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My (Unpopular) Season 2 Hope

FraQFraQ
edited November 2012 in The Walking Dead
I posted a long, well thought out post and then hit submit. Nothing happened and my entire post was deleted. :mad:

Now you get this:

I want a new cast for Season 2. New protagonist, new group, new locations.

Keep the series fresh.

I love the old characters (one especially) and I do eventually hope to see them crop up again. (Maybe as a cameo, or a someone who joins the new group at some point)

The ideal thing (IMO) would be to run 3-4 seasons with new protagonists and new groups of characters each season. Then in the final season have all the survivors from each group meet up and we conclude their stories at once in a truly epic finale season.

Or maybe not. Honestly I'm very happy with the ending we received. It was heartbreaking and at the same time left you with a little hope. It also allows you to think whatever you want to think about what happens next. Which are the best kind of endings (again IMO).

So Thanks again Telltale for an awesome adventure and I cannot wait for Season 2!

Comments

  • Sox&Rocks22Sox&Rocks22
    edited November 2012
    Yeah I think Season 2 should be a new cast as well. My concerns are that sticking with or playing as Clem will either turn into a retread of season 1 (someone else looking after Clem) or be far less impactful (as youre playing a child).

    Lets embrace the ambiguity of the ending as an uncertan future for a girl in an unsafe world, nothing more, nothing less. Its also about respecting the players individual stories, what you taught Clem and how she felt about you. Theres no need to condense these lessons into a season 2 plotline. The payoff is what you want it to be. Now most of the time I hate it when shows or movies pull that card but I really think its most applicable here, in this situation.
  • JakeSt123JakeSt123
    edited November 2012
    I want a new group too, so long as it somehow intertwines with series 1, for example the people who are left end up on the hill from the end of Series 1.
  • ViserViser
    edited November 2012
    JabbaDaHuttX7 wrote: »
    It's not that unpopular. It's actually a far better idea than playing as Clem/Molly or Ben's ghost or what-have-you, imo.

    Awww, but Ben's ghost is an amazing idea for a protagonist! Damn, you people just don't get it =///

    Anyway, I don't think your idea is so unpopular, most people want a new cast for season 2. Based on how season 1 ends, my guess is that the new group would find Clementine. But yeah, keeping things fresh - especially with Clem back - would prove a bit challenging, but I think that Telltale can pull it off =P
  • CarScarCarScar
    edited November 2012
    I would actually love seeing new people. One thing I really like in The Walking Dead game is that you see a new cast, a glimpse of what other people are dealing with outside of Rick Grimes. I wish that's what they did with the TV series, make a new cast instead of just loosely following Rick's story. Maybe then it would be canon.

    One thing I would be extremely pissed about is if Clem isn't in season 2. I want to see how she developed after Lee's last words to her. Yeah yeah she can appear in like season 4 or something but I don't want to wait that long to see Clem. I want a merging of the old cast and a new cast. Omid / Christa, Molly, and Clem join a new group and you play as one of the characters in the new group.
  • cheeto1621cheeto1621
    edited November 2012
    i want clemintine to continue off from exactly were she was!!
  • Shrewsbury SurvivorShrewsbury Survivor
    edited November 2012
    How about the 20 year old. We can have less a fatherly and more.... Brotherish role.
  • HiggsBoson2142HiggsBoson2142
    edited November 2012
    I like the idea of all the remaining survivors coming together in a final season. Here's my idea: There will be four groups. We've seen the story of one, and there were three survivors (Four if you include Molly). There can be other seasons too, but I think in at least one of them there should be a binding. It's kind of hard to explain.

    Season 1: Lee and Clem's story.
    Season 2: New characters story
    Season 3: New character's story; survivors from Season 2/1 join.
    Season 4: New character's story
    Season 5: All characters come together in a finale season with more than just 5 episodes

    Seems pretty unreal, though. "You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
  • DreadMagusDreadMagus
    edited November 2012
    Not a new idea, OP, so don't think it's unpopular. ;)
  • livezombie72livezombie72
    edited November 2012
    Having played and enjoyed Season 1...and after watching the Playing Dead video of E4, I've learnt not to become too attached to any of the characters in the game. Which of course inevitably happens. I didn't like seeing Lee's end, didn't like after fighting for Ben since E3 that he died at the end anyway (lol) What makes the most sense to me is that in season 2...probably between E2-E4, Telltale would be twisted enough to kill off Clem.

