawford. I'll update this post when I play through my other saves.
  • Donut FunnDonut Funn
    edited November 2012
    "You killed a man with a pitchfork right in front of a little girl!"
    "You let a boy get pulled into the night so you could save a pretty girl with a gun!"
    "You brought her to the most dangerous place in this city where she could have died!"
  • ZeruisZeruis
    edited November 2012
    Well, radio guy asked me why I brought Clem to the St. John dairy. And then he asked why I left Lilly out in the road, and why I brought Clem to Crawford.
  • Harry CallahanHarry Callahan
    edited November 2012
    He complained about me bringing Clem to the St. John Dairy and saving "a pretty girl with a gun" over Doug. An unloaded gun, you jackass.

    I'm actually kind of surprised Lee didn't know about Clem's birthday; a lot has been going on recently, but the last three chapters have only covered a few days, if I'm figuring right. Wouldn't they still have been back at the motel six days ago? It's weird she didn't mention it to people.
  • Tomi021Tomi021
    edited November 2012
    Rock114 wrote: »
    He called me on killing Danny and leaving Lilly. He had no idea why my Lee did the things he did, and I stuck by my choices. I'd challenge him to do better in Lee's place.
    <--
  • AwkwardlyNERDAwkwardlyNERD
    edited December 2012
    Chris-Sabian wrote: »
    I thought that too but since Clementine’s parents are seen right outside at the end, and since they were at the hotel before the outbreak, I figured the zombies had been there the whole time.

    Also, He may have stalked the group since the beginning, since his car is seen at the hotel, so he must have stayed in the woods by the dairy and he possibly came in contact with the retarded brothers at the dairy.

    I just laughed out loud. :guybrush:
  • watertommyzwatertommyz
    edited December 2012
    On my first play through, he told me exactly about all the choices I made. Interesting thing bit; when I copied my file to see what else he can say otherwise he ended up saying that I let Clementine eat human meat, which I never did. But in my main file he told me what he was supposed to tell me. Weird glitch, or something, but it didn't ruin the experience for me. Though, I do think there was something wrong with him mentally. I find it suspicious he never goes into detail about his son, and not explain what happened to him.

    I find Campman to be the perfect antagonist for Lee, as he was probably considered a "good" guy before the apocalypse, while he just wasn't suited for a harsher world and was driven mad. Lee on the other hand had gone mad (accidentally killing someone) in the normal world, but was able to find redemption in this very same world that twisted the stranger. I believe that he couldn't stand to see that Lee had actually kept Clementine safe, despite all these horrible things happening.

    It's all a little open to interpretation but this is all conjecture from my end, but at the end of the day, I consider the villain the most important part of the game narratively speaking as it forces you to wonder about your choices, and the consequences of those choices. It all comes down to how it was about Clementine and her relationship to Lee the entire time.
  • dinofiredinofire
    edited December 2012
    You took her to a farm full of sick people! (he says that if you don't let Clem eat Markloaf)
    You let a boy get yanked out of a window to save a pretty girl with a gun!

    I think that's about it.
  • SutinenSutinen
    edited December 2012
    He said he would "hurt me". My only arm said fuck you and strangled him.
  • DemopanDemopan
    edited December 2012
    "You stole from my camper
    You let a woman who knew who you are die to protect your secret(He means Carley, because I saved Doug)
    That sweatshirt clementine's wearing is my boy's!"

    Angry campman.
  • ScaevaScaeva
    edited December 2012
    Hidan13 wrote: »
    I'm paraphrasing, as I completely forget what they are.

    "You let her(Clementine) walk into a dairy full of sick people!"
    (Going to the dairy in episode two)
    "You let a man die to help protect a pretty girl with a gun."
    (Carly or Doug)
    "You left a grieving women on the side of the road to die."
    (Leaving Lilly)

    That's what I got as well.

    He also called out Lee on stealing the supplies.

    I had Lee defend every one of his actions, rather than apologize. For example when Campan calls Lee a thief and a murderer for stealing supplies that led to the death of Campman's wife and daughter, I had Lee say that his group was starving and desperate.

    When Campman asked if he looked like a monster, I had Lee say, "We're all monsters now."
  • HiggsBoson2142HiggsBoson2142
    edited December 2012
    When he asked me if he looked like a monster, I wanted to say "By now, yes." But I couldn't. Yet I still said yes.
  • HudomonkeyHudomonkey
    edited December 2012
    I let Clementine eat human(when I tried to stop by shouting You're eating human meat)
    I took her to Crawford (After she repeatedly left the house when ordered to stay put and almost died because of it)
    I lied to everyone about my past (I saved Doug so I had no choice to tell them)
    I was completely justified and I have kept my morals
    I wouldn't even kill him but Clem did...
  • LauriNicoleLauriNicole
    edited December 2012
    I think it's amusing in an annoying kind of way that whether you chose to save Carley or Doug, he complains either way.
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