Clem ending confused?

edited April 2013 in The Walking Dead
First, let me say that assuming Lee's death in the end was ridiculous.
Secondly, why didn't Clem go to the train? Why did it end with her in god knows where, seeing 2 people walking and BOOM, the end. There should be an episode 6 to actually understand what's happening.

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  • edited November 2012
    Maybe there was a lot of walkers still around the train and it was unsafe for her or/and Christa and Omid to stay there and wait for each other.
    No matter what Lee's final wish was plans don't always work out the way someone hopes...

    I actually liked the cliffhanger and the symbolism of Clem picking up a shotgun shell similar to the one that saved Lee's life at the beginning of episode 1 but I'll be disappointed if that ending won't be explained in season 2.
  • edited November 2012
    roroown wrote: »
    First, let me say that assuming Lee's death in the end was ridiculous.
    Secondly, why didn't Clem go to the train? Why did it end with her in god knows where, seeing 2 people walking and BOOM, the end. There should be an episode 6 to actually understand what's happening.

    There will be Season 2.
  • edited November 2012
    I was thinking about this, and I have a decent explanation for why Telltale decided she should leave town no matter what.

    The entire game, as we know, is about preparing Clem and helping her grow. So look at it this way - Clem is now adept enough to realise that she doesn't have to blindly follow instructions that may put her in danger. Savannah was crawling with walkers, it wasn't safe. She used the knowledge Lee had imparted and made a decision for herself what was best. She's mature enough to do that now, thanks to Lee.

    Personally, I'm glad she was shown relatively safe, and not surrounded by walkers at the station.
  • edited November 2012
    To be really honest...

    I would kind of prefer not playing with the same characters in Season 2.

    I like these open endings. My cousin thinks the ending of No Country For Old Men was really stupid and that it ruined the movie. I think it was genius and I love the mystery! One of my favourites mostly because of that.
  • edited November 2012
    That bit is pointless. If they arent using her they would of done an AC Rev: Embers Ezio round off
  • edited November 2012
    To be really honest...

    I would kind of prefer not playing with the same characters in Season 2.

    I like these open endings. My cousin thinks the ending of No Country For Old Men was really stupid and that it ruined the movie. I think it was genius and I love the mystery! One of my favourites mostly because of that.

    I agree, friendo.
  • edited November 2012
    roroown wrote: »
    First, let me say that assuming Lee's death in the end was ridiculous.
    Secondly, why didn't Clem go to the train? Why did it end with her in god knows where, seeing 2 people walking and BOOM, the end. There should be an episode 6 to actually understand what's happening.

    My Lee told her to stay out of cities.
  • edited November 2012
    Yeah the epilogue ruined it somewhat. You can still keep the mystery if you had just left that bit out, oh well.
  • edited November 2012
    My Lee told her to keep moving.

    I'm 99% sure that the two figures who spot Clem from the hilltop are Christa and Omid. It seems really pointless to build up those two characters just to leave them out of the next season.
  • edited November 2012
    Ending was perfect, i dont understand where this haters are coming from.
  • edited November 2012
    Wouldn't it be cool if Clem saw two people from the TV series or the Comic book and hooking up with them in a different medium?
  • edited November 2012
    bl4ckrider wrote: »
    Wouldn't it be cool if Clem saw two people from the TV series or the Comic book and hooking up with them in a different medium?

    No. Cause its Canon to the comics, noone in the comics met clementine yet, except Lilly, and thats it.

    TV series crossover will never happen for obvious reasons.
  • edited November 2012
    chaz99 wrote: »
    My Lee told her to keep moving.

    I'm 99% sure that the two figures who spot Clem from the hilltop are Christa and Omid. It seems really pointless to build up those two characters just to leave them out of the next season.

    One was a fat dude and the other was a tall skinny guy, doesn't look like Christa and Omid, at all.
  • edited November 2012
    They may take her charecter to the show. But without the current voice acting shell be half as good.
  • edited November 2012
    The great thing about that ending was that, it ended in a choice... you could SEE her making a choice in her head... does she call out? Does she hide? Are they strangers? Are they dangerous?.. this whole game was about choices.. and now we see Clem making one on her own.. nobody making it for her... TTG did a fantastic job animating the emotions going on in her head...

    I feel the ending was really great.. There really is few options for them to end it.. everyone dies, everyone lives but its still hell, or a cliff hanger.

    This ending is left wide open.. We do not know what is going to happen to Clem.. and having spent the entire game as Lee it makes sense that we do not know... because.. YES he is gone... IF he comes back through some miracle, it will RUIN the impact and emotions the first series created...

    Clem's story may continue but it will be through the eyes of someone different...
    chaz99 wrote: »
    My Lee told her to keep moving.

    I'm 99% sure that the two figures who spot Clem from the hilltop are Christa and Omid. It seems really pointless to build up those two characters just to leave them out of the next season.

