The new poster for the Indiana Jones movie titled Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull is out. It is done by Drew Struzan who was responsible for the original movie posters.
Man I am really slow. Eh whatever. I love Indiana Jones and this gives me an excuse to add to my post count. I have to have one of the lowest post counts in the office. It is embarrassing.
I'm not a big Indy fan, but I love how the poster doesn't look like the vast majority do nowadays. It looks like an honest-to-deity 80's film poster, which makes me a very happy panda.
I hope not, it was bad enough when my beloved horror films started using that cookie-cutter "photo of antagonist surrounded by photos of protagonists sorted by level of Hollywood fame" poster design.
To do something like that to a series like this is pure movie geek heresy.
I'm sure we'll get a more collagey Indy poster in the coming months, but the old films had posters like that as well. They (in this case, the LucasFilm marketing department) knows what they're doing.
The pressure making this film must be incredible. Even if it would be perfect, I'm not sure it would be good enough to fill the expectations. I really do hope the best for this flick, though I'm not sure if Indy's time of glory has passed. Will people still be interested?
I really do hope the best for this flick, though I'm not sure if Indy's time of glory has passed. Will people still be interested?
I have a feeling that no matter how good it is, it will be lambasted. It could be something as trivial as Indy's fedora being tilted too far to the left, as long as the die-hards have something to nitpick at, hoo boy will they pick those nits.
When you're pushed, lambasting is as easy as breathing.
Talking about sequels, just two months until Mr. Rambo is back. I was so astounded by the quality of Rocky Balboa that I'm really looking forward to it.
Talking about sequels, just two months until Mr. Rambo is back.
I'm sorry, but when I saw the poster for the Rambo movie surrounded by drooling fans, I had to scream RAMBO SUCKS RAMBO SUCKS RAMBO SUCKS!!! I can't stand the Rambo movies :mad:
Indiana Jones is great though
Only problem I have is, isn't Harrison Ford a little bit old to be playing him now?
Oh well, we'll just have to wait and see how it turns out..
Only problem I have is, isn't Harrison Ford a little bit old to be playing him now?
That's a very common (and mind you, one of the stupidest) points of criticism towards the new movie. Why would he be too old? It's not like he's still playing a 35 year old Indy :rolleyes:
That's a very common (and mind you, one of the stupidest) points of criticism towards the new movie. Why would he be too old? It's not like he's still playing a 35 year old Indy :rolleyes:
I know that; but I mean more in terms for the actor. I would be pissed if a cool stunt came up, and he turned into CG because the actor wasn't willing to do the scene. And I'm not saying that his age means the movie is going to be bad, in fact, I'm if anything, very glad that Harrison is still playing Indy, since he's really the only person who could play the character.
I think it's *mostly* practical effects - stunts or models - as per the originals. But there's probably a bit of CG here and there where in the originals they would have done the "draw onto film cells" technique. You know, for things like making explosions bigger, or all the supernatural ghosty-stuff. That'd be CG.
But I'm sure most of the stunt work will be practical It's so much cooler that way.
Supposedly the new Indy is all practical effects though.
That is good. One of my other fears was that Lucas would give it the starwars treatment and make all the stunts and effects CG. The practical effects might also mean it won't end up like Temple of Doom; I know Temple of Doom wasn't chock full of silly effects, but it's plot was WAY too silly, and the overusage of CG in this day and age could lead to another 'Temple of Doom' style Indy movie. I think that 'Crystal Skull' will probably be good though.
I wouldn't worry about Harrison Ford's ability as an action star for this film after seeing Firewall. That movie was pretty bad, but the man can still run around and throw punches. He can even climb a scaffolding better than I can probably.
Based on things I've read elsewhere, it seems some people have been using that "practical effects" quote to pretend that Indy4 will not use modern film making techniques at all and will instead be filmed with a hand-cranked camera and will have Harrison Ford thrown off cliffs and actually shot at with poisonous darts. (He's a method actor!) Molokov's probably hit the nail on the head; I think all Frank Marshall meant when he said what he did was that they would try to use stuntwork as much as possible. I'm willing to bet a dollar that we will see CGI/bluescreen to some extent.
I'm hoping for the return of matte paintings also.
You mean like, the old school way of doing them where they actually used an optical printer? That would be neat but I highly doubt it. If there are any matte paintings in Indy4 I'm sure they will be digital.
The important part was probably whether or not there was an actual painting, instead of a 3D set, or digitally augmented photo, more than whether or not the effect was achieved optically or digitally!