    At first I was hopeful to play Lee for at least one more season, but I do see the appeal of a new survivor. I can also see them starting with Omid and Christa when they get seperated near the hotel. Did they make it to the train or search for another boat or just simply make it off the rooftop? (depending on the player's choice) Or will we simply see them as zombies at some point of S2? Some kind of closure on that scenario would be nice.

    For me because you really don't know what happens to them, that would be the logical choice to start the season. Only TTG knows for sure, but if they used the lost couple, I think it would be kind of cool to jump between control over them. Say start E1 as Christa, then either halfway through that or the start of E2, hand over control to Omid. Would give you 2 different perspectives from each character.
  • MercMerc
    edited November 2012
    I really see it playing out with multiple characters.

    Episode 1 would be you controlling Kenny as he escorts Clem out of Savannah. 2 would put you in Clem's shoes as you wander those fields, trying to track down Omid and Christa. And so on and so on.

    It'd be pretty neat if they could pull a multi character thing off--your choices would effect their personality and everything.

    It's a long shot, but man... that'd be so cool.
  • FISHY1254FISHY1254
    edited November 2012
    As much as new characters sounds amazing. Just think about how the game ended. When you made them final decisions it said "They'll remember that." or "Clementine will remember that." So we're going to start off the new season as Clementine walking to the 2 people at the end of S1 EP 5. I know that the 2 is Omid and Christa just for the fact that the shorter one on the left was limping (Omid's leg is hurt bad and infected so he's been limping) and the other one was walking fine and taller. So it will be Clem meets up with Omid and Christa then possibly find a new group and you play as Clem. Or we can go down the road a few years later when Clem is 15-16 years old and her Omid and Christa are working together with a new group.
  • HiggsBoson2142HiggsBoson2142
    edited November 2012
    Dear god, the only thing I absolutely don't want is playing as a character we've already met.
  • HiggsBoson2142HiggsBoson2142
    edited November 2012
    livezombie72 wrote: »
    What makes the most sense to me is that in season 2...probably between E2-E4, Telltale would be twisted enough to kill off Clem.

    I kind of makes sense. I mean, Duck, Ben (For some), and
    Lori
    even if nobody liked her.
  • Dead WatcherDead Watcher
    edited November 2012
    FraQ wrote: »
    I posted a long, well thought out post and then hit submit. Nothing happened and my entire post was deleted. :mad:

    Now you get this:

    I want a new cast for Season 2. New protagonist, new group, new locations.

    Keep the series fresh.

    I love the old characters (one especially) and I do eventually hope to see them crop up again. (Maybe as a cameo, or a someone who joins the new group at some point)

    The ideal thing (IMO) would be to run 3-4 seasons with new protagonists and new groups of characters each season. Then in the final season have all the survivors from each group meet up and we conclude their stories at once in a truly epic finale season.

    Or maybe not. Honestly I'm very happy with the ending we received. It was heartbreaking and at the same time left you with a little hope. It also allows you to think whatever you want to think about what happens next. Which are the best kind of endings (again IMO).

    So Thanks again Telltale for an awesome adventure and I cannot wait for Season 2!

    Why would you want to hit the reset button? And how would you reconcile the ending for season 1?
  • ZeruisZeruis
    edited November 2012
    This isn't an unpopular opinion...many people actually want a new group. I want to control either Christa or Omid and have Clem be in the group. She influenced some of my decisions.

    Without Clem in the group, I'm afraid I'm going to become a douche in season 2.
  • YamiRazielYamiRaziel
    edited November 2012
    HiggsBoson2142 wrote: »
    I like the idea of all the remaining survivors coming together in a final season. Here's my idea: There will be four groups. We've seen the story of one, and there were three survivors (Four if you include Molly). There can be other seasons too, but I think in at least one of them there should be a binding. It's kind of hard to explain.

    Season 1: Lee and Clem's story.
    Season 2: New characters story
    Season 3: New character's story; survivors from Season 2/1 join.
    Season 4: New character's story
    Season 5: All characters come together in a finale season with more than just 5 episodes

    Seems pretty unreal, though. "You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."