    Unless the next season is her trying to find them....
  • edited March 2013
    stevean2 wrote: »
    No. Cause its Canon to the comics, noone in the comics met clementine yet, except Lilly, and thats it.

    TV series crossover will never happen for obvious reasons.
    Glen and Hershel met Clementine in episode 1. The Lilly in the game isn't the same Lilly in the comics. Kirkman confirmed that in the back of one of the comics this year.
  • edited March 2013
    dee23 wrote: »
    Glen and Hershel met Clementine in episode 1. The Lilly in the game isn't the same Lilly in the comics. Kirkman confirmed that in the back of one of the comics this year.

    Her character was created solely to be that same person though, so for all intents and purposes she should remain so(also why i doubt she will ever appear again, so they don't have to change her original story).


    As for Clem, i believe it was nighttime or sunset when Lee passed out, wasn't it? If so, then that is a huge amount of time between the ending and the epilogue, plenty for her to go to the train, see that it's swarming with thousands of walkers, think it over and decide it's best to leave the city.
  • edited March 2013
    wasn't there a choice to tell clem where to go? like..

    the train, the coast/boat, find christa n omid...
  • edited March 2013
    El morbo, él pudo morbo es igual que el comic todos mueren hay desgracias por todos lados, ya se sabe lo que va pasar solo es para tenerte al pendiente, acuérdate que dijeron que la segunda temporada va ser diferente, tal vez ya ni salga Clementine, es como el comic los personajes desaparecen y regresan muertos ya no tiene chiste, es un residente evil.
  • edited March 2013
    El morbo, él pudo morbo es igual que el comic todos mueren hay desgracias por todos lados, ya se sabe lo que va pasar solo es para tenerte al pendiente, acuérdate que dijeron que la segunda temporada va ser diferente, tal vez ya ni salga Clementine, es como el comic los personajes desaparecen y regresan muertos ya no tiene chiste, es un residente evil.

    "The disease, he may like the curiosity is all die comic misfortunes there everywhere, you know what is going to happen just to get you to the slopes, remember who said that the second season will be different, perhaps longer or leave Clementine it's like the comic characters disappear and return no joke dead and is a resident evil."
  • edited March 2013
    To be really honest...

    I would kind of prefer not playing with the same characters in Season 2.

    I like these open endings. My cousin thinks the ending of No Country For Old Men was really stupid and that it ruined the movie. I think it was genius and I love the mystery! One of my favourites mostly because of that.

    I agree, friend.
  • edited March 2013
    Some-one had an idea (I think it was from the confessions blog thingy) that the 2 figures might be Kenny and Molly..I'm sticking to it,but I know it isn't really possible :)
    .. :(
    And I don't really care who these two are,until they aren't bad..I'm so worried about Clem-Clem :/
  • edited March 2013
    I think the ending was good and all, but I got waaaay too attached to Clementine. So it sort of broke my heart and left me wanting to know what happens to her. And as much as I'd like to see all new characters in the next season, it would kill me not knowing what happens to her.
  • edited March 2013
    Clem didn't listen to Lee. I hope she gets killed, for she messed up his last wish!
  • edited March 2013
    Assuming Lee's alive is ridiculous :P He's been confirmed dead by TTG. Also, even if you don't have Clem shoot Lee, he is still dying and turning into a zombie.
    Before all of that, we're shown a scene of the train, completely swarmed by walkers. They don't move quickly and they tend to stick around one area when they run out of muster. I think it's safe to assume that the train was still swarmed (or that the swarm from the train blocked her from returning).

    Personally I loved the ending. Plans didn't work out the way they were supposed to, Clem is alone and somewhere we don't recognize, and she's having to make the tough choice - does she trust the figures in the distance or not? You can tell she's contemplating that when the screen goes black.

    It opens up for Season 2 perfectly.

    From this ending, I'm assuming we'll be playing with at least 2 new characters (I don't believe they're zombies, as they usually are loners or in a horde), that we'll at least see Clem once, and that the story will continue from a new POV. How did these other two people come to be walking through the same field? I find it very intriguing!

    I'm hoping that S2 is the story of those two people, their struggle, and that it ends with the two of them (you and whoever you choose to save) walking through a field and spotting a little girl.
  • edited March 2013
    That's the point of games that are going to be continued, to leave you wanting more.
  • edited March 2013
    Why are many people so desperate for closure. I love these open endings. It really makes you think afterwards. You leave on an emotional note, for once, the hero does not win in the end.

    Since Lee is more than likely gone, i hope season 2 has an all new cast, with Clementine somehow getting involved in that.

    I cannot decide if i wanna see Omid and Christa return. As funny and interesting of a character as Omid is, as boring and forced does him and Christa seem overall. It's like they just turn up out of the blue to fill the shoes of fallen companions.

