Kenny.

edited December 2012 in The Walking Dead
So, what did you guys think about him and his 'death'?

I say I really liked Kenny as a character. He had his ups and downs, and wasn't a gary-stu in the slightest. I also had good times laughing at him, like when Larry knocked him out and he got jumped by old cancer survivors. He also shared my distaste for Ben, but maybe he went a little overboard with it. His nicknames for Ben also made me laugh, and his plans were actually good.

But his 'death'.

I didn't really like how he said "I'm a Christian man." "Try to go as long as you can." Blah blah, and then practically suicides for a obviously dead Ben. I mean, that had some faults there. But I really think the Christa 'death' scene makes more sense; he would have more chances of surviving, and he couldn't get out, unlike the Ben scenario.

What do you think?

Comments

  • edited November 2012
    Kenny lives in Ben scenario. He's an important character in TWD and if he had died TTG would have showed us his death clearly.
  • edited November 2012
    You don't know that. It'd be extremely hard to get out of that case, as he was surrounded by both sides. I don't remember seeing a manhole, and I swore I could hear muffled screaming.
  • edited November 2012
    I dropped Ben in my canon save, so I got the Christa scene. Kenny was a great character, and in my game he was my best friend. I think he managed to relate to Ben after Ben told him about his own family and that at least Kenny had one to lose. Seeing the suicide couple reminded him of Kat and all the nights she told him to think of others more, so he decided to try and save Ben, but he locked Lee in the gate so Lee would still be able to save Clem if Kenny wasn't able to hold off the walkers. When he realized there was no way he could save Ben, he mercy killed him so he wouldn't have to go through any more pain. It was his way of trying to make things right and also make Kat proud of him.

    That being said, I still like the Christa scene more. Especially when I picked the "Go back for him" option and Omid literally had to hold my Lee back from going down there.
  • edited November 2012
    Kenny was my friend. :(
    Torby wrote: »
    Kenny lives in Ben scenario. He's an important character in TWD and if he had died TTG would have showed us his death clearly.
    He clearly gets bitten on the arm. We should just thank TellTale for not making us watch Kenny get eaten alive. It's a matter of taste, for his heroic ending.
  • edited November 2012
    Rock114 wrote: »
    I dropped Ben in my canon save, so I got the Christa scene. Kenny was a great character, and in my game he was my best friend. I think he managed to relate to Ben after Ben told him about his own family and that at least Kenny had one to lose. Seeing the suicide couple reminded him of Kat and all the nights she told him to think of others more, so he decided to try and save Ben, but he locked Lee in the gate so Lee would still be able to save Clem if Kenny wasn't able to hold off the walkers. When he realized there was no way he could save Ben, he mercy killed him so he wouldn't have to go through any more pain. It was his way of trying to make things right and also make Kat proud of him.

    That being said, I still like the Christa scene more. Especially when I picked the "Go back for him" option and Omid literally had to hold my Lee back from going down there.

    Haha! I also heard if you save a bullet in the scene where you're going up into the attic, you can give him it and he'll shoot himself after shooting Ben.
  • edited November 2012
    That'd be hard for me if it were true. Giving my best friend a bullet and saying "Kill yourself in a few mintues", while hilarious, would probably end with him using it on me.
  • edited November 2012
    Dildor wrote: »
    Kenny was my friend. :(


    He clearly gets bitten on the arm. We should just thank TellTale for not making us watch Kenny get eaten alive. It's a matter of taste, for his heroic ending.

    Kenny was my Lee's friend, too.

    Maybe, as the sleeve was never torn.
  • edited November 2012
    Rock114 wrote: »
    That'd be hard for me if it were true. Giving my best friend a bullet and saying "Kill yourself in a few mintues", while hilarious, would probably end with him using it on me.


    Haha!~
  • edited November 2012
    hawkfire20 wrote: »
    You don't know that. It'd be extremely hard to get out of that case, as he was surrounded by both sides. I don't remember seeing a manhole, and I swore I could hear muffled screaming.

    Iff you were being torn apart alive 5 feet away from me I don't think the screaming wouldn be muffled. Besides, he runs off screen and when you look from above they aren't eating and there are no walkers at the end of the alley. He clearly runs off screen as well.
  • edited November 2012
    hawkfire20 wrote: »
    Kenny was my Lee's friend, too.

    Maybe, as the sleeve was never torn.

    No blood, no marks, and not even the sleeve ripped. Sounds like a bite to me.:rolleyes:
  • edited November 2012
    Pickles312 wrote: »
    Iff you were being torn apart alive 5 feet away from me I don't think the screaming wouldn be muffled. Besides, he runs off screen and when you look from above they aren't eating and there are no walkers at the end of the alley. He clearly runs off screen as well.