So, would it be special then for Indy 4 to have matte paintings? I was under the impression that they were still very common, and it was only the technique for producing them that's different. Or I'm lying.
whether or not there was an actual painting, instead of a 3D set, or digitally augmented photo
But that's just the modern way to do matte paintings, and I'm sure if they had digital technology back then, and the possibility to incorporate photographed content, they would've done it as well. I don't see the reason for a pure painting (be it digitally or with actual paint), if it can be enhanced through photos, 3D-animation or some other technique. The important part is that they shouldn't do digital effects and matte paintings just for the sake of it (as Lucas did it SO MANY times in the prequels... Clone Troopers, anybody?), but only when budget, safety or pure logistics ask for it. And the Indy-movies have rarely shown something, that couldn't (and hadn't!) been done practically.
I really wouldn't mind a beautiful all-digital matte, just as long as the camera doesn't impossibly weave in and out of trees just to show off how digital it really is.
There's still an aesthetic difference between a shot composited into a 3d environment and a scene composited into a painting, regardless of whether or not it was done digitally or purely optically.
traditionally they were paintings on glass that were overlaid on the image to replace out part of the background with something else. A few notable examples are the end of 'raiders of the lost ark' (the warehouse of crates), or every city shot in Mary Poppins. Also used to make it look like the Monterey Bay Aquarium was near SF in Star Trek IV
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To do something like that to a series like this is pure movie geek heresy.
I'm sure we'll get a more collagey Indy poster in the coming months, but the old films had posters like that as well. They (in this case, the LucasFilm marketing department) knows what they're doing.
The pressure making this film must be incredible. Even if it would be perfect, I'm not sure it would be good enough to fill the expectations. I really do hope the best for this flick, though I'm not sure if Indy's time of glory has passed. Will people still be interested?
I have a feeling that no matter how good it is, it will be lambasted. It could be something as trivial as Indy's fedora being tilted too far to the left, as long as the die-hards have something to nitpick at, hoo boy will they pick those nits.
Talking about sequels, just two months until Mr. Rambo is back. I was so astounded by the quality of Rocky Balboa that I'm really looking forward to it.
I'm sorry, but when I saw the poster for the Rambo movie surrounded by drooling fans, I had to scream RAMBO SUCKS RAMBO SUCKS RAMBO SUCKS!!! I can't stand the Rambo movies :mad:
Indiana Jones is great though
Only problem I have is, isn't Harrison Ford a little bit old to be playing him now?
Oh well, we'll just have to wait and see how it turns out..
That's a very common (and mind you, one of the stupidest) points of criticism towards the new movie. Why would he be too old? It's not like he's still playing a 35 year old Indy :rolleyes:
I know that; but I mean more in terms for the actor. I would be pissed if a cool stunt came up, and he turned into CG because the actor wasn't willing to do the scene. And I'm not saying that his age means the movie is going to be bad, in fact, I'm if anything, very glad that Harrison is still playing Indy, since he's really the only person who could play the character.
That's so 20th century.
But I'm sure most of the stunt work will be practical It's so much cooler that way.
That is good. One of my other fears was that Lucas would give it the starwars treatment and make all the stunts and effects CG. The practical effects might also mean it won't end up like Temple of Doom; I know Temple of Doom wasn't chock full of silly effects, but it's plot was WAY too silly, and the overusage of CG in this day and age could lead to another 'Temple of Doom' style Indy movie. I think that 'Crystal Skull' will probably be good though.
Here's to hoping they use real stuntmen as well
Marco might know.
Oh man... I read that as "...the new Indy is all PARTICLE effects..."! I was very confused over the next several responses.
You mean like, the old school way of doing them where they actually used an optical printer? That would be neat but I highly doubt it. If there are any matte paintings in Indy4 I'm sure they will be digital.
But that's just the modern way to do matte paintings, and I'm sure if they had digital technology back then, and the possibility to incorporate photographed content, they would've done it as well. I don't see the reason for a pure painting (be it digitally or with actual paint), if it can be enhanced through photos, 3D-animation or some other technique. The important part is that they shouldn't do digital effects and matte paintings just for the sake of it (as Lucas did it SO MANY times in the prequels... Clone Troopers, anybody?), but only when budget, safety or pure logistics ask for it. And the Indy-movies have rarely shown something, that couldn't (and hadn't!) been done practically.
--Erwin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matte_painting