    Oh well, i am confident TTG will give us an awesome story arc.

    Cant wait.
  • edited March 2013
    roroown wrote: »
    First, let me say that assuming Lee's death in the end was ridiculous.

    Your right. In a world were getting bitten by zombies = death, a person being bitten by a zombie means NOTHING!

    Also the devs have already stated he died.
  • edited March 2013
    Clem was already in the countryside so this is probably not right after lee's death, some time must have passed. Maybe she has already been at the train and found Omid and Christa... but we can only guess.
  • edited April 2013
    Why do people keep saying that she didn't follow Lee's instructions? It depends on the choice you made. In my game Lee told her to stay away from the cities, which is precisely what being out in the country is doing. Even if I told her to, say, go to the train, for all anyone knows she could have done exactly that but then left for a number of reasons.
  • edited April 2013
    saladdays wrote: »
    Even if I told her to, say, go to the train, for all anyone knows she could have done exactly that but then left for a number of reasons.

    That's the problem. People assume that the epilogue scene takes place immediately after Clem shoots/leaves Lee, which is highly unlikely.
  • edited April 2013
    Mornai wrote: »
    That's the problem. People assume that the epilogue scene takes place immediately after Clem shoots/leaves Lee, which is highly unlikely.

    Clem leaving Savannah -> dusk/night
    Clem looking at the 2 persons -> dawn
    so i agree ^^
  • edited April 2013
    My theory is, that she did as you said, whether it was "find a boat", "go to the train", "look for Omid and Christa on the roofs" or anything, and she probably found them, then something happened, that either killed them or seperated her from them, which caused her to leave Savannah / the train. And I personally draw the conclusion, that we'll get to play those happenings in the "bonus", which hopefully comes soon. There we'll see about the remaining characters, and about how Clem tries to cope with her loss, eventually she is forced to leave everything behind and to move on, to start over from scratch, as she sees 2 figures in the distance, BAM "bonus" or "Episode 6" ends, we see the same teaser, we saw after the credits of EP 5, or even a little preview/trailer to S2.

    Nothing of that is official or anything, just me imagining how they could continue her story, without implementing stupid flashbacks, that'd show what happened between S1 and 2, and thinking about what that "bonus" could be.
  • edited April 2013
    blunicorn wrote: »
    I think the ending was good and all, but I got waaaay too attached to Clementine. So it sort of broke my heart and left me wanting to know what happens to her. And as much as I'd like to see all new characters in the next season, it would kill me not knowing what happens to her.

    Then the writers did their job brilliantly. Every game or film who wants you to care about a character wishes it could like they did with Clem. And the ending? It makes you want to buy S2 on its release date, right?
  • edited April 2013
    ZeroShoot wrote: »
    My theory is, that she did as you said, whether it was "find a boat", "go to the train", "look for Omid and Christa on the roofs" or anything, and she probably found them, then something happened, that either killed them or seperated her from them, which caused her to leave Savannah / the train. And I personally draw the conclusion, that we'll get to play those happenings in the "bonus", which hopefully comes soon. There we'll see about the remaining characters, and about how Clem tries to cope with her loss, eventually she is forced to leave everything behind and to move on, to start over from scratch, as she sees 2 figures in the distance, BAM "bonus" or "Episode 6" ends, we see the same teaser, we saw after the credits of EP 5, or even a little preview/trailer to S2.

    that'd be great
  • edited April 2013
    crispy01 wrote: »
    Then the writers did their job brilliantly. Every game or film who wants you to care about a character wishes it could like they did with Clem. And the ending? It makes you want to buy S2 on its release date, right?

    No. I would never want such a thing... I want it RIGHT NOW :D
  • edited April 2013
    Mark$man wrote: »
    No. I would never want such a thing... I want it RIGHT NOW :D

    Balls to the release date, get the alpha version right now! But yeah, not sure why people like this game when it makes them depressed. I mean, I love it, but it made me super sad for 2 weeks.
  • edited April 2013
    It was about a month to me, simply because I was hooked to the music :P Not good to keep doing what makes you sad, but hey, it was that good. And it's because that is what games are aimed to be; realistic, heart-wrenching, exciting, etc. It's supposed to cause some kind of emotion; otherwise it isn't doing a good job. Who would play a video game if it was boring and no surprises, no excitement? Just... kill... kill... kill. It might be fun for awhile... but I think it would get boring really fast. I enjoyed this game just as I enjoyed Heavy Rain; I like games that can really cause some emotion, even if anger at the game itself xD
  • edited April 2013
    Mark$man wrote: »
    It was about a month to me, simply because I was hooked to the music :P...

    Oh, I know that feeling. Every time I hear the music, especially the ending credits song or "Alive Inside" I get a strong urge to curl up, which is very awkward when it is my favourite College Work music.
  • edited April 2013
    lol true. It really helps to concentrate.
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