    The screaming could be muffled from the walkers dogpiling him, maybe? :p
  • edited November 2012
    Pickles312 wrote: »
    No blood, no marks, and not even the sleeve ripped. Sounds like a bite to me.:rolleyes:

    Deffie. :rolleyes:
  • edited November 2012
    hawkfire20 wrote: »
    The screaming could be muffled from the walkers dogpiling him, maybe? :p

    Then how come they weren't when you looked down on them?
  • edited November 2012
    Pickles312 wrote: »
    Then how come they weren't when you looked down on them?

    Maybe there were some ontop of him, but there were so many walkers all you could see were the ones standing up?

    And it could also be a mistake on the artist's part \n/
  • edited November 2012
    Nah, he's good. His 'stache will morph into a beautiful beard in Season 2.
  • edited November 2012
    FAVREFAN wrote: »
    Nah, he's good. His 'stache will morph into a beautiful beard in Season 2.

    casually tries to breathe.
  • edited November 2012
    My version of Lee did often back up Kenny and agreed with him about family but I didn't help him to kill Larry. I ended Ducks life for him as no father should have to go through killing his own son especially after watching his wife take her life.

    Kenny for me was a good character, he was pretty selfish at times but not a bad guy really. The scene with Ben standing up to Kenny after being getting insulted by him and harrassed constantly did help a bit in making Kenny seem less like an idiot for just blaming Ben without consideration for what Ben might have been through. His final scene where he stays behind to stop Ben from turning striked me as odd, if he wanted to end Bens suffering he could have easily shot him from the ladder Lee used to get back onto the roof and then just closed the gate and went on with the rest of the group to find Clem. Especially after him saying you shouldn't just give up and to keep fighting on.
  • edited November 2012
    CalDW19940 wrote: »
    My version of Lee did often back up Kenny and agreed with him about family but I didn't help him to kill Larry. I ended Ducks life for him as no father should have to go through killing his own son especially after watching his wife take her life.

    Kenny for me was a good character, he was pretty selfish at times but not a bad guy really. The scene with Ben standing up to Kenny after being getting insulted by him and harrassed constantly did help a bit in making Kenny seem less like an idiot for just blaming Ben without consideration for what Ben might have been through. His final scene where he stays behind to stop Ben from turning striked me as odd, if he wanted to end Bens suffering he could have easily shot him from the ladder Lee used to get back onto the roof and then just closed the gate and went on with the rest of the group to find Clem. Especially after him saying you shouldn't just give up and to keep fighting on.

    I agree. Kenny could've just as easily shot Ben in the head and say pow then climb the ladder with Lee.

    I guess it was TTG's redemption scene for him.
  • edited November 2012
    I agree. Kenny could've just as easily shot Ben in the head and say pow then climb the ladder with Lee.

    I guess it was TTG's redemption scene for him.

    Yeah seems like that's what they were going for though it just kinda conflicted with his character because of his whole "family matters" mindset, not giving in by suicide, friendship with Lee depending on player actions and trying to find Clem after taking care of her so long with the rest of the group and knowing Lee was going to die soon.

    Felt like a bit of a rushed and pointless death. I heard if Ben dies in episode 4 he dies by having to lift Christa up from a hole in the roof by giving her a boost up then just getting killed by the walkers inside the room. That to me doesn't conflict with his character at all and it was a death that happened because he had no options for escape or fighting back but in Ben's final scene he could have.
  • edited November 2012
    CalDW19940 wrote: »
    Yeah seems like that's what they were going for though it just kinda conflicted with his character because of his whole "family matters" mindset, not giving in by suicide, friendship with Lee depending on player actions and trying to find Clem after taking care of her so long with the rest of the group and knowing Lee was going to die soon.

    Felt like a bit of a rushed and pointless death. I heard if Ben dies in episode 4 he dies by having to lift Christa up from a hole in the roof by giving her a boost up then just getting killed by the walkers inside the room. That to me doesn't conflict with his character at all and it was a death that happened because he had no options for escape or fighting back but in Ben's final scene he could have.

    Yes, if you kill Ben then Kenny bumps into Lee and the walkie falls into the hole. Then Christa becomes a bitch and jumps down after it before Lee can say anything and gives the walkie back but can't get out of the hole, and walkers start to come from the noise. Kenny gets pissed off and jumps in and helps her up, but cannot get back up himself and is trapped by walkers.

    That death was mainly Christa being retarded.
  • edited November 2012
    Yes, if you kill Ben then Kenny bumps into Lee and the walkie falls into the hole. Then Christa becomes a bitch and jumps down after it before Lee can say anything and gives the walkie back but can't get out of the hole, and walkers start to come from the noise. Kenny gets pissed off and jumps in and helps her up, but cannot get back up himself and is trapped by walkers.

    That death was mainly Christa being retarded.

    Haha, yes the pregnant women jumps in over the guy who's about to die from the bite :L
  • edited November 2012
    CalDW19940 wrote: »
    Haha, yes the pregnant women jumps in over the guy who's about to die from the bite :L

    Exactly.