    5 survivors - Clem, Omid, Christa, Molly and Lilly :p
    I want an entirely new group... I don't want to be reminded of season one, because you know in season one we are DEAD.
    If any of us meets Clem, Omid, Christa, Molly or Lilly, we would probably treat them the way Lee did... and that's not realistic at all. I doubt any of you Lilly haters would forgive her and act as if you don't know what she's done. Would kinda be the same way if we meet Vernon's group.
    So I highly doubt we will meet any one from season one. TWD is not famous for giving fans what they want and I think they would rather leave Clem's fate ambiguous.
  • Kitmit13Kitmit13
    edited November 2012
    I'd like new characters, a new blank template to replace Lee (a bit like how I saw someone on the forums say on how Lee is a blank template with a small backstory so we can craft him into the person we see fit, we need someone with no real backstory, someone we don't know). HOWEVER, I want to have Clem involved at some point and make sure she's safe, the ending after the credits wasn't enough for me. It can be done in many ways:

    1. Maybe we come across her in the game with Omid and Christa (and Christas babby) and stop off there for a cup of tea and a chat before we continue our journey.

    2. The people on the hill weren't Omid and Christa but our new character and a friend, we meet Clem and go from there.

    3. blabla can't think of anything else atm but there are a lot of options
  • WD40WD40
    edited November 2012
    What I think would be interesting would be if you played a new character, with a solid group but then Omid, Christa and Clem wander in, tailed by thousands of Savannah zombies following them.

    This situation, to the character, would make them very angry that some survivors just totally screwed you over, making you leave your nice setup. So this main character you play as now has to try to spur on the 15 or so people that have all set up a nice little community of safety to run like hell because these new survivors arrive, but many don't want to leave, and want to try to stay and defend.

    When the horde reaches their doorstep, the main character, Christa, Omid, and Clem are the only ones to leave. As they run away, they hear gunshots for a while, then screams, then silence, and this character is now left with the people that caused the death of all of his group.

    In this situation, it would be interesting because the players would like the 'newcomers' coming to the camp, but would have to realize that these people that they know and love this new guy (or girl) doesn't, and that Omid, Christa and Clem totally shat on this guy's life accidentally.
  • FraQFraQ
    edited November 2012
    WD40 wrote: »
    What I think would be interesting would be if you played a new character, with a solid group but then Omid, Christa and Clem wander in, tailed by thousands of Savannah zombies following them.

    This situation, to the character, would make them very angry that some survivors just totally screwed you over, making you leave your nice setup. So this main character you play as now has to try to spur on the 15 or so people that have all set up a nice little community of safety to run like hell because these new survivors arrive, but many don't want to leave, and want to try to stay and defend.

    When the horde reaches their doorstep, the main character, Christa, Omid, and Clem are the only ones to leave. As they run away, they hear gunshots for a while, then screams, then silence, and this character is now left with the people that caused the death of all of his group.

    In this situation, it would be interesting because the players would like the 'newcomers' coming to the camp, but would have to realize that these people that they know and love this new guy (or girl) doesn't, and that Omid, Christa and Clem totally shat on this guy's life accidentally.

    See... Everyone is saying that this isn't an unpopular request but then I don't think everybody is fully grasping what I'm asking for.

    Obviously the game will have new characters. Even if we just start up immediately where they left off and we are playing as Clem; (I REALLY hope this isn't the case) It's a no-brainer that that there will be new characters. You can't have 5 episodes of just Omid, Christa, Clem, and possibly Molly.

    I'm asking for a completely different story. All new characters, new protagonist, new setting. Maybe they stumble across the survivors of Season 1 at some point but even better if they don't.

    I honestly feel satisfied with how they ended season 1. In my mind it was a complete story. It was heartbreaking and beautiful and it held true to the themes that The Walking Dead franchise is built upon. I like not knowing what happened to Clem next and I'm not saying I don't want to see her (or Omid, Christa, Molly) again. I do! I loved all those characters!

    Give it a rest though. You can't miss something that is always there. Wait till later in the season, then it makes the reunion all the sweeter.

    Also, if they don't come back. I'm fine with that also. I'm confident that Telltale can give me different characters and that I will love and/or hate just as much as the old. Which I find way more intriguing then the above quoted scenario.

    In that scenario we are just a re-skinned Lee. Stuck with Omid and Christa, taking care of Clementine... It's a story we have already heard. Even if it is an awesome story.
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