    What does Omid see in her? D:
  • edited November 2012
    Remember that Irene was Christian too and did not oppose suicide. Kenny was a great character. He was more developed than Lilly, which I felt was the one character that had evolution throughout the series. Kenny died a hero, which I felt was great.
  • edited November 2012
    Irene was Christian? Hmm. I didn't know that.
  • edited November 2012
    I liked the Ben death

    It was him finally forgiving Ben

    I told him to leave

    I refused to leave

    He saw it s either a chance to die or a chance to be a hero
  • edited November 2012
    Ben's & Kenny's deaths were the only time I full out cried in the game.
  • edited November 2012
    Pointless and stupid death. A waste of man power... but well it perfectly suits Kenny... doing moronic stuff I won't even think about.

    Kenny is a great character, amazing in fact. I hated his personality however. I love what Telltale did with him, but I just hate the guy.
    He even dare to mention Lilly... that bastard.

    His Christa death scene is way better... at least there is some purpose in his death. In Ben's scene he's like doing the exact opposite of what he said we should do 5 minutes ago. Kinda of hypocritical.

    "Don't give up, Katjaa shouldn't have given up... she left me bla bla bla "
    *5 mins later stays to fight off hordes of walkers for an already dead Ben.
  • edited November 2012
    After Kenny's speech about suicide, I thought his death was extremely stupid. It basically amounted to suicide, and a pointless one at that. Ben was already obviously done for. So why did Kenny need to hang back just to put him out of his misery? In the time it took for Kenny and Lee to exchange dialogue, either one could have shot Ben and they both could have been up the ladder before the walkers were anywhere near them.

    I liked Kenny's character arc a lot, even though I spent a significant chunk of the game thinking he was an enormous asshole. So it was really disappointing that his death was so lame.
  • edited December 2012
    I think that the Ben scene is more badass, but the Christa scene makes more sense.
  • edited December 2012
    YamiRaziel wrote: »
    Pointless and stupid death. A waste of man power... but well it perfectly suits Kenny... doing moronic stuff I won't even think about.

    Kenny is a great character, amazing in fact. I hated his personality however. I love what Telltale did with him, but I just hate the guy.
    He even dare to mention Lilly... that bastard.

    His Christa death scene is way better... at least there is some purpose in his death. In Ben's scene he's like doing the exact opposite of what he said we should do 5 minutes ago. Kinda of hypocritical.

    "Don't give up, Katjaa shouldn't have given up... she left me bla bla bla "
    *5 mins later stays to fight off hordes of walkers for an already dead Ben.


    I agree. Just that I liked Kenny, haha.
  • edited December 2012
    I think it might depend on what you do. The first time I played I didn't have Ben so it's likely he didn't survive jumping down to save Christa (I really wish they'd have given the option to leave her to die...stupid)...the second time I had Ben but I had no bullets and it seemed pretty clear that he died trying to help Ben. The third time I made sure not to use any of my bullets in the house and gave them all to him and it kind of seemed like he shot Ben and then ran off. I really hope he made it.
  • edited December 2012
    donaruie wrote: »
    I think it might depend on what you do. The first time I played I didn't have Ben so it's likely he didn't survive jumping down to save Christa (I really wish they'd have given the option to leave her to die...stupid)...the second time I had Ben but I had no bullets and it seemed pretty clear that he died trying to help Ben. The third time I made sure not to use any of my bullets in the house and gave them all to him and it kind of seemed like he shot Ben and then ran off. I really hope he made it.


    The third scenario makes it seem like he'd survive.
  • edited December 2012
    The third scenario makes it seem like he'd survive.

    That's what I'm hoping. Why would he ask for all my bullets if he was just planning on killing himself via walker? It seemed more like a "I need to help Ben but I want to be able to walk away from it after."
  • edited December 2012
    donaruie wrote: »
    That's what I'm hoping. Why would he ask for all my bullets if he was just planning on killing himself via walker? It seemed more like a "I need to help Ben but I want to be able to walk away from it after."

    An even BETTER way would be to shoot Ben while climbing up the ladder.
  • edited December 2012
    An even BETTER way would be to shoot Ben while climbing up the ladder.

    Pretty much yeah...if he is alive then it's just supposed to be a suspenseful situation and Telltale doesn't want us to know for sure until they tell us...but no it doesn't really make sense for him to stay behind just to kill Ben.
  • edited December 2012
    donaruie wrote: »
    Pretty much yeah...if he is alive then it's just supposed to be a suspenseful situation and Telltale doesn't want us to know for sure until they tell us...but no it doesn't really make sense for him to stay behind just to kill Ben.

    Maybe he thought the zombies would think of him as a better snack then Ben since he has more meat on his bones? :p
  • edited December 2012
    RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH! He must live! He Is ... He's My bro.. Fuuuck... ARGH!
  • edited December 2012
    Bro's unite!
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